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Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert

Posted By: Becky

Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 09/30/04 05:47 AM

Well, since people are starting to get their hands on this game, I thought I'd start a Quest thread. Anyone who wants to play Myst IV Revelation as a team, this is where to do it!

Although our goal in this Quest will probably not be to write a walkthrough (Myst games always seem to spontaneously generate lots of walkthroughs) it would help Gameboomers significantly if many of us became so familiar with the challenges in this game that we can easily help others in the Hints forum in the future (and there will be lots of confused gamers playing this game for years to come!).

Note: as always, if you are posting something that could obviously give away the solution to a puzzle or a plot element, put up a spoiler warning first.

I don't know about others, but I'm planning to play this one at a leisurely pace and enjoy every little bit of it.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 09/30/04 08:42 PM

Let us know when you are ready to Quest. I have just started...

Non spoiler type impressions:

- It's so "alive". Birds everywhere. Leaves and bugs flying, wind sounds, light changing as the clouds travel overhead.

- Love the occasional ability to move your view during a full-motion-video.

- Yeesha's a charmer.

Dadguy
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 09/30/04 09:39 PM

I guess I'm sort of ahead...I'm already in another age...and getting ready to leave. The puzzles are just mind-boggling at the moment and complex as ever. hehe. What's new, right? hehe.
There is one thing I TRULY LOVE is the fact that all the books you read can be recited BACK to you, so you really DON'T have to read. I LOVE that so much. You can listen in on it from their perspective, whether good or bad.
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 12:03 AM

Spire age is killing me - I feel again like 6 year old frown Am I stupid or what?
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 12:05 AM

That's where I was. It was a MAJOR pain, but it's not that bad if you read everything around you. If you need help, just tell us where you are and I'm sure we can help.
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 05:19 AM

Full install took more than an hour! It's too late to start playing now. Isn't it?
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 08:16 AM

So aside from all the usual puzzling...has anyone figured out why subtitles are only available in...Dutch? duh
Posted By: girlgeek

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 09:46 AM

Anyone else have the game crash to the desktop after they were in the prison age (the left linking book one) for awhile?

I was walking down the steps of this green crystal covered mountainish thing and then took the elevator down to the bottom, got off, took two steps forward and...

CRASH! Hello desktop!
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 01:38 PM

Girl geek I have a question for you?...During installation did the game suggested that if you needed to upgrade your graphic drive..or you will get some problems in the game...I got that message
close to the end of installation..Where a window
pops up and have a list of check requiremnets to play the game...If you did then that is probably the reason you game could be crashing..


Just started yesterday...Wasn't able to play much since I started to play close to dinner time and couldn't get back to play again...But I am looking for, I think the control room..And I think I broke something, duh push a button, pulled a lever, and the lights of this standing thing turned off...Had some chat with the little girl, and played with some frequent machine where the guy helped me with(What's his name?)

I will get back to the game some time late in evening..Have to go to a Kids Birthday party on Sat..maybe get to play late at night..

It is amazing how you can enter someones bedroom and poke around in their stuff(only in games) wave
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 03:52 PM

Demosthenes -- when you first install the game you choose among several language choices. My guess is that, for some reason, Dutch was the default when you installed the game.

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I've just blown things up! I think this was because I didn't have the competence to follow Atrus's instructions.

I've always thought of Atrus as near-super-human. It was so funny to see the look on his face when his cherished mechanical device exploded.

He has now left me alone with Yeesha. I have a bad feeling about this. I suspect that restoring power and everything else I'm supposed to do will pale in comparison to the challenge of keeping Yeesha out of trouble.
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 04:17 PM

Becky: Not only did I select "English", but reinstalling it had the same effect.

All the in-game menus, text and dialogue are in English. It's just the subtitle settings that claim they're only in Dutch. (Options--Game Options menu).



Pretty weird, if you ask me. woozy
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 04:59 PM

I'm not sure why the subtitles are set up that way, Demosthenes, but my game is the same. I'll consult my all-knowing expert to see if she can give us any explanation.

Liz, that man who was asking for your help is Atrus himself!

Becky, I don't think it was our incompetence that caused the crystal viewer to blow a fuse--if you read some of the journals scattered around, it sounds as though it happens now and then...
Posted By: girlgeek

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 05:47 PM

Liz,

Nope, no error boxes or anything during installation, my system exceeds requirements. On my first install it wouldn't install all the way and crashed to the desktop. I, therefore, disabled Norton Anti-virus (a COMMON problem) and re-installed without a hitch.

I've encountered no other problems while playing.

Returned to an old save and went back to the linking books, but this time chose the linking book on the right. No crashes this time. Guess I'll have to wait to see if the left book Age crashes again when I return to it. For now...I'm just going on in another Age, as I don't want to stop playing!!!! LOL

Gotta go! Much to see and much to do!
Posted By: Sequoia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 06:42 PM

I fondled the game long enough and besides some clouds showed up so it wasn't as nice outside anymore and I could stop feeling quilty for staying inside! So I am back in the land of Myst.

I have found that it is very difficult to play during the day- blinds are closed but the screen was impossible to see. The observatory was so dark that I couldn't see the stairs or any of the levers. I went into the options and lo and behold there is a lever to adjust the brightness, boy did that help! I think that I will have to turn it back down when I head outside, but for now I can see all of the beautiful detail of the room.

This is going to be a great game- and I will play it slowly like sipping a great glass of wine!

Sequoia
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 07:28 PM

Girlgeek, I went to the left linking book (Spire), and didn't have a crash. I did, however, turn around a couple times to view the scenery on the way down the stairs and observed some buggy graphics. There were a few transparent squares in the rock that shouldn't have been there.

I am now fighting to find out how to get the floating ship to allow me to cross to the floating islands in Spire.

Dadguy
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 07:42 PM

eww...I got lucky on that puzzle. Just think about HOW electromagnetic fields actually works and pay attention to the panels...
That should help out a bit. =)
Posted By: girlgeek

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 09:54 PM

dadguy and rain2,

I'm on that puzzle in Spire NOW. I've gotten the ship up to where I can get on it once...went and got on, couldn't get it to fly...got back off, went back to the panel and screwed it up and haven't gotten it back up to flying level again since! LOL Once I get IN the ship, I'm not sure how to get it to FLY!!!

Any hints on actually FLYING it??
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 10:13 PM

Yes! I figured it out...

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OK, you need a proper balance of PULL from the top magnet and PULL from the bottom magnet. You are where I was... you probably have one power light on the top power panel and 6 power lights on the bottom power panel. This is the correct differential (i.e., the bottom must have 5 more lights than the top to get the ship at the docking bay). But, you must get the CORRECT balance AND level of power to get the channel open to cross to the floating palace.

So, if you can find a way to get TWO power lights on the top panel and SEVEN power lights on the lower panel, the ship will have the proper differential to float at the dock level PLUS it will have the proper level to fly across.

So, play with the slider on the top power panel first to get it to TWO power lights, then fool with the bottom one to get it to SEVEN.

By the way, the power lights are the ones at the top row. There are four possible on the top panel and seven possible on the bottom panel.

If you need help with how to get them to these levels, give us a call!

Dadguy

PS: I haven't started Haven yet, so it's good that you went back to Spire first... we can stay together on our Quest!
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/01/04 10:27 PM

Right now, I've been to Spire and finished most of it. Not sure what to do about the numbers just yet. Been to Serenia and finished about half, and now in Haven just to check things out. So far so good. I'm erratic, aren't I? hehe. =)
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 01:56 AM

I'm way behind you all. I'm wandering around and taking everything in. You can see shadows from the clouds moving across the rocks! I watched a bird at a bird feeder. Everything moves and drifts in the wind. It's amazing.

If Atrus had really wanted me to accomplish tasks quickly, he shouldn't have put me in such a fun place to explore.

Whenever I click to go forward, there's a pause, almost as though the game is reading from the DVD drive, which it isn't because I've done a full install. I'm getting used to it, though it does slow movement a bit.

I checked out the subtitles. Only in Dutch in my game too. I am VERY curious as to why.
Posted By: maggiebe

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 02:49 AM

I thought I was ready for this quest but I
have no focus on my camera and my curser keeps changing eek ( invidaGeforce2 mx100/200 ) 512megs not sure how much memory.
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 04:37 AM

Maggiebe, for the blurriness, you might want to go to the Options--Graphics Options menu and turn off "Depth of Field" effects.

That's an effect that blurs everything except for the 8 or 9 pixels surrounding the cursor. It's supposed to simulate depth of field, but in my opinion it just makes everything look blurry...

I love the animated backgrounds in this game, though. smile
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 04:45 AM

maggiebe, you may need to update your video drivers. Also, that camera focus thing sounds strange. Maybe you should make sure the special effect for Depth of Field is disabled in the graphic setup options.

Becky, I loved that cloud/sunlight effect that you see when you first land at the entrance of Tomahna. I stood and watched for 30 minutes. Fantastic!

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 07:22 AM

I am way behind you guys...And I am at the part with the view puzzle...the power is up and I am at the observation deck...Now I need to put the combination cystal in the panels that you slide open...My question is? Do I need the crystal in the drawer in Artus desk to put them in the panels?

If so, I can't grab them it won't let me, I could tap them, but can't pick them up...I took a picture of the cystals combination of Artus journal, sat in the chair and got a close up view of the telescope, turn on the anntenna button..

What am I doing wrong?...Liz
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 08:06 AM

Looks like all is good. Do you see Static on the Viewer screen? If so, then you're all set for the puzzle and you DON'T need those crystals in the drawer; just the picture you took. You'll figure out the puzzle eventually that way. Hope that helps a little. I don't like solving puzzles here unless someone REALLY needs it. =)
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 08:13 AM

Thanks rain 2...Yes, I see static and I took the picture of the cystals in the journal...I give it move time to see if I could fiqure it out..Just wanted to know if I need those cystals in the drawer...

Liz
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 01:15 PM

Demosthenes -- thanks for the hint on the "depth of field" option. I'm going right in and turning it off!

Has anybody listened all the way through the music that plays when you see the main menu? I've listened four times.

Dadguy -- I know exactly what you mean about just standing and watching things! I'm going to restart my game and NOT do the thing that makes Yeesha mad. I want to see if that changes anything.

Jenny -- yes, let us know! It has occurred to me that perhaps they didn't get any Dutch voice actors, but wanted to reach their fans in the Netherlands, so they put Dutch subtitles in with the English voice acting.

Hmmm. Wouldn't it be interesting to see Atrus speaking French or Italian? I'd probably have to reinstall the game though. Wouldn't be worth it.

It's still taking me awhile to get used to the cursor. I like it's flexibility, that you can push and pull things. It looks weird as a pointer, though. I'm not sure I like looking at a severed 3 dimensional hand. I keep wanting to connect it to an arm. Somehow the flat 2 dimensional cursor in the previous Myst games didn't have that association.

I might just read the manual and see if I'm missing out on something The Hand can do.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 02:25 PM

Liz,

You do not need any crystals for the puzzle. The crystals are built into the machine. You just have to figure out the settings to load the right crystal and right color for each of the five little doors.


Journal note:

Someone mentioned earlier that the journals can be recited by the actors rather than reading them. This is done with Yeesha's amulet... open the book then click the amulet and the actor will read the content. The reason I mention this (it's been pointed out already once in this topic) is that the actors do such a great job on the readings...it should not be missed.

Dadguy
Posted By: maggiebe

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 02:32 PM

Demosthenes DOF is not supported by this card I'll check for driver updates. While playing Aura and having problem with the temple circle puzzle I tried alot of different things to be able to view this puzzle up close, nothing worked finally we switched the Geforce out for another graphic card
(ATI) older version, which worked well and I was able to proceed. Of course this older version didn't work with revelation, so it was switch back. I read on the ubi supportsite that that I need the Geforce fx only? I will buy this card
and if I have to switch it out to play another game I will be done, I have patience with the game not for installing hardware. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 05:04 PM

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NO! NO! NO! What's happening?????
Holding my breath in anticipation for the beginning and it WON'T START!!!!

Why does the play button say "play disabled (disc 2)"?

What is wrong? Somebody, quick, HELP ME, PLEASE!

A few minutes later:
Oh, Crimeny, never mind. I am so hyper about this game I can't think straight. I had disc 1 in and then when I got that message and put disc 2 in, still got the same message. Had to quit out of game and go back in with disc 2 to get it to start. Now I am getting the message my graphics card needs to be updated. I think I am getting a migraine.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 05:53 PM

Everybody got that message about updating the video drivers (almost). I left mine at the old level and have done just fine. Some areas of the game are more demanding and could give trouble (like a crash to desktop). If and when that happens, you'll probably make the move to update the drivers.

Good luck. Have fun!

Dadguy
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 06:11 PM

Finally figured out the crystal viewer puzzle!!!! happydance

It had completely escaped me that a slider is usually a slider for some reason... blush
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 06:22 PM

Well, turning off depth-of-field is a definite improvement! Why'd they put it in in the first place, I wonder? They think people WANT the graphics blurry???

Someone told me how to make the cursor less realistic. You can change the cursor's color and fade it down to minimum. It now looks like a game cursor and not like a real hand.

Has anybody else tried to pick up the gold dragon fly on the railing?

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It had completely escaped me that a slider is usually a slider for some reason...
Hmmm...cryptic. I think I'll go think about this for an hour or so. Then I'll read the manual.
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 07:41 PM

I've just started. I got the message about the video card and I have the ATI 9800 so don't know why I got that message. I just ignored it and so far so good. Am really curious about those Dutch subtitles as well....
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 08:16 PM

Becky, I made that comment about the slider cryptic on purpose--didn't want to spoil it for anyone.

Taz, I have an ATI 9800 also, but I didn't get that message. I don't think it depends on which video card you have, but on how up-to-date the drivers are for your card. Since I just got my computer less than six months ago, the drivers are apparently up to date...
Posted By: kjos

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 10:45 PM

How do I get the subtitles to show up, I can't toggle them on or off. English or Dutch.
Thanks, Richard
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 10:58 PM

Jenny- thanx for info on drivers. My computer is 10 months old so maybe I need and update and that's why I got that message. If I have trouble I'll look into it. Rightnow I'm trying to figure out how to turn the power on....
Taz (Margie)
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 11:14 PM

Richard, there is a place to turn on subtitles under the "Options" in the main menu. I think it's under the "game options".

Margie, did you see that box on the wall in the room where Yeesha was looking at her bugs... think
Posted By: kjos

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 11:19 PM

Jenny,I can't put a check in the box. I've tried to enable it but it doesn't work,Thanks
Richard
Posted By: msblue

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 11:31 PM

I have restored power, read journal,took picture of crystals, put them in the order they show in the journal, press center button...nothing happens. Have static in the viewer, what am I doing wrong? Do I have to complete the puzzle in the fireplace before I do crystals? Help and thank you
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/02/04 11:47 PM

Hi-- Does an 'X' in one of the Option boxes mean that option is active or inactive? Thanks for your time.
Jayne
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 12:29 AM

X in the box means active.

Marty -- write the walkthrough in Russian? Wow!

Much nicer not to make Yeesha mad.
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 01:13 AM

Thanks, Becky!!! I thought X in the box meant inactive. Was just going to post and ask why I couldn't see any birds flying around. Took the X out of all the graphic boxes but still see clouds moving and the water rippling. Just no birds or bugs other than the blue beetles. What a timely answer you gave!!!
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 01:32 AM

Okay I figured out the Cystal puzzle..I didn't see the slider on the right, that is where I was going wrong...Anyone got it done and I am now somewhere in a big cystal island anyone knows where I am...I linked with the book on the left side?...

Liz
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 01:42 AM

Msblue: Double check the crystals and colors. You'll have to 'test' the last 3 shapes, cause it's kind of hard to tell Exactly what size they are, so work on those and you'll get it right.

Housewife: Yes, you are on Spire, the prison world of Sirrus. This can get a bit confusing, but just read 'Everything' you can and it shouldn't be too bad and keep a good eye for details.
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 02:14 AM

I love this game so far! But I am stuck because of my eye sight! The book puzzle in Yeesha's room. I know they are the names of the family and you push the books in chronological order. But there is no C in the Dni book. And the lettering on the books is almost impossible to read for me and looks almost nothing like the book on the table. So I am asking for a little help! I could link out to the other worlds but I would like to finish this first!

*UPDATE* I solved it after HOURS of determination!!! But want to know what was the point??? Things to see but that was it..... off to see the other worlds!
Posted By: girlgeek

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 03:05 AM

Gosh, I hope this game isn't too linear, cause I didn't even SEE Yeesha's bedroom on Tomahna before I ran off to Spire and Haven!! Am I going to be able to go BACK???

I'm still stuck in Spire at that control station for the rock ship. Guess I need to go fiddle with it some more. Still can't figure out how to make the gosh dern thing fly when I get in it.
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 05:23 AM

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Jenny,I can't put a check in the box. I've tried to enable it but it doesn't work,Thanks
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I just tried to put an X in the subtitles box, Richard, and you are right--it won't work.

I think I've figured out what that "subtitles only available in Dutch" means: the only time you can access the subtitles is when you are playing the Dutch language version of the game...
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 05:43 AM

Dragonia: The point of being able to access the lower level of Yeesha's room will be evident later when you return from one of the prison islands. For now, just enjoy the view.

Girlgeek: No, you have no linearity issues at this point. You could have explored the other areas before or after leaving Tomahna for the prison islands. Also, regarding enabling the ship to fly; I presume you read my spoiler from page 3 of this Quest... I am pretty sure that the secret is as I wrote it. Perhaps you are having trouble getting the power levels to the ones I suggested?

Quest on!

Dadguy
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 06:28 AM

How very annoying! No English Subtitles - that really will be a problem for me since I don't hear very well. Shoot! mad Will have to contact the makers to see if they can help me out here. thumbsup
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 07:12 AM

Hi,
May I join in?
Am currently knocking around in Spire. I may or may not have finished Haven - got a great ride back to the station, and then came here.
I have got the little ship to fly and I can now see another conductor panel but can't get to it. Have fiddled and poked about but no luck.
A large stuck gear is down below, and a viewer that looks like a spiderweb, but that seems to be it.
I seem to have exhausted all my options. I will wait here till someone comes across, and then we can compare notes smile

flotsam
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 08:56 AM

Flotsam - you have to unstuck the large gear below - to do so, you just have to knock down a little green stone. It's on the wheel (right side of it).
Posted By: kjos

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 01:37 PM

Thanks Jenny, I thought I was doing something wrong about not getting the subtitles to show up. I sure wish the had a english subtitle, my hearing isn't to good. Thanks
Richard
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 04:38 PM

Is Atrus' bedroom the one with the fireplace puzzle or do I have to keep looking? I've only found that bedroom and Yeesha's.

Oh, and has anyone been able to get through the back door of Yeesha's homework room (the one with the fireflies in a container)?

Thanks.
Jayne
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 04:59 PM

Well yes, jayne, you'll be able to go through the back door, but not untill you'll visit one of the ages.
Atrus bedroom is not that room with fireplace. Only hint I can give you is that keep looking in Yeesha's bedroom for some secret.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 05:53 PM

Thanks, Marty. I think I know where to look in her bedroom. It has to do with moving things in/out a bit, I think.

Also, thanks about the back door. I've spent lots of time looking for a lever of some sort.

Well, back to her bedroom.

Jayne
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 06:42 PM

happydance I got the power running. I couldn't play much yesturday- babysitting our 1 year old grandaughter. Anyway,I was aimlessly pressing those buttons until I figured out the logic (DUH) behind them. What a satisfying feeling when you finally figure it out! Then I had that big surprise which I hope was supposed to happen. And now I can't find yeesha.....
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 06:55 PM

This is interesting! If any of you kept your Nancy Drew magnifying glass from one of those games, it makes the book puzzle in Yeesha's bedroom a snap!!!!

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Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 07:28 PM

How do you get the books to recite back to you? Thx smile
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 07:32 PM

Am in the room with the fireflies trying to set the thing on the left side of the room. Apparently there is a proper sequence to push the keys here? Gather the crystals in Atrus' office have something to do with this? Don't understand the pattern here though. Hope somebody can give me some clear ideas here. Many thx smile
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 07:43 PM

I finally made it to the swimming pier from Yeesha's bedroom. Have gone up and down the ladder several times and walked around the pier. I see no sign of Atrus' bedroom. What the heck am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Frustrated Jayne

PS Please don't tell me I have to win the rolly-ball puzzle to get into his bedroom!
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 08:02 PM

Jayne you have to get the power back and contact Atrus in order to continue game
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 08:04 PM

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Am in the room with the fireflies trying to set the thing on the left side of the room. Apparently there is a proper sequence to push the keys here? Gather the crystals in Atrus' office have something to do with this? Don't understand the pattern here though. Hope somebody can give me some clear ideas here. Many thx smile
You have to rearrange power from fisrt and belive second last column into to equal columns in the middle.
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 08:06 PM

GeeGee, that thing in the room with the fireflies doesn't have anything to do with the crystals, it turns the power on. You need to get rows 3 and 4 so that they have white dots with a blue one on top of the rows. It takes some fiddling around.

Note: top row of keys controls which row you are moving dots from, bottom row, which row you are moving the dots to.

Have you opened the roof of the workroom? Have you taken a picture of the crystals? Once you get the power on, go to the machine in Atrus's workroom that blew up and use the crystals to get it going again...
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 08:10 PM

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How do you get the books to recite back to you? Thx smile
GeeGee, in the room with the picture of Atrus and Catherine with their sons over the fireplace, did you go inside the fireplace and pick up the medallion that Yeesha dropped? Once you have that, watch for it to light up and you'll get little vignettes from their lives. I think that also "reads" the books...
Posted By: msblue

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 08:57 PM

I cannot find Atrus Bedroom. I have done all of the puzzles including the one in the bedroom with the books and went to the water area where the easel is....where do I find Atrus Bedroom? been everywhere, also read diary...did fireplace puzzle also.......any left?

