GAMEBOOMERS provides you with all the latest PC adventure computer games information, forum, walkthroughs, reviews and news.

GB Reviews

Latest & Upcoming Adventure Games

GB Annual Game Lists

GB Interviews

BAAGS

GB @ acebook

About Us

Walkthroughs

free games galore

Game Publishers & Developers

World of Adventure

Patches

GB @ witter

GameBoomers Store

Big Fish Games Homepage
Print Thread
Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin #799484
04/01/12 03:21 AM
04/01/12 03:21 AM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 93
Gemany
JackVanian Offline OP
Shy Boomer
JackVanian  Offline OP
Shy Boomer

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 93
Gemany
Dear Gameboomers,

I'd like to tell you about our new guest column right now. The new article was written by Agustin Cordes and deals with innovation in adventure games. I think that Agustin did a wonderful job with it and I would be glad if many of you read the article.

Aside of that we just started a community interview with Agustin on our message board. No matter if you want to discuss his column with him, if you have questions about Asylum, Scratches or whatever comes to your mind... this is the right place to ask your questions.
All you have to do is to register on our message boards and ask Agustin your questions.
I would be happy if many of you participate! smile

Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799506
04/01/12 06:29 AM
04/01/12 06:29 AM
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 69,956
MaG Offline
Sonic Boomer
MaG  Offline
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 69,956
Thanks for sharing, Jack!


Wonderful, well written and deeply thought out, Agustin! bravo

Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799508
04/01/12 06:42 AM
04/01/12 06:42 AM
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Becky Offline
The Medieval Lady
Becky  Offline
The Medieval Lady
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Thanks JackVanian -- Agustin always has something intriguing to say! wave

The implication behind some of what he says (I think) is that adventure games should have more dialog. I've been thinking the opposite. lol

Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799519
04/01/12 08:11 AM
04/01/12 08:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 78,429
In the Naughty Corner
BrownEyedTigre Offline
The Sassy Administrator PR Liaison
BrownEyedTigre  Offline
The Sassy Administrator PR Liaison
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 78,429
In the Naughty Corner
Wonderful interview JackVanian and Agustin! yay

Becky, I agree with you. I am not fan of a lot of dialogue. lol

Ana wave


Don't feed the Trolls
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799528
04/01/12 08:55 AM
04/01/12 08:55 AM
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Becky Offline
The Medieval Lady
Becky  Offline
The Medieval Lady
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Dialog all has to be translated! Most adventure games are released internationally these days. I've been seeing a trend toward getting the message across in fewer words, if only for practical reasons.

Last edited by Becky; 04/01/12 08:56 AM.
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799537
04/01/12 09:20 AM
04/01/12 09:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,539
GreyFuss Offline
Addicted Boomer
GreyFuss  Offline
Addicted Boomer

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,539
This has got to be an April Fools joke...right?


"Don't Hate Me Because I Am Beautiful...There Are Many Other Reasons!"
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799540
04/01/12 09:40 AM
04/01/12 09:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 78,429
In the Naughty Corner
BrownEyedTigre Offline
The Sassy Administrator PR Liaison
BrownEyedTigre  Offline
The Sassy Administrator PR Liaison
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 78,429
In the Naughty Corner
???

Ana wave


Don't feed the Trolls
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799585
04/01/12 02:28 PM
04/01/12 02:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 230
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Agustin Cordes Offline
Settled Boomer
Agustin Cordes  Offline
Settled Boomer

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 230
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Hey all, glad you liked the article!

Becky, I don't necessarily mean more dialogue, but perhaps more *focused* dialogue. Less repetition and more random, as if you were talking to a real person.


Senscape // Founder // Designer
Twitter: @AgustinCordes
Working on: Asylum
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799597
04/01/12 03:51 PM
04/01/12 03:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Becky Offline
The Medieval Lady
Becky  Offline
The Medieval Lady
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Agustin, that sounds good to me!

There will be "completists" who will simply talk to the character until the character finally starts repeating their comments (even if it takes longer than usual), though. We've been trained to do this as adventure gamers for fear we'll miss something if we miss any of the character's comments.

I admire you for thinking of innovative ideas and for trying new things! I don't mean to be discouraging, I'm just thinking of what my response might be.

Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799804
04/02/12 01:57 PM
04/02/12 01:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 230
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Agustin Cordes Offline
Settled Boomer
Agustin Cordes  Offline
Settled Boomer

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 230
Buenos Aires, Argentina
I know what you mean Becky, the "I-must-exhaust-every-possibility" syndrome. This is a bad practice in truth and the culprits have been badly designed adventures which *forced* us to dissect dialogue trees.

It would be a difficult task but I think players could be "trained" again into letting themselves go and just experience dialogues as a normal person would. The Tex Murphy series (the later ones, that is) are great examples of how to implement dialogues that feel natural. You can't even tell in advance what Tex is going to say, and once you choose an option, there's no going back.


Senscape // Founder // Designer
Twitter: @AgustinCordes
Working on: Asylum
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799806
04/02/12 02:07 PM
04/02/12 02:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Becky Offline
The Medieval Lady
Becky  Offline
The Medieval Lady
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Hi Agustin -- Well, if the characters you're imagining are as entertaining as Tex is, I'll try to think "normal" and treat dialog like a conversation instead of a puzzle.

It won't be a puzzle...will it? evil

Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799944
04/03/12 06:34 AM
04/03/12 06:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 230
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Agustin Cordes Offline
Settled Boomer
Agustin Cordes  Offline
Settled Boomer

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 230
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Well, I'm not really fond of dialogue puzzles. We're trying to make the characters in Asylum feel as natural as possible, and interactions with them will be primarily informative. We're also trying something new with the dialogue system, but some tests are still pending. Hopefully it will feel fresh and different smile


Senscape // Founder // Designer
Twitter: @AgustinCordes
Working on: Asylum
Re: Adventure-Treff guest column #2: Agustin Cordes/ Community Interview w. Agustin [Re: JackVanian] #799946
04/03/12 06:42 AM
04/03/12 06:42 AM
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
Becky Offline
The Medieval Lady
Becky  Offline
The Medieval Lady
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 26,917
Stony Brook, New York, USA
We're all looking forward to Asylum. Fresh and different just adds to the anticipation. woot



JackVanian -- I just registered on the Adventure Treff forums, and the "rules" in English were much shorter than the "rules" in German.

Is less expected of me as an English speaker? lol

Last edited by Becky; 04/03/12 06:51 AM.
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

Moderated by  BrownEyedTigre, Marian 

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 69 guests, and 10 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Staff, Mod
Newest Members
LisaB1027, Candilina, ttomm46, kenna98, Fenotak
9144 Registered Users
Powered by UBB.threads™