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Re: big fish game manager [Re: lexxy] #746202
08/12/11 08:51 AM
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Lexxy,
I am running XP Home SP2 with IE8 and have not had a problem with the new GM.
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Re: big fish game manager [Re: Marian] #746261
08/12/11 02:19 PM
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Just to let you know, I had a e-mail from a 'Senior Tech' did as he said and still will not work, replied 2 days ago, have heard nothing, am quickly giving up hope,

Find it strange as I can download games from Alawar and Spintop, no problem,

Still I will leave it over the weekend and see what happens next week,

Just got on to there Live Chat and this is the remark from them,

I know an update for our Game Manager is going to be going out very soon, that should fix a lot of the errors that we're currently seeing. I'm very sorry about all this, I know it's very frustrating. This is something that we didn't intend to happen and are doing everything we can at the moment to get this taken care of as soon as we can, without creating more issues

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Re: big fish game manager [Re: widget] #746383
08/13/11 01:57 AM
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Well, that's good news for all of your having problems. Let's hope it works.
As well as feeling sorry for all my fellow Boomers who have experienced issues with the new GM I've also felt very sorry for BFG as they are such a good outfit and try hard to give excellent service.
However, I've been thinking all along - wouldn't the most effective way of helping everyone have been to swap the GM back to the previous version until the new one can be tested more thoroughly.
Maybe that's too simple, or there may well be tech. issues involved that would make this unworkable?

Re: big fish game manager [Re: meryl] #746436
08/13/11 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: meryl

However, I've been thinking all along - wouldn't the most effective way of helping everyone have been to swap the GM back to the previous version until the new one can be tested more thoroughly.
Maybe that's too simple, or there may well be tech. issues involved that would make this unworkable?


Many have suggested that - I think it's a great idea - and many have rolled back to GM 2.0 as individuals.

BFG, however, appears to be unwilling to bend. It's GM 3.0. Period.

18 days and counting....

Re: big fish game manager [Re: MrLipid] #746449
08/13/11 10:46 AM
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Somewhere in that huge long thread at Big Fish it was mentioned that the new Game Manager incorporates stricter copy "protection." So they're not going back to the old version, no matter how many problems it causes.

Re: big fish game manager [Re: Jenny100] #746456
08/13/11 11:22 AM
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I would have to agree with Jenny about the game manger as I have been working with BFG on my issues with it and Midnight Mysteries 3 not playing. Fortunately, they gave me a replacement credit for another game. However, they did state the following concerning the Game Manager:
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To be honest, most people can use our new Game Manager without issue, and most do like it. We tested it internally and with customers 6 months before releasing it – a lot of people do like it. However, as with any software a company releases, there will always be a percentage of customers who do not like it, or that it doesn't work – especially when it's new software. That's just the nature of Windows programs, and the nature of PC gaming. We will never be able to release a game that works with every customer – though we try our best to. Everyone's computers different, and some computers are just too old or slow for some of our new releases


The choice he is mentioning here, was my suggestion of going with the new game manager or staying with the old one.

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I think it'd be a great idea to have that choice, and I know that the Game Manager development team is considering it. The new Game Manager, though giving some customers issues, has a lot of little tweaks and structural changes in it that's normally supposed to make the whole download experience a lot better. That's really hard to tell if you're having trouble, though, so I can understand. I know that we're taking the feedback of the customers who do not like it in consideration - the custom sort feature's one thing, or the actual size of the Game Manager (I think it'd be great to adjust the size manually). Right now, it's really not possible to roll back to the old Game Manager, and I fear that if we did, the same problems will occur, or even new ones apepar.


They also say this about the operating systems it supports:
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Operating Systems supported by GM 3.0
Windows: XP and later, IE 7 and later
Mac: 10.4 and later (including Lion!), Safari 4.0 and later


Hope this helps a lot of you who are concerned about the new game manager. wink

Last edited by spankie; 08/13/11 11:25 AM.

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Re: big fish game manager [Re: Jenny100] #746470
08/13/11 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Somewhere in that huge long thread at Big Fish it was mentioned that the new Game Manager incorporates stricter copy "protection." So they're not going back to the old version, no matter how many problems it causes.


That turned out to be a misunderstanding. Or maybe just a rumor.

Unfortunately, silence breeds speculation and BFG has been routinely silent on the weekends.