Thanks for some help please...
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 09:04 PM

Can you go to Serenia, msblue? If yes, then try to go back from Serenia to Tomahna and you'll see eveything for yourself.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 09:07 PM

Msblue-- We are at the same place. I've got the power on, set the antenna, did the crystals and talked to Atrus, did the fireplace puzzle and saw the linking books, did the puzzle in Yeesha's room and went to the pier with the easel, etc., etc. And I cannot find Atrus' bedroom either! Are we missing something at the pier? The only thing I can't do is get all those darn balls to fall in the holes.

Any help finding Atrus' bedroom would be appreciated. Thanks.

Jayne
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 09:11 PM

Well, actually on the pier you should find a linking book, but if it's not where, when I quess you have to travel a bit to Spire and Haven and go back to pier ater that.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 09:22 PM

Hi Marty. Thanks. Did not find a linking book on the pier. Will look again. You mean Atrus' bedroom is reached through a linking book?

How come he said to read in his journals about Spire and Haven in his bedroom then? I thought I should do that before going to Spire/Haven.

Pshaw! I'm going to take a break and come back with, hopefully, a sharper brain this evening.

Jayne
Posted By: msblue

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 09:33 PM

How do I get to Serina? Jayne what balls are you talking about? Nor have I been to Spire or Haven.......have no Idea how to get to any of those places........gads I must be dense.......
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 09:46 PM

I am at the spire, prison world...I looked around for sometime now, use the elevator if want to call it that, I think there is three levels in this world..I found a flotting object, and two
roll up controls with a lidder button, and got all the little lights on,(this one had 4 lights on, and the flotter moved, more and the other roll up controls has 7 lights on, and next the other book like circut that opens up like a book, the top 4 buttons are lite, the 7 other buttons are lite, now what?

Do I have to lite the other side of this book-light control with a lot of non-lite lights? if so where is it..I don't see anything else, but that spider chair, and doesn't look like has any power, tried to move the buton slide, but doesn't move..Took pictures of the documents I found, and found one about the spider chair, but don't know what I am looking at...Hope anyone understand this cause I don't..

Confuse-yet bet...Liz
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 10:16 PM

Msblue--I don't know how to get to Serina either. I assume it's via the linking book on the pier that Marty mentioned. I couldn't find the book. If you solved the fireplace puzzle you should have gone down and found the linking books to Spire and Haven. I haven't been there yet either because I've spent all day looking for Atrus' bedroom.

The balls are in that game that rocks back and forth in Ysheera's bedroom. If I don't find the linking book to Serina or Atrus' bedroom when I go back to the game, I will link to Spire or Haven and proceed on.

Good luck Msblue. Let me know if you find Atrus' bedroom.

Jayne
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/03/04 10:16 PM

GeeGee- Do you have power? If so the red light should blink when in chair and somtimes redundancy is necessary.... As for the roof make sure you look carefully at any and all levers...
Meanwhile, I have done the crystal bit and the fireplace bit. I also thought the fireplace room was atrus's so now i'll go search some more
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:03 AM

Well I just got the game 20 minutes ago and loaded it in and if I can ever figure out how to open the d*** door to follow the little girl in maybe, just maybe I'll be able to play - I know I'm supposed to do something with that blinky thing on the post but what - who knows, right now I'd give my eye teeth for a grenade launcher whistle

The opening sure brought back fond memories laugh Okay, back to the game and feeling stupid slapforehead
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:22 AM

I went into a bedroom past the study room - is this Yeesha's bedroom? If so, I can't find any books to look at. Also went into fireplace but no medallion to pick up here. Totally puzzled here. Also still can't get power on. Can't open roof in Atrus' workroom either!! Totally frustrated at this point and not getting anywhere - help!! Feel quite dumb. duh woozy help think
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:27 AM

GeeGee: You HAVE to get the power up and running BEFORE anything else will happen. You'll be able to find the book in Yeesha's and Atrus' room afterwards, along with opening the roof in the observatory. So, just concentrate completely on the power situation, take care of the water locks as Atrus told you too, and that should give you a great start. Good luck.
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:37 AM

GeeGee, the lever to open the roof is on the right as you face away from the chair. It is along the fence, and looks sort of like a striped pole with a round knob on the top. Some people have said that they had to lighten the graphics a little to see things.

Syd, if you're still trying to get that door open, put your hand on the knob on top of the lever to the right of the door and pull it toward you...
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:51 AM

Atrus' bedroom is the one with the UNLIT fireplace with the large family photo over it!

You can't get to Yeesha's bedroom (where the bookcase puzzle is) or the living quarters (lit fireplace) until you get power. You can't get the book-reading-amulet in Atrus' fireplace without power. You can't open the roof in Atrus' workshop without power. rain2 is right ...get that power.

There are posts earlier in this topic that offer clues on the power-up procedure, or you can try the ingame hints.

Loving the game,

Dadguy
Posted By: philby

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:04 AM

I can't figure out the crystal viewer puzzle!....I even have the guide....

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I am sure I have it set right then press the large red button and Atrus does not appear on the crystal viewer!

Help?

Paul
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:17 AM

fourth - blue should be Light Blue
second - indigo should be Blue

I think the rest is correct.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:22 AM

Dadguy--Is Atrus' bedroom the same room with the fireplace puzzle? If so, where oh where is his desk with the top drawer that has the symbol?

If not, where in heck is his bedroom located? I can only find the fireplace puzzle bedroom and Yeesha's bedroom.

I've got power, just can't find Atrus' desk in his bedroom.

Thanks!
Jayne
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:32 AM

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You're in the right bedroom. The symbol is actually in the top-middle of the desk. You can't click on it UNTIL you open that little cubby RIGHT ABOVE the symbol. Once you open that little door, you can click on the symbol right below it and open a secret cubby. Hope that helps.
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:48 AM

Well - I am having a really bad time here - can't get power going at all - have fiddled and fiddled and my brain is mushy from all this fiddling!! Can somebody please tell me the correct way to get the lights to the proper places? I know I need to get them to rows 3 & 4 and that a blue light needs to be on top of each. Any help would be greatly appreciated smile wave help
Posted By: philby

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:16 AM

rain 2 tks for the info, should have relied on the photo I took of the crystal arrangement....the guide is wrong!
tks again
Paul
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:49 AM

Hi again,
I am trusting my stuckness this time isn't as hopeless as last time.
I have managed to get the spire chair powered up and think I have worked out the lock puzzle. But I am guessing the 3 gears below play a part (they have little shapes on them), which is where I sit. Is there a journal page I am missing which gives the hint to the placement of the gears? Fiddling and using the shapes as the key haven't helped. I will continue my searching for the moment.
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:58 AM

Rain, that's not the sequence of colors that I used--my problem was with the shapes of the last three that are so much alike. I used these colors and got the message from Atrus: SPOILER
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Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:03 AM

Jenny: Yeah, I knew the shapes of the last three were so close that I'd figure there would be some 'experimentation' with the shapes. Since it was only three, the number of permutations were small, so it didn't take long to get the right sequence. =)
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:17 AM

You guys are way ahead of me. I just got the game but had to install drivers for my graphics card. I am having a heck of a time getting the power up. Any thoughts or hints would be appreciated.

Oh, and I let Yeesha's beetles?? out of the box. Am I in trouble for doing that? I sure don't want her mad at me. <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />

Great game so far if only I can get the power up.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:19 AM

Thanks Rain2! I finally read the journals. Silly me, I was looking for a real desk drawer all this time.

Jayne
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:13 AM

Thanks to your postings I think I got the power on. I moved some buttons went to the water thingy and pushed a button there. Went out and there was an earthquake and everything is a mess. Was this suppose to happen or did I just push the wrong button?
I am so confused. woozy
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:18 AM

You're on the right track rockingrjranch. Keep at it. The story will slowly unfold. =)
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:23 AM

Can anyone give me a push...where I last posted..
at spire, prison world...I am trying to fiqure out how this spider chair works, or how to power it up?

Liz
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:40 AM

It has something to do with the three control panels that you powered up (hopefully you have) to use the Rock-Ship and the 3rd being there just to power up. If you read the notes carefully, it'll tell you about those three control panels and how to power up the chair. Hope that gives you a little hint to push you through that part.
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:47 AM

Hello rain2, I think I powered up two control panels, but can't find the third one..

You saying that the third control is somewhere else?

Rock-ship, don't know what it looks like?

Liz
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:54 AM

Liz,

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The two you have found will allow you to activate and ride the Rock Ship. You have to set the power properly to allow the Rock Ship to fly to the other power panel.

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:58 AM

rain2 -- yes, I've been watching hits on this thread too. Pretty amazing. A lot of people are playing this game.

I'm not sure I'd want to see Riven done in this style. I like it a lot as it is, and I think I'd rather see the development teams focus on producing new Myst games.

I finally got the power on, and now I'm almost wishing I hand't. I suppose that green light I saw before I passed out wasn't natural, was it?

I'm having a great time with the images in the necklace. I thought that probably the necklace only worked for Yeesha, but I guess I was wrong.

The place looks beautiful at night, but I'm worried sick!

It is very hard to quit this game and get some sleep.
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 05:03 AM

dadguy, can you help with the gear sequence below the spider chair? There must be a clue somewhere.
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 05:42 AM

Boy, do I know what you mean Becky!!! I found Atrus's two journals and set the crystals--I got pictures for each one, but couldn't do anything, so I assume there's more I have to do. Now I'm getting ready to tackle the books in Yeesha's room.

But considering the night I had last night (or didn't have if you are talking about sleep! wave
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 05:43 AM

The linking book to Serena is not at the end of the pier.All the puzzles are done, did I miss something?
Viz
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 06:39 AM

How did you find out about the linking book at the end of the pier....hmm....? hehe. You won't get that book until you visited one of the prison ages and come back. Then you'll see an 'event' happen and then the book will be available at the pier. Good luck.
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 07:06 AM

rain2...I figure out how to use the rock ship and was able to get to the other side..was able to pull the lever for the big star wheel, to be able to get or the rock ship wouldn't move, I am looking at the hints in the game and had to make sure I have 36 lights in the book like circut, had to shut off some to make 36...Okay now I am sitting in the spider chair and everything is lit..

Have to figure out how this works..looking at the journal page..

Boy do we need a lot of patience in this game, and let me say, you need a little push to get you moving..Like identifing where you are, and what this thing is and what it does...

Liz-got to get some zzzzzzzs..until tomorrow..

Thanks rain2, you push help me understand a bit more..
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 08:33 AM

Jenny, pls don't cry - you have to visit the prison ages before you'll be able to travel to Serenia from the pier.
Posted By: Dawna

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 08:57 AM

I am feeling so dumb right now...

I have finished the crystal viewer...gone down to the lower level.

I CANNOT find Yeesha's bedroom..!!!!!! And...I want to do that BEFORE I link to the prison ages..!!!

Can anyone help me out here..??
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:01 AM

Yeesha's bedroom is situated on the lower level of the house - to get where you have to go to Katherine's bedroom (one with the fireplace), go past it and pull the lever on the edge from where you can see lights of the lower deck of the house. It's quite dark where, but you should find the lever. When the bridge comes and you can visit Yeesha's bedroom etc.
Posted By: Dawna

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:14 AM

Thanx Marty...

Do you mean I have to find a lever inside the fireplace...?....because I couldn't find one..?

I've done the fireplace puzzle...but it takes me down to where the linking books are.

I seem to be confused..?

I found the kitchen...assuming I will find the bedroom soon
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:28 AM

housewife i am stuck with the chair you mentioned that you have 36 lights on what lights do you mean? do you mean the lights on those control panels? cuz when i sit in the chair the handle goes back off even though I switched it on
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:47 AM

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Thanx Marty...

Do you mean I have to find a lever inside the fireplace...?....because I couldn't find one..?

I've done the fireplace puzzle...but it takes me down to where the linking books are.

I seem to be confused..?

I found the kitchen...assuming I will find the bedroom soon
No, no, no - it's not inside the fireplace - it's outside the house right behind the elevator. But if you've managed to find the kitchen, when the Yeesha's bedroom is the room to the left with chess set and bookshelf
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:49 AM

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housewife i am stuck with the chair you mentioned that you have 36 lights on what lights do you mean? do you mean the lights on those control panels? cuz when i sit in the chair the handle goes back off even though I switched it on
If the handle goes back all the time it means that you have turned on more than 36 conductors.
Check their number once again (29 - the place where you can go with your ship, 5 - near the docks and 2 - up the ladder).
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:20 AM

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Check their number once again (29 - the place where you can go with your ship, 5 - near the docks and 2 - up the ladder).
You can have 7 near the docks and none up the ladder too. The critical figure is exactly 36 lights.

However, once you're down there, what do you do at the bottom of the lift (where you've got the three cable pulls - when you're hanging out of the bottom of the spire!)

Gremlin
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:24 AM

Gremlin - turn 1st wheel 3 times, 2nd - 2 times and 3rd - 6 times. When go up one level and play some music.
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:44 AM

huh in the hint system it says you have to turn the 1st wheel 4 times 2nd 3 times and last 7 times...

and when i look at the slots i can only see one blue kristal...
Posted By: marty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:56 AM

That's right Adventuregamegirl20, but the wheels stand in position "one" already smile That's a dirty trick from Cyan, I guess.
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:30 PM

rain2,I peeked. laugh After finding the ones connected to the fireplace puzzle,it seemed there should be one here too? Actually,it seemed like the perfect place for a Ki marker. wink
Thanks for nudge.
Viz
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:33 PM

I have spent enought time in the fireplace. When one has just one square left, where is the best area to be at? In a corner? In the center? I need some strategy pointers here.

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Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 12:43 PM

I just remembered that Yeesha had a blue stone at her neck in the cave drawing in the Cleft in Uru. That must be the necklace. So I guess she gets the necklace back!

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Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:18 PM

Hi to all, What a game!!!!!!

I'm in with Joanies : the fire place puzzle :

a hint of somekind will be appreciated....

Got to go elsewhere.

Thanks.

Chiefette.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 01:58 PM

gremlin, I think Marty answered your question. For info, there are 7 documents lying around Spire from Sirrus. You should take pics of them all because it seems we have an endless roll of film.

In these docs you'll find clues as to the correct tuning of the cables (via the gears). Marty makes a good point about the slot position on the gears... you must recognise that when you get there, you are already in position #1 on all three gears (i.e., there isn't a position 0).


Dadguy
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:14 PM

thank you marty!

I have to say I like revelation more than uru
playing with a keyboard is not my fave thing give me some point and click! wink
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:14 PM

JoanieS and Chiefette, I initially had trouble with the fireplace puzzle. But, after getting to the end with one spot left to light, I reset the puzzle and just LOOKED at the arrangement. At that moment I could see that all of the lighted spots were easy to illuminate with just 7 clicks.

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Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:43 PM

If you would like to post your impressions of Myst IV in a mini-review format, I've opened up a thread just for this purpose in the Reviews Forum . The diversity of viewpoints in a collection of mini-reviews is extremely helpful. Assist people who are considering purchasing the game by sharing your thoughts.

Thanks!
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:46 PM

I am stuck trying to solve the crystal puzzle. Very confused by some older postings. One said something about the colour and place # for shape. Then another said this was wrong and to copy the picture from the book in Atrus' bedroom. Please clarify for me. Thx. duh woozy help
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:54 PM

GeeGee, that is correct, copy the picture from the book, it tells you exactly the color and shape and position of the cystals..

Liz--for example, there are different shapes for color red, and the same goes for the other colors..

Liz
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 02:55 PM

GeeGee, once you get power up and the roof open and antenna aimed, you will be able to enter the crystal symbols into the viewer. The diffuiculty with this puzzle is that the pictures in the books don't always look exactly like the crystal symbols in the machine. In fact, two of the tall crystals (the ones with twin spires on them) can look very much alike.

So, to allieviate us from this ambiguity, some have posted solutions by noting the color and position of the slider (the slider is what you use to change the crystal symbol shape). When I am frustrated by a puzzle, I like a direct spoiler type of solution like this.

So, go ahead and enter the symbols and colors per the book. If you still have no image, you might try referring to the other solution using the slider positions.

Hope this helps.

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:00 PM

okay set the gears at there position, noting that one is already in position...now going back up to the keyboard slider...I have a question here..once you play the first frequency, do I press the left blue button and play the second set of tunes, and so on?

Liz
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:12 PM

Liz,

Some SPOLIERS here...


OK, you are at the Spire spider chair, about to play the frequencies to vibrate the crystal-rocks. This is tricky, because it's timed... Some of the crystals vibrate for longer times, so they should be tuned first. You have to get all four vibrating (tuned) at once to move on.

So, once one rock is tuned, IMMEDIATELY move the same slider that your hand is grabbing to the next position... that is, there is no button to push between each tuning. Just get it vibrating, then move on quickly. You don't have to move the sliders starting from left to right..any order will work.

Hope this makes sense... good luck.

Dadguy
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:21 PM

Geez - I must be dumb! duh I got the crystals in the correct positions and got a picture on the viewer. But nothing is happening here? What is my problem here? Also see you are talking about a spider chair - where is that? Thx once again smile help woozy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:29 PM

No, you're not dumb.. on the contrary, you got the crystal symbols right! You'll just see a static picture of Spire and Haven on the viewer (and also of Serenia, if you load the crystal symbols from Yeesha's journal). There is nothing else to do with these images. There is value in entering the symbols from Atrus' journal (if you haven't done it yet), because that will connect you to the age (Rime) where Atrus' is now, and he will speak to you.

Yes, I noted in my opening sentence above that Liz was in the age of Spire. You can worry about that later when you get there. There are folks at all different places in the game following this Quest, so it can be confusing...

Dadguy
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:32 PM

Thanks so much Dadguy - will review Atrus' journal for clue about symbols to connect to Rime. Really appreciate your kindness and help. happydance happydance
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:45 PM

Is there a way to reset the gate puzzle? I have tried closing it, but it doesn't seem to work.
thanks
Viz
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 03:48 PM

DADGUY,thanks for the hint.

I did not look at the answer : I'll try those 7 clicks first.

I was sure we had to click so that all spots had to be illuminated, but I did not see it like you did.

A good day

Chiefette.
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:04 PM

Thanks again for all the help regarding the power.

In reading the thread I saw some blurbs on lining up the antenna. I turned on the antenna and have been trying to line up to stars I saw outside the opening of the dome. Am I on the right track or do I have to do anything at all?

As far as the crystals I am having a heck of a time matching the last three due to similarity. Are there clearer pictures other than the journal? I plugged away until the early morning hours.

This is such a beautiful game. I don't think I've ever played a game that is so detailed. Wonder how much code went into writing this.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:06 PM

Viz,

You are talking about the gate puzzle in Haven, right? With the wooden gate and puzzle on the left of it?

I could not find a way to reset this. I read in another forum that there was no way to reset it. If this is so, then you'll have to figure out the puzzle like I did (by thinking it out). So, start by understanding how the lock works:

- You must get the sliders (top and bottom ones) completely off of the little silver buttons. Then, once this is done and the sliders are no longer blocking the silver buttons, you flip the latches onto the buttons, gate opens!

You can manuever left and right by flipping the latch up and down. Experiment and you'll get there.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:09 PM

Rock, as near as I can tell, all you have to do is sit in the chair, click the button to turn it toward the roof viewer gadget, then click the button on the upper right to turn on the antenna. I never did any actual "aiming" and it seems to work just fine.

But, the sky viewer is kind of cool to play with...

Dadguy
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 04:52 PM

Once again Dadguy you came to my rescue smile Okay, I got Atrus to speak to me - but since I don't hear well, I'm not sure what he said. Think he told me to go to his bedroom? and check out the books there? via fireplace? Anyhow, am going to try that out next. Thanks again for all your help! happydance
Posted By: girlgeek

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 05:23 PM

Still can't fly the rock ship. I'm consider starting over back at the linking books to Spire and Haven and turning around and going back to explore Yeesha's bedroom and all, which I failed to do before I left Tomahna. Can I DO that?

I'll just go back to the save I have at the linking books, I guess.

Heck...it is so beautiful here, I don't even mind return to a save that far back from where I am! LOL
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 06:24 PM

Girlgeek,

I presume you read and understood what I was saying in my spoiler on page three of this Quest, right? So, I will assume that the problem you are having is figuring out HOW to get the power levels to "2-lights" on the upper control panel and "7-lights" on the lower control panel, correct?

I can tell you that I started on the upper control panel and just kept sliding the slider to the right, then back to the middle, then right again, then back to the middle, then right again. I believe that each time I did this back and forth procedure, it added another light to the 4 power lights at the top. When I had two lights lit, I then went down and did a similar procedure on the lower control panel until I got all seven of those lit. Then the rock ship will fly. I think that by moving the slider right then back to middle ADDS power. I think that moving the slider left then middle reduces power... but I am not sure about this.

Good luck!

Dadguy
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 06:34 PM

GeeGee, what Atrus said was to go to his bedroom and on his desk, open the panel at the top and then press the symbol right below it. This will access two journals--be sure to take pictures of the crystal arrangements in them...
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 06:35 PM

stuck in haven

I cannot find the fifth totem symbol, the fruittree, achenars country home and the lakehouse
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 06:36 PM

help help help

My eyesight is very poor and I can't make out the titles on the chart and on those books well enough to distinguish quite a few of them, so I don't know which ones to push when.

Could someone please give me a flat-out spoiler on those books... thanks
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 06:55 PM

Jenny,

You are referring to the Bookcase puzzle in Yeesha's bedroom, I presume?

If, so...here you go:

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solution: number the books 1 - 8 on top row and 9 - 16 on bottom row.

Click books in this order: 12, 6, 8, 3, 14.

The bookcase will slide open and the dock is accessible.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 07:02 PM

Adventuregamegirl20,

Your description is too vague for us to help. I know it's easy to get turned around and walk in circles in the jungle (everything looks the same, right?), but you just have to keep exploring. You will need to find your way thru a wooden gate with a puzzle to find one of the totems. Plus, there is a hard to find path for another (you need to grab and pull some bushes left and right to open the path), so look for a "grab" icon on some bushes along the side of a path. If I remember correctly, the bushes were yellow.

