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Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers #798791
03/28/12 10:49 PM
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I am not sure how to react to this bit of writing on PC Gamer:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/24/sacred-cows-killing-your-darlings-vol-1/

Before you start bashing, take note of the author's name - Richard Cobbett. Richard has written many articles on adventure games. I must say I am a bit lost in words as to his opinions in this piece.

Some of the words there are obvious written with a hefty dose of sarcasm, but it is difficult to tell often whether or not his hatred expressed toward King's Quest and Blade Runner is genuine.

Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #798792
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Just measure Cobbett's catalog of best selling games against that of Williams. Sounds more like envy than anything else. I guess he told you who he is.

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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #798810
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The guy's bitter.


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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #798844
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Thanks DaveHT for the link!

My first thought was that is PC Gamers so short on material that they have to include these sort of articles?

The 3 AGs/series mentioned I've never played i.e. Kings Quest, Day of the Tentacle & Blade Runner. But they are all early games which I just don't see the point of being so vitriolic about for the sake of it? in 2012!

These games continue to turn up in favourite games list so a better article for me would have included some of the writer's analysis of the 'bad points' of the games from a constructive & impersonal viewpoint counteracted with reasons why these games are still popular with players - I don't believe it's entirely nostalgia!

Btw, if there's any single accountants in Slough with the same raw personality of the King's Quest games..... rotfl

Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: chrissie] #798849
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For me, that was not an article worth writing, never mind reading !! rolleyes


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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #798876
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You know how it goes when you're stuck for something to write about, Mad. Anyway, it seems to have worked; he generated comments from his clique of admirers and got some notice here in the more rarified atmosphere of Gameboomers. wink

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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #798879
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I just chuckled at the article - it's of no consequence anyway.


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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: sureshot] #798887
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"I just chuckled at the article - it's of no consequence anyway. "

Which is why it needn't have been written rolleyes

But then, I am biased towards those fabulous older Adventures. And not in a solely nostalgic way at all.
They were just SO GOOD praise


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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #799010
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I found the article rather funny although a bit plump. It's written in a deliberately exaggerated style.

Personally I think the weakness of gameplay in King's Quest and Bladerunner is obvious. But that does not exclude the option to really like or love these games for numerous reasons not mentioned in that specific article.

Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: DaveHT] #799030
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Originally Posted By: Richard Cobbett article
And in case you haven’t noticed, I am totally lying through my teeth about all of this to see how many people rush to the comment thread without bothering to read any of the words.

People seem to miss this part. And when someone on that site leaves a comment, complaining about what he wrote about Day of the Tentacle, he responds with
Quote:
(silently makes a little mark on a piece of paper)

So he does enjoy Day of the Tentacle (and in some future article he will probably use the information he collects about how many people post without reading the whole article).

Note that he says KQVI was "OK," which means he probably liked it more than he's willing to admit in the article. Many adventure gamers would agree that it's the best of the series. He also admits that Blade Runner was good in the beginning, but deteriorated later.

As for the rest of the KQ series, I've read similar complaints about the illogical puzzles from other adventure gamers. I've also seen the same complaints about the non-adventure games he mentions (GTA IV and Max Payne). Obviously he's exaggerating for humor's sake because many people enjoyed these games -- and still enjoy them. Just not everyone.

Richard Cobbett writes humor articles, so don't take what he says too seriously, and always look for an indication that he's pulling your leg (as with Day of the Tentacle). If you want to see what he says about a game he "really" hates, check out the Googlegroups archive of what he wrote in the adventure newsgroup,
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure
(which is now
***archived by Google***
) back before he got a job writing for PC Gamer UK. He called himself "Charybdis" back then. I think the main reason he hated Myst was because he didn't think it deserved its fame, because he once said he didn't think Riven was bad.

Smulan is right, the article doesn't mention the positives of these games that made up for the flaws in gameplay. But this is not a serious article and people should not take it too seriously.

Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: Jenny100] #799212
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"And in case you haven’t noticed, I am totally lying through my teeth about all of this to see how many people rush to the comment thread .... "

Ooooops !! I'm certainly one who never saw that bit !! blush


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Re: Awkward Rant on Adventure Games on PC Gamers [Re: Mad] #799225
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Me neither Mad & I thought I'd read it so carefully! lol

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