Re: big fish game manager [Re: MrLipid] #746478
08/13/11 01:01 PM
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Unfortunately, silence breeds speculation and BFG has been routinely silent on the weekends.

Think I saw on BFG their tech support/responses is closed on the weekends. Perhaps this would be the answer to your statement. wave


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: spankie] #746483
08/13/11 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: spankie

Think I saw on BFG their tech support/responses is closed on the weekends. Perhaps this would be the answer to your statement. wave


And from a customer relationship standpoint, a poor answer it is.

As if finding an answer to the unexpected almost three week long failure of the linchpin of their business model can wait until Monday. Or Tuesday. Or whenever.

Harvard Business School case study on the hoof.

Re: big fish game manager [Re: MrLipid] #746491
08/13/11 02:42 PM
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The explanation given does not satisfy me. I have uninstalled the game manager and I am playing HOG that I have purchased at Walmart and I am checking out Spin Top and other sources as a replacement to BFG. I know that the other sources are more expensive but at least there won't be this constant drama. I know I will loose the games that I have already purchased from BFG but that is the price to pay.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: lexxy] #746525
08/13/11 05:52 PM
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That explanation doesn't satisfy me either, lexxy. I fail to see why customers cannot choose the download manager they want to use if they are told up front that newer games may not work on the old GM. I'm sure some of the people who play BFG games, whether a lot or a few, can't go out and buy a new computer to keep up with BFG's advances and I know that many of those who are getting more and more frustrated can't even play games they already own which did play with the old GM.

I'm using an older version of Opera because I like it and I'm willing to forego some of the updates. But my browser works. Opera doesn't tell me I have to update or...well, too bad. One wonders just why BFG can't do as much. Especially since my task manager identifies their new GM as a browser.

Gil.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: traveler] #746941
08/15/11 01:35 PM
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The ***Big Fish Game Manager 3.0 thread*** at Big Fish forums is now up to 63 pages. Some people still can't get it working.

Even if it works, it's inconvenient to use. It takes several seconds to start where the old version was virtually instantaneous, takes extra mouse clicks to accomplish the same thing as the old one, and repeatedly tries to foist the Big Fish toolbar on you every time you use it.

They haven't even fixed the bug where it "forgets" what you have set as your install folder every time you close it. I don't know how that bug got past testing. I also don't know why they chose Program Files as the default install location, since that's one of the two WORST choices for install location (along with the Windows folder itself) for every version of Windows since XP SP2.

Re: big fish game manager [Re: Jenny100] #747000
08/15/11 05:44 PM
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What's more, the game manager doesn't seem to recognize those who are already members. The last time I dl'd it (and I do mean the last), a pop-up offered me a game for $4.99 if I signed up.

Gil.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: traveler] #747087
08/16/11 02:38 AM
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Well, I spoke too soon about all going well for me with the new GM.

I have not been able to download anything for many days now - I have 9 games in the queue and I keep getting the error message "Download Timed Out". I have never ever had this message before.

I leave my laptop on overnight to download these games, but the Gm simply says next morning "Ready to download", although I clicked on them all the previous evening for downloading. I am now on my third attempt to download the new Redemption Cemetery and I have also tried the alternate download method with no success.

And I know it's not my internet connection as I have just downloaded Dracula The Last Sanctuary and this was (for my connection) a huge download of nearly 2 GB - aaarrrggghhhh


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: Rosaboobie] #747245
08/16/11 07:42 PM
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The way it's sounding, 63 pages equates to bad programming.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: Homer6] #747267
08/16/11 09:29 PM
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They've just locked those 68 pages, Homer6, and opened a new thread on the 'new, updated game manager' which has evidently just been pressed into service. Whatever else has been fixed, the size of the GM and the ads for "Game You'll Love" appear to be the same.

Gil.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: traveler] #747278
08/16/11 10:30 PM
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Just checked the new thread and it seems, so far, the updated GM has fixes taking care of reported problems. Though, one user reported still having download problems.

Time will tell if this update has any more surprises.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: family] #747434
08/17/11 12:09 PM
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A few months ago, BFG was named after I did a quick AVG scan. Since that has never happened before, I informed BFG, and this is their response.

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Discussion Details
Our Response March 31, 2011 05:30 PM PDT
Hello Annette,

Thanks for taking the time to write to us. This is *** in Seattle, and I understand AVG listed 163 cached Big Fish Games files as corrupted executables. I'm happy to talk with you about this today.