Tot ziens,

Dadguy
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 07:59 PM

Apologies Jenny - it's you I should have thanked for "hearing" what Atrus said. Does one need to go back to the crystal viewer for anything else after hearing Atrus? thumbsup
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 08:08 PM

That's ok, GeeGee--with a thread this long it's a wonder that anyone can keep straight who's helping who! lol

As for the viewer, since I've found pictures of three sets of crystals, there might be more use for it, but I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm not very far ahead of you...
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 08:44 PM

Jenny--

Book SPOILER in Yeesha's room:
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Books: 12, 6, 8, 3, 14
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 08:53 PM

Thanks dadguy, I was getting a bit confused with the tunning, I have the right sequences but didn't know if I had to bring down the sliders, for the next set of tunes..

okay, I going to give it a try..I think I understand what you saying, lets hope I do...

Liz
Posted By: msblue

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:09 PM

I am further behind than most of you but I have solved all the puzzles and have the journals and the crystal codes for Spire and Haven. I put in Haven's in the viewer but how do I get there? I am at a complete loss...also how do I get to Serenia? Where are the linking books? do I have to physically have to have them? if so where do I find them......thanks for any help to a slow poke....but I am enjoying the exploration of the graphics....
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:22 PM

In haven - I have all the symbols i need but to lower the bridge i have to put them in certain order and to get to know that order you have to go to a house near a lake but I cannot find a house near the lake
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:26 PM

Msblue-- Did you solve the fireplace puzzle? If so, you should have gone down in the fireplace elevator and seen the underwater car holding the 2 linking books to Spire and Haven. Once you open the car and get inside you throw a switch and the car rotates and opens up the linking books. I'm messing around in Spire (left book) and would love to have company.

Let me know if this helps or if you need more specific info.

Jayne
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:40 PM

msblue,

Don't worry about the pace. If some of us are ahead of you, we can still remember the other ages and hopefully can help.

Jayne has it right.. solve the fireplace puzzle to get access to the downstairs linking room. There you'll find a round capsule with books for Spire (left) and Haven (right). Notice when you get into this linking book capsule that you have a nice view of Yeesha's dock across the water... remember this view when you return from one of these ages. There is an interesting video clue when you return.

Dadguy
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:43 PM

does anyone here know the right order to lower the bridge?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:47 PM

Adventuregamer,

Haven drawbridge puzzle:

I think the order is determined by the document in the "hunting lookout". This is the elevated hut that has the view of the totem that is covered by the little monkey creatures. There is a document that shows footprints of the various creatures.

I used the in-game hints for this which says:

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Hope that helps...

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:49 PM

msblue,

One other thing about the viewers. There really is not much to do with the images of Spire and Haven and Serenia.. just pretty pictures (unless there is something later in the game!). There is some value in hearing from Atrus from Rime via the imager.

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 09:54 PM

keyboard music tunes, is way to hard...I don't know if I am doing it right...

When I get the first set, and the slider is up, can I go slide back down to set the other set of tunes...

Possible Spolier here

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Is this the right sequence

6-12-4
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maybe I have the sequence wrong..

What I am trying to say when I slide the first set
6-12-4 to set the second set, could I slide down the slider all the way and set the second, or can I slide up and down? I hope someone understands what I am trying to saw..becuase sometimes when you ajust the sets you don't have enough room to set the other set to go up..

Liz
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:13 PM

Liz,

Spire - tuning the crystals:

Yes this was the most difficult one for me because of the timed nature. You have the order correct! Think of it this way:

- for the first set of three slider settings (6-12-4), the crystal will be "tuned" the moment you get that third slider on "4" and release it.

- what worked fastest for me was to then immediately re-grab the slider and drag it from "4" to "7" which is what the right-side slider needs for the second crystal tuning.

- then I jumped to the center slider and moved it from "12" to "1" (side note: this is a tricky one because you want to drag it all the way to the bottom, but be carefull...it is possible to pull the slider down BELOW the "1". The same is not true for the "12"s... you can shove the slider all the way to the top and it will lock on the "12"s). The the left slider, etc....

See what I mean? The moment the crystal is tuned and vibrating just move right on the the next settings... you have to be fast, because you need all four crystals vibrating at the same time to solve the puzzle.

Good luck,

Dadguy
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:13 PM

I got a little behind. Decided to update driver and reinstall since I got that message. Which meant replaying everything and then on top of it all I still got the message (have the ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256) Not having any problems so I guess I won't worry about. Just my anal personality at work. Anyway, I've got the power, fireplace and crystal done. Haven't visited any ages yet because I'm not sure if I should. Can I access Yeesha's bedroom now? Or do I have to go to an age. I haven't found it yet but if it's available now I'll look some more...
Thanx- Margie
PS amazing thread- great to see everyone enjoying this game. I love it so far. Don't know what it is about the Myst games that set them apart but hope we don't have to wait so long for the next one.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:18 PM

Margie, you can explore a little. It's so beautiful in Tomahna at night. Look around the living quarters and visit Yeesha's bedroom. Read all of the books and play with the stove in the kitchen. Click the necklace whenever you hear that music cue when viewing objects.

When you are ready, head to Spire or Haven.

Dadguy
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/04/04 10:36 PM

ok i still don't get it hmmm i looked at the hintsystem it sais that down by the yachthut there is a rolled up piece of paper and there should be a pyramid with footprints on it but the piece of paper shows something diferent and even if it had the footprints i dont know to what animals they belong to
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 12:58 AM

Thanks dadguy, you answered my question right on the nose..

What I was doing was on the middle when it was on 12, I was bring it down all the way and going back up to 1, and the same with the others...

now, I hope I got a better understanding...

Let you know if i get it..Liz
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 02:08 AM

I got it, I got it...Finally, been on this for 2 days now..Finally finished with this age..

Thank you so much dadguy, you help me a lot with this one...Now I some where in a jungle, with a boat that is standing half way up in the ground, and something surprised me...What world is this?
Posted By: philby

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 02:14 AM

Dadguy, on the spire spider chair tuning the crystals, will anyhting happen once I tune the 1st crystal = 6,12,4 ?....like a tone or something or you just keep moving on to the next sequence????
tks
Paul
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 02:39 AM

Philby, the crystal just shakes. Unfortunately, it shakes a little when you get close (like, one off of the correct setting), so you have to be diligent to get it on the right numbers. There are no lights or tones to tell you it is "tuned". If you move on to the next crystal and the last crystal still vibrates, then that means you hit the code properly.

Have fun!

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 02:53 AM

Liz,

Yay!!!!! It feels good, eh??

You are now in Haven. This is the prison of Achenar. He's a scary guy too.

Go ahead and explore the shipwreck. That's a good place to start. Achenar lived there for a while.

Quest on!

Dadguy
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 03:35 AM

Geesh, I should have paid more attention to my science classes. woozy

I saw the blurb on the power in Spire. I found 2 power supplies and am assuming they both need to be set in order for the ship to fly.

The one power supply is confusing. Thats the one you go down the hole for quite a ways before dumping out on a platform that faces the building in the telescope. Do I have to have all the lights lit. I got so far and the thingy opened up and a partial track that looks like a roller coaster came out. Not all the lights were lit on the panel so I thought I had more to do. Any comments?

The other thing I didn't do was press the button to get the 2 journals in Atrus' bedroom. slapforehead Does anyone think it is worth going back?
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by rockingrjranch:
The other thing I didn't do was press the button to get the 2 journals in Atrus' bedroom. slapforehead Does anyone think it is worth going back?
I haven't gotten far enough to answer your first questions, but the journals in Atrus' bedroom contain two more pictures of crystals. Putting them into the viewer will get you pictures from two ages--whether or not that is all it will do, I don't know yet...
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 04:33 AM

Rock, read my post on page 3 of this Quest for more info on the power levels for the Rock Ship.

Dadguy
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 04:45 AM

That's pretty much where I am too Skippidy--spooky place, isn't it? In my wandering around, I've found a panel that completely baffles me!!! But it's going to have to wait until tomorrow, because I have some other stuff to do yet tonight...
Posted By: Adventuregamegirl20

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 09:57 AM

rain2 since you have finished Haven can you help me with the bridge I don't know to what animals the symbols belong to I am only sure of the mangree symbol
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 02:43 PM

Adventuregamegirl,

Haven Drawbrdge puzzle:

I can help you here. You had asked before and I gave you some hints. Sounds like you need more help.

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The Mangee is four triangles, 12:00, 3:00, 6:00, 9:00.
The Karnak is two triangles at 12:00, 6:00.
The Zephyr is two squiggley white globs with a diagonal "S"-like line between them.

How do you like that description for the Zephyr?

Have fun.

Dadguy
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 04:23 PM

help Stranded in the jungle, covered in bug bites and leeches from the swamp. Thanks goodness for the fruit or I would be weak from hunger. I am looking for the Mangee village. Could some kind Boomer give me a staring point and some visual references?

thanks
Viz
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 04:36 PM

Been through Haven and slugging my way through Spire. How do you get back to the linking books in Spire if one wants to re-visit Tomahna before finishing Spire?
Posted By: rain2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 04:56 PM

Just go back up the stairs and you'll see the linking book in that blown-up prison. If you just got there, I don't think there's a way till you get the elevator up and running, if I'm not mistaken. If you do enough snooping after completing a few of the puzzles, you'll find a way to get back up those stairs. I just can't remember the exact directions at this point. =)
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 07:07 PM

JoanieS,

I think I was able to ride the elevator (the one that is opposite the spider chair, and the same one that is available from the garden/living quarters level) all the way up to the level where you can retrace your way to the top of the stairs and link out. I never actually walked up, but I rode the elevator to that level. Try that.

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 07:27 PM

Viz, the best way I can tell you is...Start at the shipwreck and take the route straight until you get to a left path, and keep on that path, you will see the mangree all over the place, on trees, and when you hit a dead end, move your cursor down over the red grass, you can move some of that grass over to the side, I think you have to do it twice..

this is the best description I can give you..since I am lost looking for the creature puzzle, and the camoudile puzzle..

In the hint system has a map of Raven..see if you can follow it..

Liz
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 07:42 PM

Liz, Thanks so much, I know exactly where you are talking about. happydance Since they are like monkeys,I was looking in the trees.
Hint: to find your two puzzles, cross the bridge.

Viz
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 08:35 PM

Thanks viz, solved the puzzle to cross the bridge, now I am at mangree puzzle..trying to figure out how many times to turn these wheel, found the sketches or the mangree, don't understand what are they for..

Anyone been here, a little push would be nice..

How much is 1.5 seconds? Looking at the hint in the game?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 09:14 PM

Liz,

Haven Mangree/Camoudile puzzle:

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There are four Mangrees, each with their own "call" which consists of two tones. There are pictures of each one with it's call code indicated. The top row is the first tone, and the second row is the second tone. A short dash in column one would mean you turn the left wheel for .5 seconds. A long dash in column two would mean you turn the center wheel for 1.5 seconds.

Another timed one... you have to be really quick with the final three tone signal which causes the Mangree on the far left to toss the poison berries before the Camoudile gets free from the pit! Took me about four tries!

Good luck!

Dadguy
Posted By: Dawna

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by rain2:
Just go back up the stairs and you'll see the linking book in that blown-up prison. If you just got there, I don't think there's a way till you get the elevator up and running, if I'm not mistaken. If you do enough snooping after completing a few of the puzzles, you'll find a way to get back up those stairs. I just can't remember the exact directions at this point. =)
Of course...if you've enabled the "zip mode" feature...you can zip there in a flash..!!
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 11:15 PM

Finally I get to understand this puzzle..but what I don't understand is when I got the camoudile in the pit and I press the 3 final tones, the mangee doesn't come out...Is the elderly(white one) suppose to be in the leftmost nest, or does any mangree can be there..I been trying this for about 1hr now and when the camoudile is in the pit, and turn the wheels to 3 tones no one comes out to throw the berries at him..

For example if I have the(white one) in the leftmost nest ready to throw him the berries, and turn the 3 wheels to the tones, he doesn't come out, and I do it again, and he comes out, by that time the comoudile gets out..and I have to start again with the set up...I hate this one:(

I got a map of the 5 nest, and who is in each of them, and get a set up, so he can chase the mangree to the point when he falls in the pit and have one of the mangree in the leftmost nest to be ready to throw him the berries ,but they just don't come out, maybe I have the last 3 tones wrong...This is the tones I am using...

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Liz
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/05/04 11:29 PM

Liz, those are the correct tones. I made the mistake several times of going from wheel 3, then wheel 2 and 1 instead of 3 to 1 to 2, but you have it right.

Here's what I finally did, I chased him around till the white mangree was in the left nest, then used only the other three tones to chase him until he is pitted. That way, the white mangree was ready to toss the berries.

Hope you get it. The only reason I saw for the mangree not to react was that I made a long-tone too short or slipped with my hand. The short tones seem to work with just a little beep, even less than a half second,

Dadguy
Posted By: philby

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 01:07 AM

Durn crystal spire puzzle.....nuttin shakes, nuttin does nuttin for me....move the 1st one up 6 notches, 2nd one all the way up to 12 then the 3rd one to 4....(left to right)..nuttin happens at all....when going on to the next series 3 - 1 - 7 do I move the knob all the way down then up to 3 etc?....I am an old **** and my hearing aint that good...even with my hearing aides in.....as long as all the light are on, I have not missed anything have I?
Paul
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 01:48 AM

Oh Oh I've missed a clue somewhere and I dont know where. I'm in a jungle hut/blind looking at monkey-critters playing on a totum-pole. In front of me are three siren-horns. I suspect that I must play the horns in some sequence to rid the 'critters from the totem. If this is the case, where would I find this clue.
So far I've been able to open the wooden gate (puzzle) and have seen four other totems (and the 4 symbols) in my travel. I believe I need to know the 5 symbols to open the draw-bridge.
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 04:24 AM

Pere, here's a small hint:

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If you've read Achenar's journals, you should have read some interesting things about how the monkeys communicate--you could try pretending you're a monkey, but you'll need to listen to their language a bit first...

On a similar note, I seem to have "finished" all of Haven having only found four totems total....I still don't know where the fifth one is. I found one by the monkeys, one in the grassland, one in the swamp, and one behind the wooden gate, but the fifth one seems to have gone on a vacation... duh
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 05:23 AM

Philby,

Spire Crystal Tuning puzzle:

Have you read my posts on page 11 and 14 of this Quest topic which covered this puzzle? They should help you.

But if you are setting the sliders to 6-12-4 and are getting no vibration, then you must be setting it incorrectly. It's hard to see, but you should have the 6th green bead visible in the slider hole. That is, 5 green beads beneath the slider, and the sixth is on the slider. Try sliding it up one more to see if there is any vibration. It's easy to see the crystal vibrating even without the magnifier. This is a hard puzzle.

Hope this helps.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 05:28 AM

Pere, I can't remember where I found the clue. I thought it was there in the hut on a piece of paper. Try the in-game hints. You have to play three tones I think.. some short, some longer, then they'll scatter.

Yes, you need the 5 totem symbols and their order must be correct for the drawbridge. There are solutions for it in this Quest topic. The totem that most seem to be missing is the one on the beach near the shipwreck.

Dadguy
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 05:54 AM

Hi again,
Slight spoilers ahead if you haven't got to Serenia
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I have opened the first door to the workshop and am playing with the marbles. I suspect there are some other things I need to do.
I was told the protectors would see me after they had finished praying. They have been sitting there doing nothing for what seems ages now. I can't interact with them in any way.
I have been inside the big white flower and there are 4 totems. Touching them gives me a memory. There seem to be 4, repeating randomly.
Upstairs, I can lie down on a stone slab, but do nothing. Inside the flower itself, I get a closeup and thats all.
Other than those two places (the flower and the prayer room), there seems to be nothing else to do (at least that I know of)
Can someone give me a nudge please (my hint system is bugged and you can't read most of the text). I assume I must be able to speak with the Protectors somehow.
Ta
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 05:59 AM

Finally got him in the trap and was able to get the white manpree to throw him with berries, and down he went..after 20 or so tries, got the white manpree to throw him with berries but he didn't go down, so kept on trying until he went down..

Moving on..I am at serenia, been to the memory chamber, placed my hands on the faces...What to do next, have to explore some more..

Thanks rain2, for the push..

Liz
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 10:59 AM

Well I have dreamed about as much as I can take.
Is there a strategy for the dream puzzle?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 03:21 PM

Flotsam,

Serenia is a very cool age. I found that various prtectors would speak to me in different places as I left and came back numerous times. For me, the protectors in the chamber didn't awaken until after I closed the last water gate down by the workshop.

Dreamworld strategy: SPOILERS!!!

If you click on the colored floating dots you will notice a pattern to the color changes. All colors change in the same order! I can't remember what the order is, but for fun let's say its Red, Purple, Blue, Cyan, Green, Yellow, White (I KNOW that the last two colors are Green and Yellow). So any time you see a yellow dot, ONE click will turn it white every time! Green dot; TWO clicks turn it white. You have to get all of the colors White "to achieve unity". The only problem is you cannot go back and forth between only two colors... must use three in a triangle as a mimimun, or it will not change the colors. It is hard because you cannot see beyond a limited field of view so you can't see where any remaining colored dots are!! But, rest assured... when you get the LAST dot to turn white, the dream speaker will immediately tell you that you've succeeded. If he doesn't speak to you, it means that there is AT LEAST one colored dot remaining that needs to change to white. This means that you'll have to make your way left and right and up and down turning dots that are already white back to colored so you can travel around. Know what I mean?

Good luck,

Dadguy
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 05:03 PM

Demos: Thanks for the help. I'll study the monkeys/Mangree calls a little closer. Interestingly though is that I came across a mangree lying on the pathway in some sort of pain. Another mangree flipped what looked to be an apple onto the path. I was able to roll this fruit closer to the animal. But it just laid there whithering in pain. I left but when I came back the animal was gone and a bite had been taken from the fruit. I'm not sure what this was all about or if indeed it has anything do with anything at all. Its just that this was so unexpected. I could never get that close to any of the other denizens. They simple would turn tail.

Your 5th totem is in the ship area.

Regarding the journal, I guess I should have read it a little more closer. But I used the amulet to have the actor read it. And although I followed the text I was really absorbed in his dramatic oration. It was really quite something.
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 05:49 PM

Demos and Dadguy:

Thanks again. I finally got rid of the monkeys from the totem:

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Now I'm off to try the draw bridge.
Posted By: philby

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 11:12 PM

TY dadguy, but I found out that I did not have the cables tuned correctly....I wasn't counting the 1st notch as one...once that was done then I could see the crystals vibrating...I was really beginning to pull my hair out!.....anyway, I am off across the stepping stones...stand by, I will need ya again I am sure....
tks again
Paul
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/06/04 11:44 PM

Hi all, have been following your posts on Myst IV and have (I think) completed the first phase of the game. I would very much appreciate it if someone could tell me if I have done everything before I go down the fireplace, etc.

Did the crystals and talked to "THE MAN". Got full power, did the fireplace, saw the two books, did the bookcase puzzle, set in the telescope seat (am I supposed to do something there?) I might have goofed because I freed the fireflys. Would be nice if could get a list of all things to do in this area. Thanks
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 01:28 AM

I am at Haven and explored the little I could. Went to area to left of cell place and can't go any further. Can't get out to shipwreck. Help! Thanks in advance. duh
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 03:00 AM

Jeepers, I couldn't even begin to give you a list of things in this section of the game, but one thing you didn't mention--did you find Yeesha's diary? It's in her room.

Did you also find her necklace, and are you clicking on it every time it lights up?

Don't worry about going down the fireplace though--you can always go back to these areas at any time...
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 03:57 AM

Hi Jenny - yes I did find Yeesha's diary and also the necklace and have clicked on it every time it lights up. But on Haven just outside the wrecked jail cell is all I'm able to go. Clicked on crab and moved stone and used necklace on shiny object there. That's all I can do here. What else should I be able to do here? Appreciate any help. duh woozy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 04:02 AM

GeeGee,

Haven:

The one side is a dead end (until the very end of the age...this is where you end up). I can't explain why you are having trouble going the other way. There IS a path. I started at the shipwreck.

Hope you find the path.

Dadguy
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 04:15 AM

GeeGee, I'm doing this from memory, but:

Assume the entrance to Haven is to the South.

Directly to the North by about 2 screens is a dead end with some rocks and a crab-like thing. There's also a crystal here.

In between those two areas (South of the dead end by one screen) is a short path heading East, dead-ending in some water. Finally, to the Northeast of this same spot, there's a tunnel lodged in the cliff face. You need to head through the tunnel.

Well, that's more or less how it works. luck
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 12:47 PM

Those darned monkeys. I can't get the hang of the monkey & mean beast & pit puzzle... I think I must be missing a sound pattern or two.

I've got one for the front right monkey - but all he wants to do is sleep.

The middle monkey looks out, then goes away again, and any other monkeys are silent.

Whilst the beast stays fixed at the foot of the front right nest.

duh

Gremlin
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 01:39 PM

gremlin, this is a tough one...It took me about 20 tries to get this one right..

each monkey has a sound pattern, which actually is their names...

There are clues around the hut for each monkey calling, some are well hidden, so make sure you look at everything, and touch everything..

One of these monkeys have to be in the proper nest, and when you do find the sound patterns for each monkey you have to be fast...

I give a hint, the proper monkey has to be in the leftmost nest, that is where the berries are at so he can throw it to the camoudile when he falls in the pit..

Once you got the pattern for each monkey, you have to call out the monkeys, so they could leave their nest to the nest next to them(they will run across the rope to the next empty nest and the camoudile could chase it back and forth until he falls in the pit, once he is in the pit, you have call the monkey(his pattern) to come out and throw him with the berries while his is in the pit..The pit has that plant that paralizes the camoudile not for long, so you have to be quick in calling the monkey in the leftmost nest to throw him with the berries..

If you want to know which monkey is needed to be the leftmost nest..Let me know..

Hopes this helps a bit..
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 03:28 PM

Hi to all.

Dadguy gave me the pages to look for some help on the tuning puzzle in Spire.

But I'm missing the upper right crystal and still do not understand where the numbers come from.

