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Most Challenging Game #587588
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I'm looking to collect some of the most challenging puzzle games, so any who can suggest some, it would be greatly appreciated. Also I should mention that I'm not looking for games that are challenging due to poor game design, only those with complex puzzles

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: IncognitoSOS] #587589
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Hi IncognitoSOS and welcome to GameBoomers! welcome

Are you asking for recommendations for adventure games with the most challenging puzzles, or for puzzle games with the most challenging puzzles?

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: IncognitoSOS] #587590
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welcome to GameBoomers Incognito!

Are you looking for adventure games or do you mean puzzle games like Safecracker or Azada?

EDIT: Hi Becky! wave

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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #587591
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lol Hi Ana -- thinking and posting alike!

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Becky] #587594
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I've played both and enjoy both, so any suggestions you can make in either genre would be appreciated.

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: IncognitoSOS] #587595
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Puzzle games are handled in Casual forum and adventure games are discussed here. lol


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #587596
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Sorry about that, I was confused by the terms, I mean adventure games, not puzzle games. I was under the impression that puzzle games were simply a adventure game with no story. My mistake.

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: IncognitoSOS] #587601
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These are a few I found challenging:
Schizm
the Myst games
Uru
the Rhem games
Obsidian
Rama
Blue Ice (I haven't played it, but I've heard it's almost impossible to finish)

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: colpet] #587606
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Here are the games I found to be the most challenging for me:

The Experiment
Schizm
Pretty much all the Myst games
Aura2 (The Sacred Rings)

There are a few more can't remember the titles though
lol maybe I will later

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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: marie] #587608
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Adding to what has already been mentioned -- here are the games that ranked up to the number 20 in last year's GB Annual List that I played and thought had the most challenging puzzles.

Grim Fandango
Keepsake
Sherlock Holmes Nemesis
Darkness Within: In Pursuit of Loath Nolder
Riddle of the Sphinx: An Egyptian Adventure
Mysterious Journey 2: Chameleon
Sentinel: Descendants in Time/Realms of Illusion
Yoomurjak's Ring

Note: it's a bit hard to separate games with puzzles that are difficult and fair from games that are difficult because of poor puzzle design -- often examples of both types of puzzles are to be found in the same game. And, frankly, I tend to think the puzzles that are well designed are the ones I work at until I understand, and the ones that are poorly designed are the ones I don't understand on my own. lol Though often other gamers may "get" the ones I don't, and vice versa.

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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Becky] #587638
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Myst
Riven
Myst III: Exile
Uru
Reah
Schizm: Mysterious Journey
Schizm 2 (Mysterious Journey 2)
Sentinel (Realms of Illusion)
RHEM 1, 2, and 3
Alida
Obsidian
Riddle of the Sphinx
Keepsake
Aura (the first one, not so much the second)
RAMA
Safecracker
7th Guest
Shivers
9: The Last Resort
Morpheus
The Arrival
Zork Nemesis

Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Jenny100] #587640
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I agree with a lot of the games mentioned: Keepsake, great game but hard; Obsidian-very different and worth playing; the Myst games particularly after the first one (at least for me),but by far the most difficult for me (but also enjoyable) was Black Dahlia. Boy, I had that walkthrough sitting right next to me!


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Mary] #587658
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I shall add Chemicus to the difficult list, at least for me.


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: GreyFuss] #587682
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Originally Posted By: GreyFuss
I shall add Chemicus to the difficult list, at least for me.

I agree. I also remembered a few more:
Drowned God
Milo
Chaos a Fantasy Adventure
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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: colpet] #587737
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I would agree with a lot of those mentioned, and Jenny100s list is pretty spot on.
Ones that particularly stick in my mind were:

Schizm 1
RAMA
Black Dahlia
Drowned God
Rhem 1
Alida
Riven


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: flotsam] #587753
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Keepsake
Myst series


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Space Quest Fan] #588007
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Rama was one I could never get to grips with.
The maths just totally eluded me scared


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Mad] #588021
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Mchinarium & Samarost were very puzzle oriented,
and also lots of fun!
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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Becky] #588170
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How about Black Dahlia and Gabriel Knight 3?


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Barb] #588247
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Barb,
I remember having trouble with the computer in GK3. Black Dahlia was tough but what a great game.


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Space Quest Fan] #589343
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Among the most challenging games I've played so far were the following:
- Shivers; really tough puzzles but great fun nonetheless
- Agon; from episode 3 onward, the puzzles become harder and harder
- Myst; I must admit I gave up on it after I don't know how many times. Last time I attempted to play the game, I used a walkthrough and even then the game just didn't work for me.
- Dracula 3 - Path of the Dragon has some very hard puzzles, I think
- GK3 - great game but I remember using a walkthrough for most of the last chapter; especially the chess board and the computer made me give up to a certain extent.
- Outcry has some tough puzzles as you progress; the tough thing about Outcry is that you don't get any hints as what to do next and no hints as why you're doing what you're doing.


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Re: Most Challenging Game [Re: Jehane] #589953
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The most challening game for me was Keepsake. Although it's a 3'rd person perspective (but different from the regular 3'rd person perspective), I keep losing my sense of direction. Certain parts of the game requires me to go back and forth the same place and I have a hard time getting to the right place because the navigation was tough. The puzzles are hard too, I like more of the inventory puzzle type. I gave up this game midway.

The other 2 challenging games are the Dracula: Resurrection & Last Sanctuary. These games are hard because it is in the 1'st person perspective. I also lose my sense of direction and get dizzy sometimes. I gave up both games as well. These 2 games are available in jewel case for $9.99 and it's a real bargain!


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