I can definitely understand your concern about malicious software on your computer -- this is a very serious issue. I want to start by assuring you that our files are 100% safe -- no actual virus or trojan has ever been found in them, and as we show on each game page, they are scanned daily by a variety of security software (including Trend Micro and McAfee products). What you have received is a false alarm, and I would like to explain why you received it.

Malicious programs generally allow for unauthorized communication between a computer and either another computer or a network elsewhere. The Big Fish Games files that set off this warning for you are sometimes mistaken for these types of files by security software, due to how they operate. Once those .bin and .exe files of ours are downloaded, they fetch the requested game from our network and install it within our Game Manager -- because this two-way communication can appear suspicious to some security software, those files are occasionally flagged as trojans by mistake. This is what happened in your case.

We enjoy a great relationship with most antivirus companies. What usually happens in cases like this is that we contact the antivirus company, inform them of the false positive, and they adjust their definitions so as to avoid problems like this with those files.

Again, I very much understand your concern, and I'm happy you wrote in. We take security very, very seriously here. I hope this information has been helpful, Annette. If you have any further questions or concerns, please let me know.


All the best,

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virus message re: upgrade

I did an AVG scan yest and was shocked to see it list 163 BFG cashe files about 'upgrade download test corrupted executable SDK type.core' and each file listed had a different number; if they were consecutive numbers, they weren't listed that way so I couldn't tell.


Also, I just browsed thru the BFG forum about the newest GM, lots of unhappy customers out there, some considering ending their membership.

So far, thankfully, my computer is doing fine with it; tho it may be because I just upgraded my pc to a custom-made model with a lot more memory and that always helps.

I don't mean that to be a brag; I just have feeling that older pcs might be the reason some folks are having issues with BFG's new GM.

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Re: big fish game manager [Re: Homer6] #747436
08/17/11 12:13 PM
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I havent noticed my GM updating today - I have 3.0.1.44 - Is this the updated version?


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: Rosaboobie] #747438
08/17/11 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rosaboobie
I havent noticed my GM updating today - I have 3.0.1.44 - Is this the updated version?


Yes, it is. wave

Re: big fish game manager [Re: Marian] #747515
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I downloaded a demo game just to see if there was an update and it took me 8 (eight) minutes just for the demo and that big outrageous back drop is still there so for my money nothing has changed.


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Big Fish too big for its boots? #747630
08/18/11 07:09 AM
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With apologies to MaG. mods and everyone who might be offended: I tried to buy a game from Big Fish just now and had to endure yet another download of Game Manager (last download was a few days ago). After the game manager download (yawn) I was greeted with an error code 322 message (huh?) and apparently Big Fish doesn't recognise my 'n' drive, which I don't, either. So here I stand, with a credit gobbled up by Big Fish and nothing to show for it and lack of comprehension of what mistooks I made.
Methinks that Big Fish and Paul Thielen need to come back to grass roots and consider the individuals rather than the overall success.
A company is only as good as the people it employs.
Not the place to air this, MaG, I know, but none of the choices on Big Fish seemed appropriate. Thank you for being here as an unbiased mouthpiece.


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Re: Big Fish too big for its boots? [Re: myopia] #747631
08/18/11 07:15 AM
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I have to chin in here and say that I agree with everything you have stated and it's a shame because I used to look forward to the delightful games they offered and the short download and the excellent customer service they provided. I have cancelled my membership and am playing the games already paid for and accepting the slow download.


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Re: big fish game manager [Re: lexxy] #747641
08/18/11 07:58 AM
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Re: butterflybabe's posting, I would like to point out that about two years ago or more I 'ditched' Kaspersky as my anti-virus and firewall because it kept flagging-up false reports during BFG downloads. I did send a message to Kaspersky prior to ditching it to see if the company would look into this but, alas, no reply was received.

Since getting rid of Kaspersky there has not been any problem with any warnings whatsoever. Therefore, the reply butterflybabe received from BFG is entirely correct and accurate! thumbsup wave

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Re: big fish game manager [Re: bermag45] #747650
08/18/11 08:30 AM
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I'm wondering if Big Fish is really as bug-proof as they claim. Recently I blanked my hard drive and re-installed Vista.
When I went to 'find pictures on my computer' I had pages and pages of pictures from every (I think) Big Fish game I have downloaded since 2008.
Either the drive wasn't blanked properly or there is forever a secret place on the hard drive for 'Big Fish' eek eek eek scared

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