Please help.

Thanks.


Chiefette.
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 06:10 PM

Well I finally got through Haven. (Boy I've got to get me a new mouse though. I found the exactness needed for that last puzzle to be pretty wicked... At least for me, my mouse and my heavy hand). While Linking back to "T" I saw in my approach !!!!!! hmmm I better not tell. Anyway, I hadn't gone to Yeesha's room earlier and did so now. I wished I had read her diary earlier. It would have helped me to understand the "amulet-event-projection" that preceded the last puzzle in Haven.

Our Thanksgiving weekend is almost upon us and it looks like I'm going to fall behind a bit.
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Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 09:23 PM

Chiefette,

I think there are clues on all of the pages that Sirrus left around Spire. Look in drawers and on desks, etc.

This is a tough puzzle because you have to be fast and precise. I found that when I put the slider on, let's say, #6, it tended to slip down to 5... so I got into the process of aiming a little high on the green beads before releasing the slider.

I am not sure what you mean when you say you are missing the upper right crystal. Do you mean that you do not know the tuning settings? I can't remember which setting is for which, but I know what the four settings are if you need them (and what order works best for tuning them). If you want to know, let me know. I think it is already listed in the topic somewhere also.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 09:25 PM

Gremlin, did Liz's advice help?

This is a tough one. I noticed that a couple times I got the mangree to throw the berry into the pit while the camoudile was still in it, but the berry takes a second to take effect and he got out in time. You have to be quick!

Dadguy
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 09:36 PM

Dadguy, thanks for helping.

When I'm sitting in the big chair where we tune the crystal, there are 4 holders of crystal on the left and right of the sliders.

Should there be a crystal in all of these holders?

If the answer is yes, Im missing one.

Chiefette.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 09:50 PM

I just took a wild ride up in an elevator from the location of the spider chair (after spending over 2 days on those %*!!!* crystals). Am I finally done with Spire??? Please say yes!

How I finally tuned the crystals: After I tuned each set I immediately pushed Escape and rested a bit. Then got mentally ready to tune the next set and then pushed Escape again. Took awhile but I finally got it done. I hope the rest of the puzzles are not as frantic as that one.

Thanks for your help.
Jayne
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 09:55 PM

Chiefette,

I remember that there were some with rocks and some with crystals. I was not aware that it was possible to get there without having all four. Maybe it's jsut hard to see.

I'll check to see if that's the case.

Jayne,

You are done with Spire if you got a picture of the medalion that was hanging on the corner of the elevator after you got on at the end. The medalion opens and you need to know the color arrangement for later.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 10:18 PM

Chiefette,

I just checked. There IS a crystal in that upper right slot. I remember this one. When you tune it you'll see that he used a chess piece (the knight) as the crystal in the upper right. When the piece is not tuned, the spring presses it to the right, so all you see is what looks like a metal base... but trust me, their is a crystal there shaped like a chess piece.

Dadguy
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 10:22 PM

I am s-o-o-o confused. woozy I am in Spire and have gotten (I think) the 3 power things to work. At least I am assuming they work. I am able to get around in the round thingy back and forth but have just spent the last three hours working on the power at the far island or whatever it is. I will call it the big power source. When I stepped back for a breather all the lights were lit so I assume ??? that I am done with the power? help
I need a glass of wine
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 10:23 PM

I'm in Serenia and ran into Achenar. He talked about his journal but I can't find it. help

thanks
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 10:42 PM

Rock, you are done with the power if you have 36 power lights and no more, no less! There is a power panel near the Rock Ship dock that when opened will show how many power lights total you have lit.

I had 29 lights from the floating island and 7 from the lower control panel (near the dock), so I had to go back upstairs to turn off the upper control panel to leave the power at exactly 36 lights.

TLC, as you walk from the entrance to the island (where you link in) walk straight past the bubble tree, past the first left and past the first right, past the wooden machine on the left till you get to the tree with the fluffy seeds falling. Turn right at that tree and go across the wooden walkway and go about two more clicks. Look on your right on that path and you should find a wooden box hidden in a large rock formation. Achenar's journal is in the box.

Hope this helps,

Dadguy
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/07/04 10:53 PM

Thanks dadguy. I will check it out. Is the power panel you are referring to the one that looks like a circuit card?
Posted By: philby

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 12:05 AM

I am on Serenia and supposedly there is a Journal of Achenars someplace in the Stone Forest. Where is it and do I really need it? I have diverted the water from the 1st sluice but have no idea where to go next. Please help me here?...Pretty please?
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Paul
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 12:41 AM

How I did the "slider/lock puzzle" I ignored timer, under enough pressure. I ignored vibes,got enough to do. I can't take time to count the notches,never make it. So: Made diagram of puzzle. Counted out notches, where slider should go. (ie. #10 lines up with the bottom of top left crystal) etc. Then drew arrows where ea. # goes. Then practised and memorized, only #2 and #3 cause #1 is set n' go; thanks to dadguy and #4 is slam dunk. Trouble with #5's, cause no visual connection. After hrs. n' days: success! Hope this helps someone.
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 12:42 AM

I think I may be going crazy. I only have 2 lights on one panel, 7 on another and no lights on the island. I still can go back and forth but can't do much with the chair or whatever it is. So, I am back to thinking something is not right. duh I have no lights lit on row 2 of the power panels either. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by philby:
I am on Serenia and supposedly there is a Journal of Achenars someplace in the Stone Forest. Where is it and do I really need it? I have diverted the water from the 1st sluice but have no idea where to go next. Please help me here?...Pretty please?
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Paul
Philby,

Dadguy wrote this earlier for me. "TLC, as you walk from the entrance to the island (where you link in) walk straight past the bubble tree, past the first left and past the first right, past the wooden machine on the left till you get to the tree with the fluffy seeds falling. Turn right at that tree and go across the wooden walkway and go about two more clicks. Look on your right on that path and you should find a wooden box hidden in a large rock formation. Achenar's journal is in the box."

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Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 01:54 AM

Rock,

Yes, the circuit board that you pull up and it opens like a book to reveal a circuit board. It shows lights from the Upper Control Panel on the top left, the Lower Control Panel on the lower left, and the Floating Island Control Panel on the right. Count the lights and make sure you have 36 and only 36.

I just read your last post. Maybe you started from an earlier save. I think you had told me that you had powered all 29 lights up from the island. Check that...maybe that's what happened.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 01:59 AM

Well done Skippidy!! We are getting lots of innovative ideas on that puzzle. I like the person who hit ESC after each change of the sliders so she could regain her composure and get ready for where the next move is (eliminates your memorization step).

Congrats!

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 03:20 AM

OK I got the game installed but cant play it. On the menu there is no play. The only play listed says Play (disk 2 disabled)what does this mean? I put in disk 1 and get the above menu. Read me,Uninstall Play (disk 2 disabled) and exit. How do I play the game? mad
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 05:09 AM

Dutch, that is really a technical problem--why don't you post it on Glitches and see if they can help you down there... luck
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by dogpenny:
OK I got the game installed but cant play it. On the menu there is no play. The only play listed says Play (disk 2 disabled)what does this mean? I put in disk 1 and get the above menu. Read me,Uninstall Play (disk 2 disabled) and exit. How do I play the game? mad
Put in Disk 2... the play button is on that one.

Gremlin
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 01:23 PM

Dogpenny,

Gremlin is right. The Disk 1 brings up a special menu with some extras on it, but the PLAY is disabled in the special menu that pops up. This is because the game needs DISK 2 to be in the DVD in order to play the game. Also, these menus take a longer than usual time to load, so be patient. Have fun.


Flotsam,

Glad to help. I looked back at what I wrote and I think I may have come pretty close to the order of the color changes, even though it was from memory. I preume you finally made it. The key is: Until you hear him say "You have completed the task" there is at least one more colored dot to be changed to white.

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 04:35 PM

Can I get the entire spoiler for the monkee mangree puzzle? The hint stystem in Myst it skips hints 5 and 6. Does anyone else have this problem? I have also noticed it skips words at the bottom of the page if there is 2 pages of hints. Thanks!!!
Posted By: katielou

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 05:39 PM

dadguy, thanks for the save, it worked fine but now i'm in catherine's study, clicked on the necklace, read her journal. now i'm suppose to go into the sunroom thru a door near by to go to atrius' study. there is a door next to catherine's desk. is this the right door i'm to use? if so it won't open. i've gone back thru everything i was suppose to do thinking i didn't touch something or read everything i was suppose to. help please? thanks. smile
Posted By: katielou

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 05:41 PM

on an added note.. i'm trying to get back to serenia ( part 2) to go to the irrigation device
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 08:16 PM

Wow - I really a long ways behind all you guys! I am in Haven and at the shipwreck. There is a crank which pulls a box up and a lever. Is there something that I need to do here? Thanks for any help you can give me. smile thanks
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 08:30 PM

You need to explore further around that area.

Gremlin
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 08:30 PM

GeeGee: If you mess around with the objects near your current location for a bit, you should be able to find a way to cross onto the shipwreck. There are a couple of things you should do there before exploring much further.


katie: I think what you're trying to do is unlock a door that you can use later to avoid having to go through the bookcase again.

When you came through the bookcase, there should have been (as I recall) a green door to one side leading to Catherine's study. There's also another door that you can reach. This door is locked, but you can unlock it by pulling a small lever on the door. If you then go through it, you'll be back in the power room (the one from which you first got the power running again).

This door used to be locked, but now you can go through it whenever you wish, making an easy way to get back to Serenia.

When I played, the book for Serenia seemed to move after being accessed once. At first it was on the ground outside Catherine's room, but afterwards it was always in Catherine's study. I'm not entirely sure why.

I don't recall another door in Catherine's study other than the entrance.
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 09:00 PM

Have explored around the shipwreck further. Discovered that the cannon balls can be moved. Tried moving all of them into crate and tried to crank it up, but too heavy. So removed one and then it went up. Also found a movable box inside where the crank wheel is. Moved it over and put all the cannon balls into it. Then I cranked the box up. It won't stay up though when I move out. What must I do now? Thanks again for all the help here. smile wave
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 09:03 PM

Katielou, I am not sure how you got there, or where you heard that you need to go to Atrus' study.

The problem we have sometimes is with terminology. Generally we agree that the room with the fireflies in the aquarium is Catherine's study. Atrus' study is on the other side of that door next to the firefly aquarium, but you can't get thru that door until you first unlock it from the other side. It's interesting to see Atrus' study, but it is not necessary to finish the game.

So, we need a little more info from you in order to advise.

Serenia should still be accessible from the book on the dock under Yeesha's room.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 09:07 PM

GeeGee, the box must have the right number of cannonballs in it to allow the lift to go up (remember to crank the rope each time you try). Then, when at the top you push the box off of the lift and it raises an access bridge to the shipwreck. Enter the shipwreck and explore. Lot's to see and learn!

Dadguy
Posted By: katielou

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 09:59 PM

this is according to the myst iv prima guide. after i rubbed the ring on the "snake" & poked him in the face he slithered off. then i touched the lever & i went flying to the cove with the linking chamber. inside was the linking book to serenia. i touched it & went there. after i got there i got out, the fireplace elevator to atrius & catherine's bedroom. did everything there i was suppose to do,went out on the balcony, took the elevator, set the lever to the center position, went thru the garden, then into catherine's study & read her journal. that's where i am now. according to the prima guide, there's a door nearby that goes into the sunroom & into atrius's study.
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 10:48 PM

Ah. katie, the door in that room is locked and needs to be unlocked from elsewhere. You'll want to explore the other buildings in the area and solve a puzzle or two to get there.
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 10:51 PM

Spire-slider-tuning-crystals:
O.K., I'll take the award for most dense. Have read each post re this puzzle at least 3 times. Since I can't get any crystal to vibrate in the slightest, am I in the right place to begin with?
In the spider chair, gears have been positioned, have gone up one level from the gears to a "console" that has in the center, 4 circles with a crystal in each. There are 3 antennae like thingys with 12 green circles around each between the 4 circles with crystals with two each of the four circles on either side of the 3 antennae array. Is this where I am supposed to be sliding the 6-12-4 etc. positions on the green circles of any one of the antennae? I can understand that I am missing accuracy on this and not winning but, after numerous tries, shouldn't I get some kind of movement out of any of those crystals inside the 4 circles?

edit: you can go in the sequence of 1-2-3, 3-2-1, 1-2-3, 3-2-1 hitting the antennae? I believe I am in the right spot doing the right thing, its just reading somewhere that when you got close to the right positioning, the crystals shake. Mine surely ain't shaking!!!!
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/08/04 11:00 PM

OK, Katielou. Now I've got it.

Demo is right, you have to unlock that door from the other side to get to Atrus' study. You don't NEED to go there, but it is a nice place to explore.

The linking book you used in Haven brought you back to Tomahna, not Serenia. Tomahna is where you started the game, as you know.

To get to Serenia, you have to go to the dock under Yeesha's room. That is where you'll find the Serenia book. After you first link in Serenia, you'll see a link book on the ground that will take you right back to Atrus' study in Tomahna. Then you can permanently unlock that door in Catherine's study so you can go back and forth. After you have explored Atrus' study, there is a link book there to take you back again to Serenia and work on that Age.

Have fun!

Dadguy
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:21 AM

JoanieS- This happened to me. It was because my gears were incorrectly set. The gears start out in the number 1 position. I thought they started at zero but they don't. Reset your gears and start counting again from 1.

This puzzle is a BEAR! Good luck.

Jayne
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:24 AM

Geez! I have tried and tried to get into the shipwreck. Got the platform to go up but can't get over onto the ship! Help me please! duh Thanks for your help here. smile
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:30 AM

GeeGee, Are you in Haven? Push the box with the cannonballs off of the elevator and a walkway will rise up. wave
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:32 AM

TLC - Did push the box off the elevator and the walkway appears - but can't go over to the ship - there is a gap. duh wave
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:33 AM

Were there cannonballs in the box? You need 2 in there. wave
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:38 AM

Pretty sure about the balls in the box. Will check the number and get back to you. Thx. happydance thumbsup
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:42 AM

Well - that didn't work. There are 2 boxes, one outside and I have 2 balls in it, and the one that can be moved - I put 2 balls in it as well. But still can't get onto the ship! How frustrating! I'm sure the answer must be quite simple - feel so stupid not to be able to do this. Hope you can give me more help once again smile
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:47 AM

GeeGee, I think I put 3 in the box to the left of the elevator. wave
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:55 AM

Well that didn't work either. Here's what I did - put 3 balls in box to left of elevator, 2 balls in box in elevator. Turn wheel to raise box outside elevator, turn and push box on elevator off, then pull lever. The elevator goes up. But when I go towards the ship, can only go one step forward. There is a section of the boardwalk missing here. What could be the problem here? Sure hope you can tell me what I should be doing. Many thx for your efforts helping me here. smile
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:59 AM

GeeGee, Raise the elevator before pushing the box off. luck
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 01:07 AM

Halleluha!! It worked finally! I had kept the box in the elevator before and pulled the lever, but nothing happened. Many thanks for helping me here. Will carry on until I get stuck again. Sure hope a complete walkthrough is done soon though. happydance happydance bravo
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 01:19 AM

Not very much to do on the ship that I could find. I saw a big bird creature. Raised the flag and took picture of it. Went down rope ladder and took picture of small cloth with butterflies on it, and used necklace on animal statue. That's all I could do. Is that it?
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 01:25 AM

GeeGee, Did you find Achenar's journal? wave
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 01:46 AM

No - saw book on table but the hand did not indicate I could do something with it. Also saw chest, but couldn't do anything with it either. So where is the journal?
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 01:50 AM

GeeGee, Its on his bed. There's a ladder on the level you started at and will take you to his bedroom. wave
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 01:59 AM

Found the journal! Hope that is all I need to do here. Guess I need to go to the rest of the place and deal with the monkeys etc. next? Cheers! Thanks again. bravo wave
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 02:14 AM

GeeGee,

Yes, I remember a gap (on the right of the walkway). I went right over it like it wasn't there.

First you go up to 2nd level, then after pushing the box off you'll see an annimation of a walkway rising into place. Then just look for the forward hand icon....

Unless TLC is onto something and you have the number of cannon balls incorrect.

EDIT: Oh, I see you figured it out. Yes, the box stays on the elevator till the second floor THEN gets shoved off. ALSO, there IS more to get besides the journal. There are clues in the unraveling of the sail (take a picture) and perhaps one other, although I am not certain.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 02:19 AM

JoanieS,

Sorry I missed your post... so many subjects.

Jayne is probably right that you are off by one on each gear.

And, yes... it is BEST if you go 123, then 321, etc., on the sliders. You will move faster if you do it that way and the game allows it. Read some of the other posts on this one for more advice.

Dadguy
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 02:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dadguy:

[b]EDIT:
Oh, I see you figured it out. Yes, the box stays on the elevator till the second floor THEN gets shoved off. ALSO, there IS more to get besides the journal. There are clues in the unraveling of the sail (take a picture) and perhaps one other, although I am not certain.

Dadguy [/b]
Dadguy, I missed the sail. duh
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 04:09 AM

TLC, do you want to know about it? If you like I can send you a screen capture. Like most of the maps and drawings in Myst, they are a little hard to read, but they have a purpose.

Wait ..sorry, I missed another post. GeeGee said she raised a flag and took a picture - that's probably the same thing I'm talking about. Plus she got the picture of the cloth and used the amulet on some things.... I think that's it.

Dadguy
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 05:26 AM

dadguy...I can see your real busy, so reply when ever possible.
I think it was you that mentioned your running this game on an XP with an ATI RADEON, as I am also. There was a ? on it in download, and said: "may have problems"
Well! everything is fine, except when I click load game, where, and save, exit; the time process for these seems slower and slower.
Is this cause my system can't handle this game as it progresses or is this normal for a game that is saving so much as you get into it.
And are you experiencing this also.?
PS I feel so sorry for sami, do you think theres a glitch in the game at that spot?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 05:36 AM

SKIPPIDY,

I have XP with a GE Force MX 420. But, I am experiencing the same response!!! When I hit ESC to get the main menu it takes a minute to give me the main menu. Then when I hit SAVE GAME, another minute... then when I choose a savename and hit SAVE, another minute (or more). It does seem to be getting slower and slower.

I'll experiment with this. It may have something to do with the fact that I have my graphics set to 1280 X 1024 for my normal desktop. But it really is annoying.

I have rebooted a couple times to try to "clear the memory", and sometimes it helps, but it is still slow.

I have a WinXP with 2.5GHz and 512 MB RAM.

Dadguy
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 06:13 AM

I also had that issue with slow menu load times. After starting the game or pressing escape, loading the main menu took over a minute. So did going to the save or load screens or saving a game. For some reason loading a game was pretty fast.

This is with an AIW 9700 Pro, 2.53GHz P4 and 1GB of RAM. I am, however, also running my desktop at a native resolution of 1280x1024. The game's set to run at a lower resolution, but maybe the desktop resolution has something to do with it?

I tried with and without antialiasing/anisotropic filtering, and saw no discernable difference. I also tried changing the game resolution. I haven't tried changing my desktop's native resolution, though...I'm running from an LCD monitor, so I try to change resolutions as little as possible.

I do notice that when I open task manager while Myst IV is running, it's often using almost my entire CPU (around 95%-99%).

After finishing the game, I haven't yet gone back to check out some of the areas I want to revisit. That's mostly because I'm tired of dealing with the horribly long load times every time I save...
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 12:16 PM

Spire tuning crystals:
No wonder!!!!! I was turning the gears wrong. Didn't even see how the gears relate to the antennae for positioning. At least, I have lots of practice for tuning on the antennae!!

Thanks you all!!!!
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 02:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dadguy:
TLC, do you want to know about it? If you like I can send you a screen capture. Like most of the maps and drawings in Myst, they are a little hard to read, but they have a purpose.
Dadguy
Dadguy, Thanks for the offer. :kiss: I wasn't too far ahead from there, so I went back to a previous save and saw the map and took a picture.

Now I'm back at the locked gate and stuck. If those hammer thingies are supposed to slide, I can't figure out how to do it. <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 04:37 PM

Spire-crystal tones: I am SO confused. It seemed like I got the frequencies in right. It looked like something metal extended out from the front of the console. Two black shapes appeared in the console area behind the antennae. Went forward into an area that has the Sirrus's journal describing where he discovered he had a sister. Went back to the spider chair and put the frequencies back in. Now, up above the spider chair, it is a brilliant white light. Is this normal?
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 04:46 PM

JoanieS -- When I got to this point I hadn't a clue what to do so I cheated and used the "In Game" Hint number 3. I was so tired of Spire by that time I just wanted out and I could not figure out what to do next.

Maybe someone else can give you a nudge but nudges didn't help me. You are only a few more steps from being out of there, if that's any consolation.

And congratulations for getting the tuning done correctly!

Good luck.
Jayne
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 05:24 PM

Thanks, Jayne. I wasn't even sure I had done the tuning right. So, its safe to save this game and keep on trucking!!!!
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 06:01 PM

I see from previous posts that people are talking about an in-game hint system. Where can I find this? Thanks smile
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 06:11 PM

You access it through the "options" section, GeeGee--go to "Game Options" and then the bottom icon "Help Map". There are three different levels of hints (using the three icons on the top of the hints page), so you can get as much or as little help as you want...
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 06:27 PM

Joanie--If you raised the spider chair console, crossed a black bridge in front of the chair, and were in an area with crystals in glass containers, then you were at the bomb making area.

I don't remember seeing anything about Sirrus having a sister.

Maybe someone else can comment. I hope your truck drives better than mine did at that point. smile

Jayne
Posted By: GeeGee

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 06:41 PM

Thanks Jenny for the help information. Am at a locked wooden gate in Haven and there seems to be a puzzle to the left. Have opened it and there are only two things that can be moved that I see. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated smile duh

I used the help option to figure out the gate puzzle! Found another totem and used necklace on stuff in mid lake. That's it. Now back to get those monkeys etc settled. Wish me luck!
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:27 PM

Hi, no one answered my question so I thought I would ask again. Could I get the spoiler for the mangree puzzle? The hint system in the game isn't working correctly. There are words missing at the bottom of the pages. And on this solve 5 and 6 are missing. Anyone else have this problem with the game?
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:35 PM

Dragonia, Is this puzzle in the lookout? With the 3 wheels?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:37 PM

Dragonia,

I didn't have a problem with the in game hints, but many other have reported that half a page is missing (reportedly due to video drivers that are not the latest). Problem is, many are reluctant to go back and look because it takes so much time.

For now, can you read the posts between Housewife and I on page 15 and 16 of this Quest topic? I think they will help.

If you miss getting him the first time (according to the ingame hints) then you'll have to try again, and the pattern of the in game hints won't work. So, you'll do well to read what we said and hopefully learn enough to solve it by understanding the basic logic. Keys:

- Make sure you get the white mangree in the left (with poison berries) hutch, then leave him there.

- Then chase the camoudile around (with the other three mangrees only) till he falls in and use the 3 tones (QUICKLY!) to have the poison berry thrown. Housewife mentions the correct tones in her post.

Good luck,

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:41 PM

JoanieS,

Yes, I think Jayne is right... you seem to have solved the tuning puzzle. You did not need (and should not unless you are just killing time) to go back up in the spider chair. The final puzzle is there with those two vats to the left of that journal.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:42 PM

GeeGee, well done! Now onto the drawbridge puzzle (the reason you've been gathering all of these totem symbols).

Dadguy
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jayne:
I don't remember seeing anything about Sirrus having a sister. Jayne
Jayne, Yeesha is Sirrus and Achenar's sister... wave
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 07:56 PM

I just updated my video driver 1 month ago. Any other ideas?

I know the 3 tones. Is there a spolier for the puzzle as this is my 3rd day attempting to solve it as the darn little white mangree won't throw the berries when camoudile is stuck in the pit.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 08:05 PM

Dragonia, what we said on page 15 and 16 and what I wrote above IS the spoiler. If you mean, is there a CHEAT for it... I know of no cheats. It is one of the two hardest puzzles in the game because it has a time factor and requires good hand/eye/mouse coordination.

It took me 4 or 5 tries... each time I would throw the berry while he was stuck in the pit; and even though the berry got there while he was still in the pit, he got out! Evidently you have to get the berry there really early! Liz had to try 20 times (I think she said).

Dadguy
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 09:01 PM

Oh, Dang!!! Wasted my time for like 3 hours. Had done the vat thing and then didn't finish doing the 2nd frequency thing, obviously now I realize, because I put the slider thing in wrong and didn't realize it. Oh, woe!!!!

Thanks, Dadguy. Sure am glad you are haunting this thread!!!!
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 09:10 PM

Yes I'm seriously behind you guys but I haven't had much time to play the past week. Anywho - I'm at the second floating rock thingie on Spire - about all I've done is climb down a rope, click a rock and make it float, made the gear thingie turn (can't get it to do it again) and looked in the magnafying thingie - before I head back to the floating ship - is there anything else I need to do here? And if not, why the heck did I come in the first place?
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 11:06 PM

No cheat huh? DARN! Thanks anyway! But out of curiousity what does the Myst puzzle solver say to do on 5 & 6? I thought when I used there hints it was working. Maybe I can motify it as well. I've tried over 20 times now to beat this puzzle. It is hard!!
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 11:18 PM

syd, when you "made the gear thingie turn", that presumably sent that floating rock up through the ceiling. You might want to head back up the rope and see where the rock ended up...
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/09/04 11:37 PM

Thanks Demosthenes - didn't even realize what I was walking on lol Got that control panel powered up - now I seem to be two short so I guess that means I need to "tweak" one of the other ones - I've been listening to thunder and lightening so long in this game today I keep opening the blinds to check outside and see if it's raining - it's not whistle
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 12:29 AM

Okay that euphoria was short lived lol I got all the lights lit and wouldn't you know it but it keep short circuting the darn thing (Spider chair on Spire). I hope I'm right in thinking I have too much power and need to adjust a little - if not, I have no clue what to do next rolleyes
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 01:49 AM

Spider Chair?!!Why do they have to put spider things in these games I am terrified of spiders. I was recently bitten badly by a spider and the bites got badly infected. This is just my opinion of course I hope I will be able to sit in the thing. That is just my opinion. I am in Haven and cannot get anywhere. I have been all over the island. My hand wants to pick up spears in the cave but can't make it do so. I cant get the gate puzzle to work the locks move but the only slider to work is the center one. Do we have to find crystals on this island? I was attacked by a lion thing and clicked think I killed it by doing that either I did or the seed rattle things did. Someone said something earlier about a prima guide what is that? Is it available for when we get stuck?
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 01:54 AM

Yes, well I'm stuck also - I got that blasted chair moving and am now hanging below it with no clue what to do. There are three gears in front of me and I can pull each one down once and they lock in place and the only way to release them is to press the levers under them - is that what they are supposed to do? I think I'm missing something somewhere - help
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 02:23 AM

I found the crystal by the crab when I first landed. I am not sure but there may be another one I cant get to. There is a dry grass area and a shiny spot on an axe stuck on a stump but my hand wont pull the axe out nor can I access the shine. Is there a crystal here I am supposed to find. I am just wandering around the island and cant find anything to do. Guess I must be really dumb or just lost. I found the totem with the drawing on it. Cant open the controls to the bridge. They sure made this game hard to figure out. I thought I was smarter than this. I just dont find anything that helps me get anywhere with anything. I have been all over the island for 2 hours now with no idea of what I am doing here.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 04:53 AM

Syd,

DELETED SOME TEXT DUE TO EDIT...

EDIT: Sorry, posted before I saw that you made it to the gears, Syd. Those gears should be moveable to any of the notches. You need the correct tension to solve the next puzzle. There are clues to it in the documents Sirrus left around. Stop reading now, and go back and read up, or....

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Move left gear to the 4th notch (important note... you START on notch #1 for each gear, not notch #0), center gear to notch 3, and right gear to notch 7. Then go up for the toughest (perhaps) of all of the Myst IV puzzles, tuning the crystals.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 05:15 AM

Dragonia,

OK, you have asked so many times, but I don't think it will help you. I think my earlier advice is your best bet. But.. here is what line 5 and 6 say:

5. W2 turn for .5 sec; W1 turn for .5 sec
6. W1 turn for .5 sec; w3 turn for 1.5 sec

Good luck!

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 05:30 AM

Dogpenny,

I'll try to answer all of your questions:

Spider chair; it really doesn't look like a spider... just has some metal arms that are shaped vaguely like a spiders laegs. Doesn't even have eight of them.

Haven gate puzzle: There are some great posts here (I know, hard to find, but also hard to retype again and again) that help solve it. Try page 12 of this quest in a response to Viz to understand what the goal is. You have to flip the rockers up and down, then slide the rows right and left.

Haven crystals: I don't remember crystals being something of interest in Haven. Get the totems symbols, photo the pages you find with mangrees (monkeys) and read the Quest posts for the best clues. Ingame hints help also.

Prima guide: Yes, there is one. Get it. Most computer game software stores have it. There are also some walkthroughs in progress. You and I are the types that like the walkthoughs I suspect.

Haven: Drawbridge... again great hints in this long topic called Myst IV Quest. Worth a read... even though it may be many pages, it is better than frustration. I have a screenshot of the solution to the puzzle, but there are clues in the readings (in the game) that will give the solution. Find the way into the shipwreck and read the journals.

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 06:46 AM

I went back to the gate the top and bottom sliders won't move. The latches are open the hand grabs the slider but cannot get either of them to move. Do I have to do something first before they move?
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 09:19 AM

dadguy, you are the best! Thank you for helping so many of us here. I really should go through the thread and note which puzzles are addressed on each page!

Those of you skimming through this great thread for answers

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Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 10:19 AM

INDEX TO PUZZLE HELP -- If you don't see what you need here, there's an updated index to puzzle help on page 40

Important Note: This is NOT an index to all the help in the thread, just to the puzzles that seem to be giving the most trouble.

Reading all the way through the thread will give you significantly more help than if you just refer to this index.


Flying the ship in Spire – page 3, 12

Fireplace puzzle – page 11

Spire spider chair crystal tuning puzzle – page 11, 14, 20, 22, 29, 37 -- hanging below spider chair gear help page 24

Gate puzzle in Haven – wooden gate, puzzle on the left – page 12, 25

Bookcase puzzle in Yeesha’s bedroom – page 13

Haven drawbridge puzzle – page 13, 15

Haven Mangree/Camoudile puzzle – page 15, 16, 23, 27-29, 38

Serenia dreamworld strategy – page 16, 28, 29, 30, 32, 33

Monkey wheel totem puzzle – page 17

Getting to Serenia – page 20

Haven elevator balls in box puzzle – page 20 and 21

Serenia spirit guide puzzle -- page 26, 28, 32

Serenia colored marbles lock -- page 30, 31, 34, 38

Harvester/water wheels -- page 32, 33, 37

Location of Spire medalion -- 35

Serenia Snake -- page 38-39

Spire -- book that won't open in linking chamber -- page 40

Teledahn crystal viewer and telescope – (different solution than in the Prima Official Game Guide)
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In the interest of total completeness (and because other people will have this problem) I have written down a list of the crystal shapes and what number they are on the slider -- the slider moves so quickly that it's easy to miss them.
Here they are:
Slot 1 -- tear drop
Slot 2 -- single spire
Slot 3 -- double spire, short, close together
Slot 4 -- fox ears
Slot 5 -- engagement ring
Slot 6 -- multiple spikes
Slot 7 -- double spire, tall, close together
Slot 8 -- single spire, angled top

So using these (admittedly strange) descriptions, the puzzle is solved this way: (note the console I'm talking about with buttons is UNDER the static view screen)

Red multiple spikes (hit leftmost button on console)
Light blue double spire, short -- close together (hit next button to the right on the console)
Yellow single spire -- angled top (hit next button on the console)
Green single spire -- angled top (hit next button on the console)
Dark blue single spire (hit last button on the console)
Then hit the middle button on the console.

To get the telescope working -- you must go up in the chair and look at the viewer in close-up (magnifying glass). The thing that seems to turn the crystal viewer on is pushing the button on the top right of the telescope console (looks like there's a lighthouse on the button). When you push this, you'll see the light become bright orange and you'll hear static starting on the crystal viewer. When you get out of the chair and look at the crystal viewer, you'll now see static on the view screen there.

Hope this helps.|



What to do if your game is slowing down significantly as you progress through the game:
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BillyBob: I deleted all but my first and last save and the game "loosened up" and ran a lot faster. I haven't been able to figure out where the pictures taken with the "camera" are located but that's probably because they are associated with the individual saves (my guess) and that would help to account for the size of the saves.

Jenny on how to delete saves: You don't have to go into the computer to delete games, --just go to "load" in the options. The middle option (I'm pretty sure it's the middle, but it's labelled anyway) is to "delete", so you just highlight a save and click that. There will probably be a box asking it you want to delete it.

Skippidy: I just copied my savegame files to another directory as CES had suggested. I'd hate to DELETE something I'd like to use again later.
However, the advice was good. Things move faster with less savegames. Jenny's advice is good for deleting saves, but there are faster ways to do it using Windows Explorer. But, stick to what you know and are comfortable with.

Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 03:09 PM

Thanks dadguy - I had a slapforehead moment last night - forgot that gears had teeth in them rolleyes I was yanking them puppies down as far as they would go - geeez. Anyway I think I have them set but I seem to be missing a crystal. Guess now I go on a crystal hunt but I don't seem to recall any that can be picked up. I thought maybe I could grab one on that wheel thingie in the bedroom but nope - all I can do is turn it a little. So I have the hardest puzzle ahead of me huh? Oh boy I can't wait (not) laugh
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 03:17 PM

Syd--There are 4 crystals there. This was discussed in an earlier post. If you have the gears properly set, now comes the fun of tuning the crystals. I urge you to view the posts on pgs. 11,14,19,20,and 22.

Good luck to you.
Jayne
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 03:28 PM

Hi Jayne - yep I just read that a minute ago laugh And I'm looking at a piece of paper with the chess piece on it right now - so it makes sense. Now if I can figure out now the keyboard works I may actually get somewhere today - then again - maybe not rotfl

Can I complain now about this grabby hand cursor being the pits especially in a timed sequence??? Half the time I'm tapping instead of grabbing frown I can see this tuning crystal thing is going to take some time - I think I'll go kill some sth soldiers in KOTOR for awhile - it's less frustrating.
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 04:27 PM

Syd-- It took me two extremely frustrating days to get the crystals tuned. I hated the cursor too. I finally got it by tuning one set and immediately pressing Escape. Then when I was ready (sometimes after several hours) I would come back and tune the next set and immediately press escape, etc. I suggest you practice the settings a number of times before you actually go for it. When you move all of them to 12, all your lights should go off. It took me awhile to figure out that what I thought was 12 was eleven. The tuner tends to move one down from where you think it is.

Best of luck to you. This one is very hard.

Jayne
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 07:13 PM

Syd: One thing that really helped me on the crystal tuning in Spire was to turn the cursor color setting down to its lowest level (like it helped me to turn the cursor to red in Haven). You can then set the cursor directly over the top of the slider and actually see the green marker through the slider and know when to stop. This puzzle seemed impossible at first but a little practice, like Jayne said, quickly pays off.
If I can do this, anybody can do it!
Posted By: jhorgan1

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 07:24 PM

Joanie, how does one turn down the color on the cursor?
Jerry
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 08:03 PM

In the options, Jerry, there is a slider to make the cursor more transparent--I don't think you can actually change the color...
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 08:10 PM

Yes, you can change the cursor color if you want. I changed it because I wanted it to look like a cursor, not a real hand.

Dawna -- if I'd known on September 30 that by October 10 there would be 369 posts, I MIGHT have been smart enough to split the thread up into Quests for each world. But probably not.

For Myst 5, I'll arrange things better! It's exciting that everyone is enjoying themselves this much.
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/10/04 11:49 PM

I am at the gates in Haven I cant get the top or bottom sliders to move the hammers are open but they sliders will not move. The middle slider moves freely. How do I get the top and bottom slider to loosen up?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 12:11 AM

Dogpenny,

OK, here's how the lock works. There are three sliders that you can grab and move left or right. Also, there are two vertical "rockers" that can be toggled up or down. You have to understand how they work, and the only way to do it is to try playing with them. Try grabbing and lifting the metal rockers up and down, and after doing that, then try to slide the three sliders left or right. Try all three. I guarantee that at least one of them can move. It's a game of toggling the rockers up and down then sliding the sliders that are "free" right and left. You work the puzzle until the little metal buttons no longer have the sliders covering the two little buttons. When you have achieved this you can then toggle the rockers onto the two buttons to open the gate.

You have to get to the point where you understand the movement, and it sounds like you haven't gotten there yet.

SLIDERS: move left and right when the rockers are engaged in the right spot.

ROCKERS can be grabbed and toggled up and down to release the sliders.

These are my terms for these elements... they are the best I can come up with.

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 12:38 AM

I went on to Spire while I was awaiting an answer to the gate puzzle. Now I am stuck at the rock ship I got a guide today to help me over the tangled messes I get in to. I do the last left, right, right according to the guide and the gantry recedes. I get all the lights on the top line lit and the gantry recedes. How do I get the ship to do what I need it to do? Is the guide right?
Posted By: jacqieh

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 12:53 AM

ARGGH.....ok stuck in spire.Got the rock ship to fly turned on the power over there went back to the spider chair,sat down and pressed the blue botton the panel comes down all the lights light up then the power blows.Can't find where to adj the cable gears,or make the chair move up or down. What am I doing wrong?? What do I do next??
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 01:00 AM

Went back to Haven following the instructions in the guide it says flip the upper hammer down, push the middle slider left 2 notches,flip the upper hammer up push the upper slider to the right 1 notch. The upper slider and bottom slider will not move. They are stuck there. The center slider moves easily. Even when I open the top hammer the top slider will not budge. mad
Posted By: jacqieh

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 02:04 AM

ok so I'm slow,re-read the related posts realized I had too much power and after fixing that I got the chair to move on to try and work the sliders.Love this game,I've spent all weekend playing and it looks like I'm a little less than 1/3 of the way through.Great puzzles all the answers are there if you just keep looking,outstanding story, don't know who to believe yet.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 02:26 AM

Dog,

First, the Rock Ship. I'm not sure what you are talking about on the "left, right, right" thing. I don't have the guide, so it is hard to follow your question. To answer your question best, read what we posted in the many pages of the Quest. Use Becky's guide on the last page before this to find where the posts are for different puzzles.

Second, Haven... I don't know how accurate the guide is, and it is possible that you moved the sliders before you started the guide solution.... so it may be possible that the guide won't give you the step by step solution (because the guide assumes nothing has moved yet).

So you might have to stop, relax, and look and think and figure it out... it takes a number of back and forth actions. If you get stuck, try something else; rethink and attack the puzzle from a different angle. This one is not as hard as some of the others because hand-eye coordination is not needed...just thinking and experimenting. Read what I said about what the goal is.

Have fun!

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 02:28 AM

Jacq,

Glad you figured out that power level question. I think the key is to not panic and stop to enjoy and think. Glad you found the hints you needed in the Quest topic!

Dadguy
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 02:56 AM

I am at the wooden gate puzzle in Haven and cannot get the sliders to move once I have released the lock. What is the trick here?
Posted By: gamenut

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 03:21 AM

have been enjoying (?) myst iv...mostly, but Spire and the Chair and the 'Tuning' are finally getting to me. thanks to all you guys doing this thread and your advice. now, if i just had that bionic writst to tune those blasted crystals!!!!! again....foiled (for awhile) on a darn 'timed/action' puzzle. guess our original Myst days are over. i do believe my trackball is more helpful than a regular mouse...to me.
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 01:35 PM

Dogpenny: That wooden gate in Haven got to me so bad I gave in and finally used the hint system. When I saw there were like 25 steps to successfully complete the puzzle, I was GLAD I used the hint system. Good Luck and stay calm.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 01:49 PM

Jeepers,

Check the page before this one (page 25) for the gate puzzle "trick" description.

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 03:13 PM

Hi puppytoes! Yes, the members here are a helpful lot!

Just curious -- does anyone else think that Spire has a kind of gothic horror ambiance? All those tower-like structures, the lumiscent green, the mist and lightning?

In past Myst games, you had to find out about the characters through their journals and their "rooms" -- the kind of belongings they kept, or in Atrus's case, the kind of worlds he chose to describe and link to. What does everyone think about the necklace/flashback device? Is it a lot more effective?
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 06:56 PM

spirt guide, gave the offering but nothing happen..Very difficult to carry the offering to the spirit guide when the spirt guide is no where to be found..

Anyone manage to get pass this one, if so, how did you do it?

I think the offering are to far away from the spirt guide, by the time I get the offering to the spirt guide I loose it..

Liz
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 07:32 PM

Liz,

Serenia Spirit Guide puzzle

When you give the offering to the spirit, it will hang around for about 10 seconds and I think I remember some kind of reaction (some sparkling??). If it disappeared immediately, you were probably too late. It took me 5 tries... I was always late or dropped the gift.

In any case, I had expected something bigger, like the guide talking to me or escorting me. That doesn't happen.

So, you may have been successful!

Dadguy
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 08:03 PM

I found there were three important things about this puzzle:

1. If you go more than about 4 screens, the bubble/dandelion/fire thingy will pop/fly away/disappear, so if you have to go further than that, you're going to the wrong place. There are numerous wells/etc., and there are also multiple bubble/etc. generators. Each generator is within an appropriate distance (4 screens) of ONE well/tornado/fire, but not necessarily the one you're trying to get to.

2. Once you get to the proper screen, you need to click on the spirit guide. Otherwise, your bubble/etc. will pop/etc.

3. The spirit guide is only at ONE location at a time. If you walk by it and don't have an offering, it will usually change locations. So even if you manage to reach the well/etc. before you lose your offering, the guide may not be there. It might be a good idea to check where it is before you start. You can usually tell from a distance if it's there or not.
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 09:25 PM

I think I lost a reply somewhere. Anyway, I am definately ready to leave Spire. I completed the gears and the crystal puzzle. I dumped two of the crystals onto a platform in some cylinders. I still have 2 crystals left and haven't got a clue duh what to do next. I am definately ready to move on.

HELP! help
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 10:30 PM

Okay, I went back to the chair and entered one of the combinations from a crystal. Another crystal fell and blew up this round thingy leaving a dented platform. Got on it, pushed some buttons and ended up at the top of the island. Next to the platform I have a round thing that opened with different colored dots.

Am I done yet???? woozy

Thanks to all who have been so helpful in these postings. I do believe we will hit the 10,000 mark. thanks
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/11/04 10:56 PM

Take a picture of the round thing with the colored dots (to be used later) and you are DONE!!!

Congratulations! smile

Jayne
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 12:48 AM

Just wanted to vent my frustration! I am STILL stuck on the Mangree/Camoudile puzzle. I have been on this one part of the game for days now and I still can't get the Mangree to throw the berries! ~UGH~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:00 AM

Dragonia, I am sorry to hear that you are still stuck on that puzzle.

I have to presume that you read all of my posts on this one, right?

1. Have you gotten the white mangree into the left-most hutch (the one with the berries)?

2. Have you then chased him with the other three mangrees (avoid using the code for the white mangree and he'll stay there)?

3. Eventually with only the three mangrees chasing him around, he will fall in again. Have you gotten him into the pit?

4. Have you been able to give the code for the berry throw in time?

I'm guessing that you are achieving the first three but are late on the last one, eh? I found that I could just give the wheels a brief yank (less than .5 seconds for sure) for the "short" tones, and that helped me speed up the toss of the berry.

Let is know when you get it. We will all celebrate!!!

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:03 AM

Dragonia, do an experiment with the white mangree when there is no pressure on you for time (i.e., without the camoudile in the pit) to see if you have the codes right. It's wheel 3 for 1.5 sec, wheel 1 for .5 sec, wheel 2 for .5 sec. I made the mistake of going from wheel 3 to 2 to 1. That is wrong.

Dadguy
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:35 AM

Thanks Jayne for all the info. I am delighted to be moving on to Haven. happydance

I do have another question.

Upon returning to Tomahna, when you land, you can see someone throwing a lighted signal or something from one of the buildings. I don't believe I have seen anything in the thread about this. Is there something that needs to be done before moving on to Haven?
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:38 AM

mangree/camoudile puzzle:
What I did was pull a save after I was sure I had all the mangrees in position, except for the last one before the attack call.
Then before I went back in I practiced on paper what I had to do. Also to memory.
Also like dadguy said: I found on attack call, that last 2 short seem to be "just a SHORT 2"
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Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:46 AM

That dratted Mangree Puzzle.......

I have 4 codes for the tones.
2 short, 1 short
1 long, 2 long
1 short, 3 long
3 long, 1 short, 2 short.

Now what???? When I put in the codes, just to see what is where, the little Mangree's hutch's open, but they don't go anywhere. I have tried different order of playing the tones, but no one runs across the ropes with the exception of one in first hutch on left runs to the hutch on far right. I have read all threads on this puzzle, but don't see anything that explains the sequence.
Any help out there from people who have gotten through this one?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:55 AM

Hey Jeepers,

You are missing the code for the white mangree.

The last 3 code signal is the command to throw a poison berry.

The posts here don't explain a sequence, but they do tell you what you have to do; most significantly, my post above.

The mangrees don't like to run too often. They sit and stare when they are tired. This usually happens when you go back to one too soon. This was discussed in some of the posts here. So, read my post above, get the white mangree in the left hutch, then work with the other three keeping track of which one you "called" so you don't go back to him too soon (that is, rotate through the three).

Dadguy
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:56 AM

Rocking--
Have you been down to Yeesha's bedroom in Tomahna yet? The dock down below her bedroom is where you saw the lighted signal. There is a linking book down there. Getting down there is via yet another puzzle.

You can go to Haven before you tackle that if you like or work the bedroom puzzle first.

I'm in Haven with the Mangrees. Sigh.

Jayne
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 02:20 AM

Hi Jayne,

I just redid the mangree/camoudile puzzle to make sure I was giving Jeepers some good advice. My hints work (however, you cannot "test" a throw from the white mangree if the camoudile isn't in the pit..he just swears and gets frustrated), so let me know how you do.

Rock, I meant to respond to you as well. What you saw on Yeesha's dock was on of the brothers linking out to Serenia ("they're baaaack..."). If you go and explore Yeesha's room you'll find the bookshelf glass broken and the book that was there earlier is GONE! (ooooooo!) Fun stuff!

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 02:45 AM

I finally got the gate puzzle to work. Now I am at the same place Dragonia is stuck. I cant get the nest with the white Mangree to open the first time I put in the code it always opens on the second time and then it is too late to throw the berry. Please can someone send me a save I have been here all day and can't get past this point thank you very much for any help given.
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:07 AM

Dadguy, Ok if the first thing I do when the puzzle is reset (leave and walk all the way up the path and back down resets the puzzle) is hit 1, 3 and the mangree on the left opens his hut. I haven't got him to leave the hut after that. What am I doing wrong? I am totally ignoring the myst hints and trying a new combo everytime. I tried to solve it again tonight and gave up after 2 hours of trying. I get the camoudile in the pit quite often. I do the 3l, 1s, 2s with VERY short tones and NOTHING ever happens. I'm at my wits end!
Posted By: corny3456

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:22 AM

Hi, Everyone

I am in Spire trying to do the slider puzzle to get all 7 lights to light up. The most that I can get lit are 6. I purchased the Official Game Guide from Prima and it says to move the slider (I won't say which way) but it does not work. Can someone give me the combination?

Corny
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:34 AM

Dragonia,

I'm not sure that you answered my questions...

1. Have you gotten the white mangree into the left-most hutch (the one with the berries)?

2. Have you then chased him with the other three mangrees (avoid using the code for the white mangree and he'll stay there)?

3. Eventually with only the three mangrees chasing him around, he will fall in again. Have you gotten him into the pit?

4. Have you been able to give the code for the berry throw in time?

It takes experimentation to get there. If you reset the puzzle, you have a longer road to hoe. When I started at the beginning it took about 8 moves to finally get the white mangree in the left hutch. Keep moving them until the white mangree is in the left hutch (he is left 1.5 and center 1.5). Once he's there, leave him there and work with the other three to get the beast into the pit. Then hit the 3 tone code and zap him. I just tried it again and it does work.

Sorry you are having so much trouble. Hope this helps.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:35 AM

Corny,

After you have six, move the slider right, then left, then right again. I think this adds the 7th light.

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:51 AM

Dadguy, to answer your questions:
1. Isn't that the white mangree in the hutch to begin with? Or am I suppose to put the really white one in there? If so, then no I haven't got him there. Don't know how...
2. I've chased the white mangree but none of the mangrees ever go in the left hutch. And the mangree that starts in there never leaves.
3. I have gotten the camoudile in the pit MANY times.
4. I give the code and never have berries thrown.

frown
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 04:11 AM

The spirit guide, came up as long as I don't get close to it, it will stay there, so I came back with the offering got close, the view turn towards the spirit guide and I had the offering in my hand and it stood there and then it disappeared...I don't know if I succeed or not, how can I tell if I need?

Liz
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 04:23 AM

I went back to Spire and cant get the rock ship to move. I have tried and tried with the right left slider until I am right left out. I would appreciate a save here too to get me to the next step. Thanks
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 05:45 AM

I went back and tried the Mangree puzzle again determined that it was not going to defeat me but,I think I have a kink in the Mangree puzzle I get the Mangrees in the right places. I try to open the white Mangrees nest when the bad guy is in the pit the white Mangrees nest does not open on the first try. I have been really careful the last few times I have redone the puzzle and turned both wheels twice. The nest opens on the 2nd try and it is too late. This has happened over and over again. Think I should report this to glitches? duh mad
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 08:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by housewife:
The spirit guide, came up as long as I don't get close to it, it will stay there, so I came back with the offering got close, the view turn towards the spirit guide and I had the offering in my hand and it stood there and then it disappeared...I don't know if I succeed or not, how can I tell if I need?
Did you hover the offering over the guide?

Did sparks swirl around ... I got the air spirit guide, so I don't know what the fire & water ones do in response.

If you go to the dream chamber without having succeeded, I'm sure you'll not be able to dream, so you can tell.

Gremlin
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:18 PM

Dragonia,

OK...

1. Nope, the white Mangree doesn't start there. You have to move the mangrees around... it'll take several moves. Experiment, and remember to rotate which mangrees you move.

2. I just did it with my game and the white mangree does go to the left hutch after several moves. The mangree that starts there will leave.

3. Good!. That's half the challenge.

4. With the camoudile in the pit and the white mangree in the left hutch, and the correct code given, berries will fly. You have to have all three.

Good luck,

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 01:20 PM

Liz, gremlin hit on what you were missing, I think. I clicked the offering on the guide.. I think he smiled and sparkled and swirled for about ten seconds.

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:28 PM

I will try that gremlin...I got the water spirit..

I took the bubble to him at the pool where he was and when I got close to the pool, the view turn to his direction and the hand curse with the bubble was right over the water guide, he smiled, I think, and in a few seconds splash back down to the pool, I didn't click the mouse when I had the bubble on him..

So to be sure if I succeeded, I will go and see if I could dream, like gremlin says..

Dogpenny...That happened to me as well, there is no glitch. Once I had him in the pit and turned the wheel, the monkey would not come out, and do it again, but it was to late and also this would happen as well,when he gets in the pit and I turned the wheels, the white monkey would come out and throw him with the berries and nothing, he would come out of the pit again, and I had to start all over again, this happened to me about three times, just when I got him on the pit, and the monkey throws the pit nothing would happened..

This how I succeed, once I know that one of the monkeys is going to be place on the rightmost nest, and I know that thing is going to chase him, my hand on the wheels for the white monkey ready to throw him the berries, I know this part gets nerve recking, relax and just remember, the combination even before you touch the wheels, don't give up, it will take some time and a lot of pratice...I thought I would never get this one, but I calm down and set him up and ready to throw him with the berries..

I hope I am helping...Liz
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:42 PM

dadguy...Sorry to bother you, but your the only one that; as far as I can see may be at this point in the game.
I am in the Dream world. Staring at multiple lights, of different colors.
The spirit guide: in order to get message from Yeesha, that I would have to seek the ancestors.
I don't understand how to make the colors do what and what order etc.
I sense it has to do with the colors I found in Yeeshas journal but don't know how to do this puzzle.
I'm touching lights all over the place and getting no where.
Please advice, if and when you can. think thanks
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:48 PM

How do I get the mangree out of the left hutch???? Any code sequence I can try? I think I have tried everything! <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" /> I've NEVER had ANY puzzle tick me off like this one.
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 03:52 PM

Bubble to spirit:
For me I found the best place was the bubbles just outside the cave where you come in from a linking book.
I would take a bubble from there and gently walk 3 clicks down the path and slowly turn left and up those stairs (one click) and carefully turn to my right and then its like a very small moment where we look at each other (but don't hesitate) and then I clicked left mouse and it worked.
I hope this will help someone.
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 04:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SKIPPIDY:
I am in the Dream world. Staring at multiple lights, of different colors.
I've also done this puzzle. The strategy to take is to methodically work your way across the field of colours using triangles of three lights at a time. Keep going round the triangle until the lights go white, and then rotate the triangle to include fresh colours. Your may well have to allow lights to go red again to work your way around the whole area.

Eventually you'll get down to the last few lights, and not be able to wipe them out very easily. In this case, keep wandering around in triangles (trying not to repeat yourself) until you find a white light that will not change - this is Yeesha. Then you can work at the lights around her until they all go white... puzzle solved.

HTH.

Gremlin
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 04:57 PM

Skippidy,

Serenia: Dream World puzzle

Also see my post on page 16 near the bottom. In it I discuss the fact that the colors change in a preset order! So, knowing this, you'll be able to tell when you are a click or two away from turning white. This way you can plan your clicks so that you get groups of them to turn white and lead you to the next colored one. (you don't actually click, you just pass over them with the cursor)

Also, a very big key: If the voice doesn't tell you that you have succeeded, then it means that there is at least one more colored spot out there. It may mean you have to turn spots that are already white back to colored so you can "traverse" around looking for the last colored ones.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 05:04 PM

Dragonia,

This is supposed to be fun, so don't let it get to you.

If you have reset the puzzle and are starting from the beginning try the following:

L 0.5 R 1.5
R 1.5 C 0.5
L 0.5 R 1.5
L 1.5 C 1.5 (this is the white mangree)
C 0.5 L 0.5
L 0.5 R 1.5
R 1.5 C 0.5
L 1.5 C 1.5 (this should move the white mangree into the left hutch)

After he get's there, don't play his tone again. Use only the remaining three until the beast gets caught then hit him with the poison tones QUICK!

Good luck,

Dadguy
Posted By: Mordack

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 05:56 PM

It seems Dadguy/Gremlin is doing a good job helping everyone here so I'll duck in and out by adding some info to the dreamworld puzzle. There is one circle that can't change color and it's white. This is how I knew all others had to be white. There's more, you can use this to help with the last couple of colors. What I did is I found this white that doesn't change, started there and moved all around in a circle back to the start. At this point I had 1,2, or 3 colors left to change. You can run your cursor over the white one that doesn't change any number of times in a row without causing a reset in the surrounding colors. Knowing this you can go back and fourth with the one white and your last few.
I haven't seen anywhere on any board mention this one white circle so maybe it's common knowledge. Good Luck.

Mordack
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 06:24 PM

I LOVE YOU DADGUY!!!! :kiss: WOOHOO off to Serenia!
Although I had to reset the puzzle and do it several times because the mangree didn't move from the left hutch. I think there is a glitch in the game. When it came to throwing berries I got that the first time! Cool ride! Ahhh back to enjoying the game. Thanks again!!
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 07:43 PM

skippidy, I did the same thing, I also found the bubble near the linking book, and did exactly that, and I had the bubble in my hand and over the spirit, what happened next, because I didn't click, he just went back down in the pool.


Liz
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 07:47 PM

HAVEN:

Need to know if I am finished with Haven. Have finished following:
1. Went into ship and looked around
2. finished wooden gate puzzle
3. finished drawbridge puzzle
4. finished mangree puzzle

Seems I saw somewhere in all these posts something about a Monkey wheel totem puzzle. What is that and where is it in Haven? I have been wondering around for hours, but don't see anything else to interact with. Am I done?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 08:00 PM

Jeepers,

Haven: Final puzzle

After you put the camoudile to sleep, you return to where he was growling at you just before the mangre/camoudile puzzle, and go down the path where he was. See him sleeping and go past him to find a ladder of sorts. Climb it to the tree house. The mangrees will all join you up there (cute little fellows). Read a couple of hints in the tree house then head to the final puzzle by elevated walkway. Sit in the chair and solve the final puzzle, then enjoy the ride.

Then you should be done.

Enjoy!

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 08:59 PM

Okay, now I did it with the water spirit, this time I went back got my bubble near the cave where the linking book is, about 3 careful click and there was the guide waiting, got close,moved my hand with the bubble, click right away, the bubble flowed out of my hand and through some spirkles, and the guide disappeared, went to the memeory chamber, the lady was waiting for me..

Now I am in dream world, with color lights, have to turned them all white, which is not an easy task, time consumming and lots of patiences..

I will try the way gremlin suggested...Wish me luck and wish all at this point luck as well..
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 09:56 PM

I DID IT, I DID IT, I DID IT !!!!!, I put the bad guy to sleep in the Mangree puzzle. I realized what I was doing wrong I was trying to open the nest first. Then all of a sudden I thought you dummy try the attack mode and it worked 2nd time!!!! Now if I can get the rock ship to work dont know what the problem is there but will try to figure it out. If I can't there is always GB'sbravo happydance happydance bravo bravo
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 10:24 PM

ARG!!! mad I'm having a heck of a time at this wooden gate with the metal plate to the left. Tried moving the peg and sliding each of the 3 rows back and forth and nothing. When I took a peek at the hints there were something like 23 steps and of course I am having similar problems as others, where the bottom half of the page is missing. No help there I guess. Anyone have a spoiler for this thing. help
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 10:33 PM

I got to the spider chair to adjust the crystals I touched the slider on the left and sparks flew out of the machine next to the door and all the lights went out on the spider chair control and the panel went dead. Was I supposed to fix that machine somehow before I tried to adjust the crystals?
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 10:36 PM

A simple hint for the spider chair, dogpenny, is that you've just blown the fuse... you have too much power connected to the chair.

More information available upon request. smile

Gremlin
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 11:03 PM

dadguy...dream puzzle....I studied all the suggestions and tryed all different ways and I've wracked my brain on this.
All day long and I can't seem to grasp the method needed to do this.
Sometimes the screen is almost white with all the right ones but then colors keep destroying all I do.
Is it possible to give an example of how to do a 3 color triangle using some colors to explain?
And how do I move on without the others getting wrecked?
Sorry for my inability. duh
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 11:09 PM

Rocking -- Welcome to Haven. Look at Dadguys post about the Gate on pg. 25. It was what made things clear for me.

I haven't had a chance to play yet today. Maybe tonight. You will doubtless be ahead of me by then.

Good luck!!

Jayne
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 11:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SKIPPIDY
And how do I move on without the others getting wrecked?
The next triangle will almost certainly have light(s) in common with the previous one.

Just keep going round the triangle until a light goes white, and then modify your triangle, repeat, until all triagles go white.

Patience, patience. wink

Gremlin
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 11:32 PM

I bet I have to turn off the docking station. Will go back and try that. I saved the game before I brought the control panel down in the spider chair. I blew the circuit. Went back and turned off the docking station. When I try to reload the control panel all the lights are on on the picture to load but when I load the panel is dead and the lights are gone. I hope I don't have to start the game all over again!! I cant get past this point is the control panel live then when I load it it is dead???
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/12/04 11:50 PM

Do you necessarily need all the power from distant sources, if you can take some from closer to home?

Gremlin
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 12:20 AM

Hi Dadguy,

I finished the tree house puzzle and have gone back to the hut, middle of raised walkway, by drawbridge. I have gone to chair and can't seem to interact with anything except the drawing of the old mangree. What exactly am I looking for here, or am I in the wrong place?
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 12:38 AM

I cant unlock the crystals from the spider chair control panel. I have tried and tried forever and they just wont unlock I count the lights as they go on and off and the count is correct still they wont unlock is there an easier way to unlock them? How do I know they are unlocked?
Posted By: jhorgan1

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 01:23 AM

The crystal lock puzzle in Spire is deplorable. I've been trying to solve it for over a week.The worst thing is that the little sliders won't stay where you put them.Tried downloading a savegame but can't find any saved games in the Myst folder, even though there are nine of 'em in game.
Any ideas?
Jerry
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 01:30 AM

Jhorgan,

The savegame folder is under My Documents and is called "myst4-revelation savegames".

Dadguy
Posted By: jerryw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:11 AM

Hi everybody.I am in serinia trying to unlock the door to the work shop.I did the dreamworld and got the colors when i turned all the spheres white.I drained the hole to the door.I tried the color combos every way i know how. Every time i press the button the door closes and resets the puzzle.Does any one know the correct placement of the marbles?I have been trying for almost 2 days.I sure do need some help. Thanks,By the way this is a great Quest.
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:22 AM

jerry, to solve the colored marble puzzle, you need to find a clue in Spire. Without this clue, the puzzle's pretty hopeless.

You'll need to make sure you've finished ALL of Spire, then get a good look at the elevator there.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:37 AM

Jeepers, you went back too far.

From the mangree/camoudile hut, go down and then go only a few clicks, till you get on the walkway, then turn around (don't go back to the treehouse in the middle of the lake) and go down to where the camoudile is sleeping. The treehouse I mentioned above is off to the right.

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:39 AM

Gave up on the locked crystals and went on the Sernia. Now I can't find the linking book went out the arch with the bell and looked all around everywhere and cant find the linking book back to Tomahna. Can anyone tell me where the darn book is?
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:43 AM

thanks Dadguy, found it and that was one ugly snake! I am now in Spire and would like to know if that chair setting behind the metal gate is the "Famous Spider Chair"? If so, how do I get the door open?
Posted By: jerryw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:44 AM

I went to spire and took a picture of the round thing hanging on the elevator.That thing has a purple marble on it.There is no purple on the lock that is on the door.Starting from the top going clockwise i had red -cyan- red- green -purple -blue.The colors you get in dreamworld are
green -red- blue and pink-yellow-cyan.Is this correct?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:48 AM

Jeepers,

Glad to hear it!! Way to go!

Explore a bit. There is another way down.

Or... read through this (LOOONG) post for clues. They are in here...

Have fun.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:54 AM

Jerry,

Yeah, I know what you mean... the colors are a bit different...

I found out by experimenting that Purple (Spire) = Pink (Serenia) and that Green = Green and LightGreen = Yellow.

So, the purple is easy... treat it as pink on the door combo.

But, the real question is whether you saw a green or lightgreen on that medalion. For me it was easy because I had both Green and a LightGreen on the medalion and I figured it out.

I have a screen capture from my completed lock that helps understand the lock. I'll only link it if you can't figure it out.

EDIT.. ALSO: The code from the medalion is different for all of us, so we can't give you an absolute solution, only advice.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:00 AM

Dogpenny,

I see you figured out the Mangree puzzle without using the save. Good for you! Remember that by moving ahead and starting Serenia, you will not be able to use any saves from other games. It will "erase" your progress from YOUR saves.

The link book back to Tomahna is EXACTLY in the same spot you linked in. It is at your feet where you linked in. It brings you to an interesting location in Tomahna.

Regarding the Spire spider chair, there is lots of help in this quest. Use the guide on page 24.

Dadguy
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:13 AM

After having left Haven I couldn't help thinking about that "compass" hanging in the tree. Does anyone know if it has any future relevance to the game? I sort of forgot all about 'till now.
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:27 AM

If you push the compass, it swings back and forth...back and forth...

sleep

Nope, other than some vague significance to the plot, I don't think it had a use. Not that I ever found, anyway.
Posted By: jerryw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:37 AM

Dadguy
I'll try light blue for purple like you said.The green i have is light green or lime.The red looks more like orange.
Jerry.
Posted By: katielou

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:42 AM

i need some sdvice on this marble puzzle, please. could someone send it to me? thanks. smile
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 04:50 AM

Jerry,

I said purple for pink, not light blue. I think light blue is considered cyan for ths game.

I said lightGreen for yellow.

There is no amiguity for red, so your orange is probably red.

Try this photo link to make sure we are clear... this is MY solution... yours will be different.

SPOILER IMAGE !!!!

Dadguy
Posted By: syd

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 02:58 PM

Well quite by accident I got those crystals tuned in Spire (and believe me no one was more surprised than I was) lol and got the bridge raised - is that all there is to that? I walk across and find a book and not much else except two things that look like fish tanks with the codes to two of the crystal frequencies (really helps after the fact) and a switch which I flipped. Before I leave and mess something up - is there anything else to do here or can I safely leave in the spider chair from whence I came?
Posted By: jerryw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:08 PM

Dadguy
Ifinally opened the lock.The light green was yellow and i used pink for purple.Thanks for the help.I am trying to figure out yeesheas puzzle.
Jerry.
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:27 PM

I am at the point where I have to stop water from filling in the harvester, I turned off the one in the ceremonial altar, and one of the ones in the stone forest, went back to the harvester lowered it with the door closed, but I can't get to lift the harvester back out, I have no access to it..

I don't understand...am I turning off the right stream, I know it has to be the stream that leads to the harvester area, but I think I am turning off the wrong one...

By the way, the suggestion someone gave here about the dream world lights, that you use a triangle method worked wonderfully...

Like use three lights in a triangle, and just keep touching them until one or two turns white, if you are left with one or two that has not turned white, sacrifies a white to continue your triangle of three, and keep touching the same three in a triangle until you are turning them white, sacrifies a white if you need to..

I found this way very easy and after a while it worked..My wrist was hurting from moving the mouse back and forth, up, and down....be patient, it will come..

Liz
Help, anyone please?
Posted By: jhorgan1

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 03:32 PM

Dadguy,

Found the saved games and stuck in #35. Got past that blasted crystal puzzle with a minimum of shame. Onward and upward and thanks for the info.

Jerry
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 08:13 PM

Do we have to feed all the spirits in Serenia or just the water spirit? How do you know which place they are going to pop up or is it just by guess and by golly? happydance
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 09:09 PM

Sid, you already flipped the switch to the right.

Go to what you call 2 fish tanks and below them are 2 containers attached : push them to the left.

Go back to the chair and click on the bleu button on the right arm.

Put the 3 sliders up to 12 at the top to see a crystal run the tube to the thank and explode.

Take the elevetor.

Hope it helps.


Chiefette.
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 10:49 PM

Can't get access to the back of harvester, I even read the hints, but still can't get enough water out of the well, to get access to the back...

I think I have these waterwheels all wrong, but don't where to start...

The waterwheel that was locked with that snake thing, in which direction should the water flow, left or right?

The waterwheel with the broken wheel, in which direciton should the water flow, left or right, I moved it so now I don't remember which way it was before?

the waterwheel with the handle and rope, in which direction should the water flow, I moved this one and I don't rememeber in which direction it was before...

I follow the direction in the hint system, and I have no access to the back, and maybe I am looking the wrong place to access this secret tunnel?

Anyone could help me out, in what I am doing wrong, would be most appreciated...

Liz
Posted By: gamenut

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 10:49 PM

oh darn it! Might have known Bert Jarmin would go to Haven instead of Spire next. I was so (SO) hoping he could find us an easier way to solve the vibrating crystal tuning puzzle. Time runs out waaaaaaaaaayyyyy too fast for me. i went back to Tomahna and found link Book at Yeesha's dock and went to Serenea. What a pretty place. Just what my nerves needed about now!
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/13/04 11:16 PM

No dogpenny, if you got the water spirit that is the only one you to feed(offering)..

Where you see a pool, and if the waterspirit comes up, do not approach it, turn away from it and go get your offering, and then come back to the same place you last saw the waterspirit..

If you approach it without an offering it will splash back down in the pool and then you have to check the other pools to see in which one it is in...

So when you go search the pools, and you see it, don't get close to it, go get your offering and come back and then get close to it with your offering and quickly click on it...

Liz

Hopes this helps
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 12:37 AM

Liz,

The water in the two upsteam diverters should BLOCK water going to the left (i.e., let the water flow right only).

The one with the snake puzzle near the workshop just needs to be turned so the water fills the fountain next to it. No diverting necessary.

But, you are not done yet. You have to do a few dunks and drains using the harvester and playing with the harvester door to it to drain the last bits of water and get access to the door. You'll know when you've done it because the door down the stairs inside the harvester area will be open when you get there.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 12:38 AM

TLC, savegame gets more and more problematic as you go along. There is more and more content in MY saves that won't match what you've done.

Are you sure you've read everything and are doing thinks right?

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 12:40 AM

Dogpenny, we presume that the protector that spoke to you DID say that your spirit guide was the water spirit, right? That is how you determine which one to go to... she will tell you.

Dadguy
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 12:49 AM

I finally got the mangree puzzle done. happydance happydance happydance

I checked the WT and found out that the camoudile goes to the pit twice. slapforehead
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 01:05 AM

I got the water spirit fed. Now am in the dream world and dont know what to do with the colored lights. I know I have to turn them white but in what sequence and how many do I have to turn white. I keep getting beeped and the white colors disappear and I have to start over again. duh <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 01:21 AM

Well, dogpenny...

You have to turn them ALL white. No, really. evil

Fortunately, this is one of those puzzles where you're bound to get it eventually if you just keep going. A few tricks I found helpful:

When you get down to only a few patches left, start working in triangles of three.

And: colors change in a certain sequence. As I remember, they started at dark blue, and each time you touched them they would change to the next color, eventually reaching yellow and then white. So: go for the dark blue ones first, then the next color, etc., working your way up to the yellow and white ones.

Try to get as many pieces as possible to be all one color, regardless of WHICH color. Then change them all at once until they're all white.
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 02:16 AM

SPIDER CHAIR - SPIRE

I am finally ready to tackle the infamous spider chair and I need to know how I can be sure I have set the 3 gears correctly before I begin.
Gear 1 - 4th slot
Gear 2 - 3rd slot
Gear 3 - 7th slot. When I did this, there were no clicks, lights, etc. How does one know if they did it correctly?
Posted By: Demosthenes

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 02:40 AM

Jeepers, if the gears are set correctly, when you go back to the previous level and move the sliders to adjust the frequency, you should get a nice steady hum. If it instead sounds like a strangled violin-playing monkey on a pogostick, you should go check your settings again.
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 03:22 AM

Count the gears from the top not the bottom.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 03:36 AM

Jeepers, remember that you START in slot one, so moving to slot 4, move only 3 additional notches.

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 04:04 AM

I give up on the Dream Realm there must be thousands of those things to change color I get a bunch of them white then get the bong bong bong and they all change again I tried one color at a time and everyway I could think of an nothing works. I have tried for hours. Why don't they stay white when you make them white? I know just to drive us crazy. Thanks for all of everyones help in this game it has been fun. duh duh <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />
Posted By: gremlin

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 09:25 AM

They go back to coloured if you move from A->B->A, instead of A->B->C->A.

Gremlin
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 12:12 PM

Yes, you must make sure that you don't go back and forth between two... the dream world doesn't like that and will make a 'dong' noise and change the ones in the immediate vicinity back to colored.

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 12:55 PM

dogpenny it took me two days to complete the dream world puzzle...but what I found to be more easier was the triangle of three, like touching only three at a time in a triangle.

For example:
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2 3 then go back to 1,2,3 until turn yellow, then white, keep doing this triangle of three all over with the color lights,if you have to sacrifies a white one to make another triangle do so..This puzzle takes a lot of time and patience, eventually you will get it, don't get discourage when sometimes they turn back to colors, just keep doing the triangle and eventually you will get the last one to turn yellow and then white..

this is the best way I know how to explain it..
Hopes it helps a bit.
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 02:09 PM

Done the diverting with the water, everything is flowing to the right, except the one with the broken cogwheel, it has three paths of water..

The waterwheel on the stone plaze, the water flow is to the right..

The one with handle and rope is also flowing water to the right(cart)

Can someone take my save game and see if everything is right at this point..

Cause I been dunking the harvester about 10 times and nothing, I even added water inside the harvester and closed and brang it up and open the harvester and spill out water and nothing is happening.

Or if someone has a saved game at this point will be nice...can't get the harvester back to open, no matter what I do.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 02:22 PM

Liz,

Maybe you are misunderstanding WHERE you go to get into the secret workshop door.

The "back" of the harvester does not open. It is not where the secret door is.

The place you want to go is found by looking down in the pit where the harvester goes. Look on the right side of the pit... you should get a "forward" icon. Go down there and you'll see some stairs, and once you've emptied the water enough, you'll the access to the infamous door puzzle.

Let me know if you find this secret passageway.

Dadguy
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 04:36 PM

I got the lights all white now am at the door. I cant get the colors to move when I click on a color a white line shoots out with a circle at the end where the color is to go. I have reset the puzzle several times and it is still the same I can only get one color to shoot a white line to the end of the small triangle on the door. The other colors will not move. The hand just taps them. How do I work the door lights?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 04:49 PM

Dogpenny,

You first click the color that you want to move, then click the destination that you want to move it TO.

The white line you are seeing is the game showing you ALL possible locations you can choose. You can see that you can only move to a spot where you are not blocked. To get the colors where you want them you may have to move things around several times to get a path open to where you want to go.

Dadguy
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 08:31 PM

dogguy, finally got access to the stairs bravo I knew I was looking in the right place for the stairs, I could see them even with water in the pool...

What I didn't notice, was that the waterwheel with the broken cogwheel there shouldn't be any water flowing there..I couldn't get the other waterwheel to stop the flow by the broken cogwheel..even if I turned them all right. So turned back all the waterwheels back to its original position...and started again, and then when I went back to the broken cogwheel, there was no water flow there, this is when I knew I got it right this time..

So when to the harvester, empty out some water, had access to the stairs, turned the wheel under a window, which opened a tunnel, went down, but the door was locked, so went back to harvester, empty some more water and went back down the stairs and the door was open..

Thank you dadguy for the help, you made me rethink and retrace my steps bravo laugh bravo lol
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 10:07 PM

Syd, I agree- those frequencies at the bomb site would have been helpful before!!! Which brings me to my question. I have solved spire and am now in serinia but I still don't understand the logic behind the frequencies used (the 6-12-4 etc.) I have the prima guide and used the map hint but it doesn't explain how you get them.I got all the notes from sirrus and the only one I thought made sense was the nara one which looked liked equal parts of 36 hence the 12-12-12. Guess being a CPA is no help- should have gone to science class more often.... Anyway if someone could explain to this very anal personality the rational I would greatly apreciate it... Thanx a mil
Margie
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/14/04 11:25 PM

I'm in the memory chamber with all of the different color spheres. I have NO idea what I'm supposed to do. help thanks
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 12:00 AM

I double checked the colors they were all right. Do they have to be in certain order on the door example inner red outer green and blue do they need to be in a certain place on the door and in order through the other inner colors?
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 12:02 AM

TLC you have to touch them in triangle form to turn them to white. If you go out of the triangle the colors change on you. The colors you touch need to connect. Check out page 33 of this forum I was at a loss too until it was explained to me.
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 12:15 AM

The dream world "changing colors to white".......I got my help from dadguy and gremlin and then after trial and error, all of a sudden it clicked. Just keep clicking.
I'll try to explain: I started with any 3 colors in a triangle, that where close to the center (Yeesha's). Hers is the one that when touched doesn't change.
So anyways, I worked that triangle of colors, by touching each one once as I worked the triangle. (one, two, three and one, two, three etc. Until one (sometimes two) turns white. But make sure the one(s) that turn white are close to the center white and close to all the other white ones you make.
Now before I confuse you too much, right down the colors red, purple, blue, aqua, green, yellow, and white. And like dadguy said: by knowing the order, you will know when a color is about to change to what color next; this is important!!!!!
Now for an example: say you have some white ones to your left, and you have a triangle of say green, blue and red; you look for the color that will get through the order and to white first. In this example, its green; so you click green first and then the other two. As you work the 3 color triangle, don't worry about the other two and what there changing to, cause your just waiting for your green to be white and join the others.
Then move to the next set of colors (that are next to the white ones) and repeat proceedure again.
In a matter of time my screen was white. But I was still missing one and I had to plow thru my whites to find it. In this case I hit a white that turns red and do it to two more so I have that triangle of red and work that triangle until it goes thru the colors to white and move on that way till I find the color that isn't done yet.
I hope this helps someone
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 01:31 AM

Dogpenny,

Serenia workshop door puzzle:

I saw your post under Bert Jarmin's walkthrough topic. Unfortunately, each of us has a different color wheel arrangement from the Spire elevator medalion. You won't be able to see a photo solution that is universal in the walkthrough.

Have you read the other posts on this topic? There is a lot of good stuff.

For example, the colors from the medalion have a slightly different hue then on the door. Light Green on the medalion is actually yellow on the door. Purple on the medalion is actually pink on the door. So... maybe you don't have the inner ring correct after all?

Here is a picture of my solution:

SPOILER Image of workshop door solution !

Note that the six colors that are circled are the ones from my medalion in Spire. Note that the yellows were clearly light green in the medalion and the pink was clearly purple in the medalion. I arranged them in the same orientation as the medalion (i.e., red was at 6:00, blue was at 8:00, etc). Then finished the puzzle per the clue from dreamworld.

Hope this helps...

Dadguy
Posted By: dianne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 03:15 AM

i am still stuck in the fireplace need help i read the solution boy i must be doing something wrong either that or iam just stupid wanna play getting a headache dianne
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 03:24 AM

Dianne, check out page 11 (and also page 24 for an index to previous hints on various puzzles) for a solution to the fireplace puzzle.

Dadguy
Posted By: SKIPPIDY

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 01:47 PM

dadguy.......I have finished myst IV and it was due to all the help you and others gave me.
And I mean no disrespect to others help, but I would just like to give a special thanks to you dadguy.......
Cause some puzzles took days and I wouldn't give up the challenge, and you where there by my side with your support.
Plus I've observed how you stick with this quest day in and day out helping everyone with every level of this game.
You should get a free game of myst V when it comes out.
I'll be checking back here too, to see if I can lend a hand.
Thanks again, your a special kind of boomer!!!
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 03:54 PM

I am a bit confuse at the door puzzle...
When I pressed the medallion and get two sets of colors...for example I am getting a vision of inner blue,red,green-one set, the other is inner light blue,purple, yellow...

My question is. Is this my combination for the door puzzle, if so, at the door puzzle, you have 3 triangles on the top and at the bottom you have 3 more triangle, in which direction do you start, from left to right or from top to bottom..

For example, if I am going to put, inner blue, green, red, at the left top, what about the 2nd top, and the right top, are all the colors be the same, or do I have to switch them around..and do I do the same for the bottom triangle..

I know how to move them...

Liz
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 05:51 PM

I'm in Serenia at the door with the colored marbles. I can't figure out what to do. duh help
Posted By: Jeepers

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:22 PM

Serenia - Collecting Offering Spirit Guide

My spirit guide was water. I found the bubbles and carried one to a water guide and I saw a bright burst and lots of sparkles. Went back to Memory Chamber and nothing happened.

Has anyone else had this problem and if so, what did you do?
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:25 PM

Ok I need some help with the Bathysphere Puzzle. I have went down the stairs, turned the wheel and opened the secret door. Now what? How do I get to that door? Does the door at the bottom of the stairs open?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:30 PM

Liz,

Serenia workshop door puzzle: Ultimate SPOILER below.

Take a look at the screenshot I posted about 5 posts above. Look carefully at it; it is the door puzzle SOLVED for my particular combination. The combination STARTS with the six colors in the medalion from the elevator in Spire. Each of us got a different set of colors from the medalion. SOLUTION:

1. Those six colors must be moved to the six positions that I have shown with a white circle around them in my screenshot. I put them in the same positions they had on the medalion.

2. The dream world clue tells us that we have to add two colors to the triangle of each of these six colors that when blended together, will form white. Blue-Red-Green is one combo. Yellow, light-blue, purple(pink) is the second.

3. So, after you have the six colors set, go to each triangle and augment with the correct additional two colors to satisfy the puzzle.

In the case of my screenshot, notice, the color at 6:00 was Red on the medalion, so I put Red there. Then I added Green and Blue to the other corners of that triangle. The color at 12:00 on the medalion was Yellow (actually looks light-green on the medalion), so I put Yellow at 12:00, then added Light-Blue and Pink (looks purple on the medalion).

I took care in making sure that colors were always in the same order in each triangle (that is, Red-Green-Blue or Yellow-Lightblue-Pink going clockwise, but I don't know if the game is that picky.

Got it? Good luck!

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:31 PM

Jeepers, did you go UPSTAIRS behind the memory chamber?

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:35 PM

Dragonia,

Yes, the door at the bottom of the stairs opens automatically when you empty a little more water.

Dadguy
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:37 PM

Dadguy, I can't remember where the medallion in Spire is? How can I get back there? wave
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 07:43 PM

TLC, there is a linking book to Tomahna back at the spot where you first linked in here. It's on the ground. It takes you to a yet unvisited area of Tomahna, so enjoy! You'll find your way back to the Spire linking book below Atrus' fireplace. The medalion will still be there on the elevator (near the top) assuming you haven't started working with someone elses savegame (where Spire is not complete) along the way.

Have fun!

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:07 PM

Dadguy: How do I get the "little more water out? I have taken the bathysphere and dunked it, opened the door underwater, shut it, raised it split the water and repeated several times.
Posted By: charward2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:15 PM

I finally solve the dreaded Mangree/Camoudile puzzle after about two hours and with lots of help from everyone here. But I can't seem to get the snake to appear. I have tapped and tried running my hand along the bottom line (I don't get an open hand). But after many many tries I can't get the snake to show up. Please any suggestions, hints would be appreciated.
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:17 PM

I'm stuck in Spire. help I'm in the 'spider' chair trying to get the four elements vibrating together but I keep running out of time.
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The vibrating sequence I've been following has been "White crystal" "Blue Crystal" "Rocky" "Nara (knight piece)". I've followed this because the "white" takes about 45 seconds to complete its circuit as a result of the one exit-hole. But I seem to need more time. mad

I'm assuming my vibrating parameters are correct at:

"white" 6 12 4 (or is it 8 12 4??)
"blue" 3 1 7
"Rocky" 10 5 5
"Nara" 12 12 12 (the easiest to do)
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:22 PM

Dragonia, do you have the water diverted properly? Did you open the nearest gate to flood the fountain overlooking the workshop? Did you try the ingame hints? They explain the harvester (that's what they call it) draining procedure.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:25 PM

Char, the hand icon doesn't "open" for this puzzle. You have to just click and drag along the bottom right black stripe four times. Click, drag RIGHT-TO-LEFT, release, then again three more times. Then when he appears click on his head. He's a bit scary.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:27 PM

Pere, you have it right. Read the hints folks have used here to shorten their times. It's a hard one...

Be careful when setting it on position "1". I was dragging the slider all the way to the bottom and it misses the "1" setting (there is actually a "0" setting there). 12 is easy because you CAN slide it all the way to the top (i.e., there is no position 13).

Dadguy
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/15/04 09:55 PM

Dadguy, I just realized something. I didn't have to go all the way back to Spire for the colors on the amulet. I took a picture of it. duh blush rolleyes wave
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 12:03 AM

Dadguy I have looked all around the top of the elevator in Spire and dont find the medalion.Where exactly is it?
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 12:11 AM

Dutch, Its across the pathway from the Spire chair, where the figurine collector is. wave
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 12:32 AM

I haven't been able to visit Haven for several days but this afternoon did finally solve Mangree/Camoudile puzzle (thank you Dadguy)and then played with the snake (in real life I've relocated 2 rattlesnakes from next to my house so the Haven snake didn't rattle my nerves). I linked back to Tomahna, up the elevator, through the fireplace and wandered around a bit expecting thing to have changed as I'd read in other posts. I didn't see any different scenery so went to Yeesha's bedroom, down to the dock and linked to Serenia. Did I miss doing something on Tomahna??

Well, back to Serenia.

Jayne
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 01:03 AM

I am trying to get out of the spider chair. How do you set the darn thing so it works? I have tried for hours and can't get past this point. I have counted and counted and am sure there have been times when it was correct. I don't understand why they had to make that thing so hard to get by. The locks dont always stay where I put them they slip and it is hard to count at times. Is the first green mark 1 or 0?
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 02:45 AM

dadguy (your awful popular here) laugh By flooding the fountain do you mean the water coming outta the goddess's mouth? That is a yes. I can't read all the hints in the game again. I am missing 5 thru 8 and no hints passed 12. But I can see them blinking so I know there is more. I have the water shut off on both sides next to the pond close to the path down to the workshop. No water flowing by the bellows or down the waterfall that goes under the bridge to the bathysphere, is that correct?
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 03:16 AM

That is correct dragonia, water should be coming out of the goddess's mouth, make sure that in the waterwheel with the broken cogwheel, there should not be no water at all flowing threw there, and the other one where the snake thing was wrapped, the flow should be at the right...

When you get back to where the harvester is there should be no water anywhere in site, not even those pumps going up or down..

If you can't get access to the door to open, go back up to the harvester, bring it down to the pool with the door open, then close it to trap water in, bring it back up, don't spill water out, go back down to see if the door open, if not, go back up to the harvester, dunk the harvester, with the door still close and water inside, then bring it up, do not spill out water, go back down to the stairs and see if the door is open..if not go back up again and dunk the harvester with door close, bring it back up and open the door and spill the water out..one of these will open the door eventually..

make sure and this is important that you have turned the wheel with the window above it clockwise to open up the tunnel in the pool, you will see it open when you turn the wheel, this will lease water through, when you dunk the harvester..

hope this helps.
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 03:32 AM

Thanks dadguy, now I getting a better understanding about this puzzle...but I have to go back and look again at the medalion colors, because I can't remember them, maybe I took a picture, going to check anyway..

Let you know what happens next, thanks for the long explaination I really appreciate it..

Liz
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 03:58 AM

I believe I have everything like I should. The door at the bottom of the stairs is the one I will be going thru right? Will it just be open when I look? I have been trying the suggestions for a few hours with no sucess.
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 12:33 PM

Re: spire spider chair harmonics. Thanks Dadguy I finally worked it out. I couldn't really find help elsewhere that would help me shorten the time to move the sliders but here is what I did:
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1)I noted that it didn't matter which slider you started on or you finished with to create the element vibration (ie 123,231,132,etc);
2)I found it a lot easier to focus on the'lights' rather than the notches on the slider for counting . Once the white quartz harmonics started the border between on/off lights in the bank had turned the corner . From this point I found it easy to count lights on or turn off through the 'feel' of the appropiate slider.

So I made my slider sequence (starting with quartz) 132, then 123,321,123
The corresponding lighting sequence is #1 6 off,#3 4 off, then with a deep breath...#2 slide 12 off (the race begins), then to #1 slide 3 on, #2 (slide 12 on then take 1 off), #3 slide 3 off, (pause),#3 slide 2 on, #2 slide 4 off, #1 slide 7 off,(pause) then push all three sliders to the top.
I use the word 'pause' so that you come to a complete stop and not to a 'rolling' stop as some auto drivers often do.
Anyway, focusing on counting lights on/off once I passed quartz was my saving grace. I know one thing...I'll never be a Starfighter pilot.
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 03:28 PM

Adding to Pere's explanation, here is a step by step for solving the slider puzzle.
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When you sit in the chair all the crystals (lights)around the edge are dark.

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#1 Push until 6 crystals are lit (starting with lower right side and going counter clockwise.
#3 Push until 4 more are lit
#2 Push all the way in

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#2 Pull all the away back (reset)
#1 Pull back until 3 crystals go out
#3 Push until until 3 crystals light up
#2 Push until 1 crystal lights up

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#1 Push until 7 more cystals light up
#2 Push until 4 more crystals light up
#3 Pull until 2 crystals go out
Nara: Push 3 sliders all the way in

Sure saves trying to count little dots.
luck

Viz
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 06:41 PM

Yes, drangonia the door at the bottom is the one you will be going through and should be open you go down to the bottom of the stairs, only if you have dumped enough water out of the pool..MAKE
SURE, you turned the wheel below the window, and the tunnel is open, this allows the rest of the water left in the pool to go through, by doing so dunk the harvester to spill water in that tunnel that you opened, this should open the door at the bottom..

If the door at the bottom of the stairs is not opened is because you still have water in the pool..

This is how I did it...

I went down the stairs, and the first thing I cam accross was a wheel and a window above it, I can still see some water still in the pool..

So I turned the wheel clockwise, and through the window I could see a tunnel door rise, so I went down the stairs and saw a door, that was closed,

So, I went back up to the harvester, and dunked the harvester with the door open, once the harvester was in the pool, I closed the door, then I pulled the harvester up, then I dunked the harvester again with the door close, then I pulled the harvester up again, and check to see if the dooor at the bottom was opened, but it was not, so I went back up again, and dunked the harvester with the door close and water inside one more time, then I pulled it up, open the door and spilled out water, went back all the way down the stairs, and the door was open, and I went through..

It took me a few dunks to get the door open..but want is important is that the tunnel below the pool is opened..

Liz
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/16/04 06:55 PM

The Spider Chair is really frustrating. I set the first one right I know it is right and the 1st lock does not open I have tried every way I can I even used Vizagoth's method nothing works. Several times trying to open the locks I get the magnifying glass to bring the lock up close. Then I have to start all over again. Why doesn't the first lock pop when I have the count right? I don't get anything to vibrate. I have been on this thing for hours. <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" /> mad mad
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 12:18 AM

Dutch,have you set the gears to turn the machine?
Viz
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 12:34 AM

Do you mean when you drop below Spire or are there other gears to set? I set those gears and got back up into the room with the bombs but cant access them.
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 02:50 AM

OOps....sorry. Did you tune the crystals before trying to get them to vibrate?
Viz?
Posted By: lucinda

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 04:15 AM

if possible i need someone to send me a save for mangree puzzle have been trying for days-have finished all other puzzles in haven up to this point and have finished spire
Posted By: dogpenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 04:49 AM

How do I tune the crystals? I have set and reset the gears several times at the bottom of spire. There is no sound when I move the sliders to open the locks.
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 01:40 PM

Dutch, you may want to check the glitches forum. If you have the gears correctly set, they you should be able to hear the sounds.
Viz
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 04:12 PM

Dutch, it took my husband and me an entire week to solve this puzzle, which we finally got through (and got out of spire) last night. I kept feeling like I had NO IDEA what was going on, or even what was supposed to be going on, until we finally had *all* the pieces.

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Tuning the crystals: did you make the connection between the gears beneath the throne place and the gauges on the 3 big crystals up above (one near the access to the docking bay, one near Sirrus' sleeping chamber and one viewable by the telescope on the other palace)? Each set of gears has a different symbol on it and each crystal has a different-shaped setting. Each gauge has a "set mark" on it and also a lever that is affected by turning the gears below. On crystal #1--the crystal above the access to the dock with the pentagonal setting, which corresponds to the first gear--the correct setting is four places from the top. All the way up (on the gear) and all the way down count. Try moving the gear and going back and forth between there and the crystal to see what I mean. You can actually check on two of the crystals to see if they're right, but on the one with the gauge blown off you'll have to hypothesize.

Hope this helps--it was the last connection we had to make to get things going, anyway.

WW
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 04:15 PM

Dadguy.

A million thanks for your comments on page 34 about the elevator medalion and the color door.

My medalion has 3 blues and 2 greens and 1 cyan.

So I was working all sorts of combinations to get the white and of course it didn't work.

When I saw that the green on the medalion is a yellow on the door, it was easy to go on with the game.

Thanks and a good day to you.

Chiefette.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/17/04 04:40 PM

Chiefette, glad you got it figured out.

Just a note to others, it is LIGHTgreen on the medalion that looks yellow on the door. There is also a Green (darker) on the medalion that will look green on the door.

Here's a summary of the colors avail and what they might look like on the door puzzle.

MEDALION--------DOOR

Lt. Green-------Yellow
Lt. Blue--------Lt. Blue (Cyan)
Purple----------Pink
Green-----------Green
Blue------------Blue
Red-------------Red

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 04:37 AM

Bathysphere Puzzle.... still!!! The tunnel door is open and I have been trying: dunk door open, then close under water bring up, dunk again with door closed and dunk again then spill water with no luck. Still the door is shut. Anyone want to look at my saved game to see what I've done wrong??
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 05:42 AM

I did a different combo tonight and it opened -door closed with no water, dunk, bring up, dunk, open and close door bring up, BINGO open door! Now for the door puzzle I see everyone loves so much! Thanks for the offer though!
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 05:43 AM

Dragonia -- I assume you turned the wheel in the tunnel clockwise?

Jayne
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 05:47 AM

Dragonia, yeah, that's what I did. I just kept trying different combos and BINGO!

Good luck with the door!

Dadguy
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 03:51 PM

I'm in Serenia now and I love it here. Curious tho'-- do different people actually get different kinds of spirit guides and is it really based on your actions in the game? The nifty-voiced priestess told me I "was not afraid to ask for help" when necessary...but I'm wondering how she knew that, as I never have used the in-game help (in fact, it's disabled) and have only come here. Do you suppose they have a spy wink ?

WW
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 05:50 PM

Ok I have read all the hints about the door puzzle several times but I am still confused. My colors starting at 12 are blue, purple, blue, yellow, yellow & green. These colors must be in the center, right? Ok then and the trinagle goes green, red, blue and upside down triangle goes purple, yellow, lt blue. So the first triangle shape at 12 would be for my combo purple, yellow, blue, right? Then the next triangle shape at 2 o clock would be green, purple, blue? Going around the circle I am left over with not enough of the colors I need to finish the other triangles. So what do I do or am I doing it wrong? And do I push the button again if I have the right combo? I notice it also resets the puzzle.
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 06:14 PM

Dragonia, have you tried the red and the green with the blue at 12,and then yellow and lt. blue with your purple?

Good luck.

Chiefette
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 06:47 PM

But wouldn't that be wrong? The triangle at 12 is upside down so that means the color combo is purple, yellow, lt blue. Mine with the blue at the center should be purple, yellow, blue. Right?
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 07:17 PM

Dragonia, the hints I gave you are based on my game as the blue, red and green did the job.

Look a few pages back and look at Dadguy giving a very good hint about the colors.

I had a similar problem as your's.

Good day.

Chiefette
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 07:17 PM

Dadguy; printed out your instructions you gave to Dragonia regarding the Manchee but don't understand what you mean "use only the remaining three until the beast gets caught then hit him with the poison tones." Which remaining three and which poison tones?

Jayne if you are out there this Mangree puzzle is AWFUL! mad
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 07:33 PM

Dragonia; I hope this will be of some help. In my door puzzle I made sure that the little triangle apexes aimed toward the center of the door mirrored the colour wheel from the Spire medallion. My colours were,clock-wise from 12, red, green, red, magenta, light blue, and magenta. If I recall there is a memory scene which will display two colour wheels each containing three colours ( I think it was from the dream scene). Anyway your triplex of colours for each triangle should then reflect the colour scheme of the two colour wheels (from that dream). I hope I haven't made it too confusing. When you finish with the last triangle they should all glow white and the door burst opens. I dont remember having to touch anything else.
Posted By: Chief

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 07:39 PM

Dragonia, Pere is giving you a good hint and you could also look at page 34 for a hint by Dadguy.

Have fun.


Chiefette.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 08:08 PM

Rock, what I meant was, once you get the white mangree in the far left perch (where the poison berries are), don't move him anymore. Move only the other three mangrees to chase the camoudile around till he falls in the pit, THEN QUICKLY use the three code signal for the poison-berry-throw to put him to sleep. If he gets out, try again, but only chase him using the three mangree's that aren't white (i.e., leave the white one in the left perch).

In case you are saying that you didn't find (or understand) the tone for the poison-throw, it is on the page you find in the hut. The spoiler is: Right 1.5 sec, Left .5 sec, Center .5 sec

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 08:19 PM

Dragonia, I just reread my post on page 34 titled Ultimate Spoiler. It seems clear and correct. Use the photo of my solution to understand it (print it out if it helps).

Note that your six colors (blue, purple, blue, yellow, yellow & green) must be in the positions with the white circles around them (see my photo LINK ). So, if BLUE is at your 12:00 position, the two other colors in that triangle must be GREEN and RED. If PURPLE is your color at 2:00, then the two remaining colors for that triangle must be LIGHTBLUE and YELLOW.

I think Pere is wrong about them glowing and the door bursting open... When you have it set properly, you have to press the button (bottom) again. This can be painful, because if it's wrong, the puzzle resets and you start over again.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 08:30 PM

Jerry,

Sorry you are having trouble with the snake. Don't let it get to you, my friend.

The snake puzzle worked for me the first time and every subsequent time without a second try needed. So, I suspect there is a matter of understanding the process that is missing.

Find the lower right black stripe on the snake. Click (and hold the button down) on the right edge of the stripe and drag the mouse horizontally to the left over the stripe. At the left end of the stripe stop and release the mouse button. I think of it as petting the little guy, but it important that you stroke right to left.

Do this three more times and the snake should come alive, then click his head.

Dadguy
Posted By: SOLVER

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 08:31 PM

Gamers...
I am at the infamous 'Mangree/Camoudile'puzzle...
I have a couple of questions...
[1]..How precisely must the wheels be set [this
'hamhock'of a cursor gives little leeway...
[2]..Must I rush to turn the wheels before the
'ATTACK'sequence..or can I take my time...
[3]..I'm not getting any Mangree action..why do
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I've read the QUEST several times and these seem
to be my sticking points...need help! SOLVER
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 08:46 PM

Solver,

Haven Mangree/Camoudile puzzle:

There is an index to the page numbers of certain hints on page 24 of this Quest if you need help finding the hints on the mangree puzzle.

1. Not very precisely. I found that experimenting was the best way to know. I rotated the wheel steadily for about 2 seconds for the "long" and just a short chirp for the short. I think it basically just needs to be able to distinguish between short and long. Biggest cause of failure is due to a hand slip where you go up and down instead of around with the wheel.

2. Take your time on the wheels when moving the mangrees around... no rush there. BUT !... when the camoudile falls in the pit, there is a BIG rush to play the poison-throw tone to get him before he climbs out of the pit.

3. The mangrees won't move if they are tired (i.e., you went to a mangree again without resting him at least two moves by the other mangrees). They also seem to not move if there is not a convenient perch open for them (i.e., they only move to certain perches from certain perches).

Hope it helps,

Dadguy
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 08:55 PM

Sorry Dragonia, Dadguy is right. You do have hit the button for the door to open. I just don't remember doing it (by then I was probably half asleep and did it automatically). oops
Posted By: housewife

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 09:09 PM

drangonia, when you have the right combo, you push the button and if all the lights turn white the door will open, if you don't have the right combo and push the button, the puzzle resets, and have to try again..

Liz
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 09:43 PM

I am at the end of Haven, which I really liked (compared to Spire). Was able to solve all the puzzles on my own and now I can't get that darn snake to wake up! Is there a hot spot- I keep petting the 4th stripe and nothing happens. I guess there's a humbling moment in every age!
Thanx, Margie
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 10:07 PM

Hi Rocking--I'm glad you're having the same fun as I did with the Mangree puzzle. smile

Have you written down the correct tones for each of the Mangrees and for the Berry Throwing? I had them right next to my screen.

What I did was practice the berry throwing tones several times before I moved white Mangree into the far left position. After he gets in place never play his tones again. Just move the other three guys around until the Camoudile falls into the pit.

You should be able to figure out what move will make him fall in the pit. As soon as you hit the final tones for the mangree that will make him fall in the pit, start the berry throwing tones. He is very fast at getting out of that pit!

I owe getting through this puzzle and the spider chair puzzle to Dadguy.

I found this puzzle to be slightly easier than the spider chair...but not much!

Hang in there and good luck. You will get it done.

Jayne
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 10:12 PM

Dadguy, I'm holding the left mouse button down and moving right to left 4 times on the bottom right stripe. I guess that's not right....
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 11:03 PM

Tazmanw--

this is what worked for me to wake the snake up: Hold down the left mouse button and stroke the bottom stripe right to left. Release the mouse button as you move your cursor left to right and depress the button again as you begin each stroke. You have to stroke fairly quickly. Also, getting out of the lieft chair and getting back in after a failed attempt seemed to help reset the puzzle.

WW
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 11:42 PM

Margie (tazmanw),

Snake puzzle:

I tried it again and it works everytime. Have you read my post to Jerry on the previous page in this Quest (page 38)? I give a thorough description.

Wysewomon is right. Maybe what you are missing is the release of the mouse button after you drag it right to left. I also checked where the hand cursor works best. You can put your fingertips on the stripe, or the palm of the hand.. it works both ways. Make sure you start your stroke on the right end of the black stripe (as opposed to starting off the right edge) and ending the stroke while still on the left end of the stripe (as opposed to running off to the left). Also, don't drag too slowly... it seems to miss the very slow strokes.

Good luck,

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 11:45 PM

Dragonia! Well done. We knew you'd get it! You are almost done... one more puzzle that hasn't gotten much fanfare, but is quite involved (I never really understood the Yeesha memory puzzle at the end).

Dadguy
Posted By: tazmanw

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/18/04 11:53 PM

Yeah! Thanx Wysewoman and Dadguy (and sorry Dadguy I didn't see the post on previous page-thought I'd checked em all) Anyway, I wasn't releasing between strokes and I was going to slow- sometimes it's the simple things.... Thanx a mil! Now onto Tomahna....
Posted By: Vizagoth

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/19/04 01:28 AM

Finished the game this evening. Did any one else notice the brass plate on the deck in Tomahna with "The End has not yet been written" on it? Is this a clue there will be a Myst 5?
Viz
Posted By: MaG

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/19/04 02:16 PM

Dadguy,

I too would like to thank you for all your help getting the gamers through Myst IV. It is really appreciated!

Thanks again!
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/19/04 03:21 PM

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Finished the game this evening. Did any one else notice the brass plate on the deck in Tomahna with "The End has not yet been written" on it? Is this a clue there will be a Myst 5?
Viz
I didn't notice that until I came back from Haven! Was that there all the time wink ? I have heard somewhere thay a Myst V is already under development, but it may just be a rumour...

Getting close to the end game, I think and I'm really sad about that.

WW
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/19/04 06:59 PM

Although I've finished the game,or at least I think I have, there were a couple of items that have been nagging at me:
1) In Serenia, the drained out cavern had what looked to be like a half-shaped turnstile. When you moved it (ie turned it a little) sun-light would be reflect to different parts of the back wall. I couldn't figure out its purpose; and,

2) When I was leaving Spire there was a book that I could not open which was sitting on the bench located in the front part of the linking chamber. (The Tomahna linking book was in a see-through case in the back part of the chamber). Was I supposed to have been able to open this book?
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/19/04 09:44 PM

I didn't notice the thing in serenia (or haven't yet). The book in Spire wasn't there to be opened, I don't think, but you should have got some information from the amulet when you zoomed in.

WW
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/20/04 12:32 AM

I have the same questions about the drained out cavern sun thing. Not sure what its purpose was.

However, I did happen to go back to Spire after being on Serenia for a bit to re-look at the colors on the elevator. I saw your book and opened it. It was a brief snippet of conversation Yeesha with Sirus. I don't remember seeing the book on my first visit to Spire.

Jayne (who has started Silver Earring but who still misses Myst IV)
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/20/04 02:03 AM

Drained out cavern: Do you mean the area under the Harvester by the workshop?

Book in Spire: I was never able to open that book. I'll try it after a Serenia save as Jayne did...

Dadguy
Posted By: Pere

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/20/04 02:28 AM

Yes, I did get the brief conversation between Yeesha and Sirrus through the Amulet. (Yeesha to teach Sirrus D'ni). Now that I think of it I guess the book served as the best object that would enable the amulet to pass on that conversation. Since it really wasn't a 'written' dialog the book couldn't be opened but serve merely as a kind of transmitter. Kind of makes sense to me now why it didn't open. Thanks.
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/20/04 03:22 PM

Dadguy--

no, the drained out cavern is the one that Achenar stole the (forget the name) really significant stone artifact from, the one that's shaped like a head from the outside and when you turn the water back on it comes out the mouth. The reflector thingie is inside there, and I was sure there was going to be some point to it, but I haven't found it!

WW
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/21/04 03:20 AM

Ah, yes... thank you WW! Yes, I thought there was a puzzle developing there, but never found any progress in it. The cavern was flooded later and you couldn't get back in.

I haven't revisited the Spire book yet, but I am intrigued by your finding.

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/21/04 01:37 PM

UPDATED DIRECTORY (INDEX) TO PUZZLE HELP

Well, here it is. An index to some of the puzzle help in this thread. I'm posting the updated version on page 40, as it is becoming annoying to have to get back to page 24....

Important Note: This is NOT an index to all the help in the thread, just to the puzzles that seem to be giving the most trouble.

Reading all the way through the thread will give you significantly more help than if you just refer to this index. If you read all the way through, you will be entertained and inspired. You also might need to take time afterwards to rest your eyes.


Tomahna

Bookcase puzzle in Yeesha’s bedroom – page 13

Fireplace puzzle – page 11


Teledahn crystal viewer and telescope – (different solution than in the Prima Official Game Guide)
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In the interest of total completeness (and because other people will have this problem) I have written down a list of the crystal shapes and what number they are on the slider -- the slider moves so quickly that it's easy to miss them.
Here they are:
Slot 1 -- tear drop
Slot 2 -- single spire
Slot 3 -- double spire, short, close together
Slot 4 -- fox ears
Slot 5 -- engagement ring
Slot 6 -- multiple spikes
Slot 7 -- double spire, tall, close together
Slot 8 -- single spire, angled top

So using these (admittedly strange) descriptions, the puzzle is solved this way: (note the console I'm talking about with buttons is UNDER the static view screen)

Red multiple spikes (hit leftmost button on console)
Light blue double spire, short -- close together (hit next button to the right on the console)
Yellow single spire -- angled top (hit next button on the console)
Green single spire -- angled top (hit next button on the console)
Dark blue single spire (hit last button on the console)
Then hit the middle button on the console.

To get the telescope working -- you must go up in the chair and look at the viewer in close-up (magnifying glass). The thing that seems to turn the crystal viewer on is pushing the button on the top right of the telescope console (looks like there's a lighthouse on the button). When you push this, you'll see the light become bright orange and you'll hear static starting on the crystal viewer. When you get out of the chair and look at the crystal viewer, you'll now see static on the view screen there.

Hope this helps.|



Spire

Flying the ship in Spire – page 3, 12

Spire spider chair crystal tuning puzzle – page 11, 14, 20, 22, 29, 37, 46 -- hanging below spider chair gear help page 24

Location of Spire medalion -- 35

Spire -- book that won't open in linking chamber -- page 40


Haven

Gate puzzle in Haven – wooden gate, puzzle on the left – page 12, 25

Haven drawbridge puzzle – page 13, 15

Haven Mangree/Camoudile puzzle – page 15, 16, 23, 27-29, 38

Monkey wheel totem puzzle – page 17

Haven elevator balls in box puzzle – page 20 and 21


Serenia

Getting to Serenia – page 20

Serenia dreamworld strategy – page 16, 28, 29, 30, 32, 33, 42

Serenia spirit guide puzzle -- page 26, 28, 32, 45

Serenia colored marbles lock -- page 30, 31, 34, 38

Harvester/water wheels -- page 32, 33, 37

Serenia Snake -- page 38-39

Serenia Map -- page 42

What to do if your game is slowing down significantly as you progress through the game:
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BillyBob: I deleted all but my first and last save and the game "loosened up" and ran a lot faster. I haven't been able to figure out where the pictures taken with the "camera" are located but that's probably because they are associated with the individual saves (my guess) and that would help to account for the size of the saves.

Jenny on how to delete saves: You don't have to go into the computer to delete games, --just go to "load" in the options. The middle option (I'm pretty sure it's the middle, but it's labelled anyway) is to "delete", so you just highlight a save and click that. There will probably be a box asking it you want to delete it.

Skippidy: I just copied my savegame files to another directory as CES had suggested. I'd hate to DELETE something I'd like to use again later.
However, the advice was good. Things move faster with less savegames. Jenny's advice is good for deleting saves, but there are faster ways to do it using Windows Explorer. But, stick to what you know and are comfortable with.

Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/22/04 01:57 AM

I'm sure I saw this somewhere in this thread but I can't wake up the Protectors. I even went back and followed the WT and still didn't get the middle aged protector to appear to trigger the wake up call. Any ideas? I followed everything step by step. At least I think I did. duh
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/22/04 03:42 AM

Rock,

Yes, they do sleep a lot, don't they? I must have returned 6 times to listen to them snoring...

I can tell you this; the Protectors didn't wake for me up until I finished turning the final water valve down by the workshop (the one with the snake puzzle on the wheel). After I did this I took the long walk around to the drawbridge to get to the workshop, and on the way, I checked the Protectors and they were awake finally.

If that doesn't work for you, it may be that it's just a time thing that will eventually trigger.

Cheers,

Dadguy
Posted By: Henny Tiben

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/22/04 11:15 AM

I realy need a saving for after the crystals in the spiderchair, because my hands are not able to do such little movements. I`m sorry, that I have to ask for this, because solving by myself is much more rewarding, but I can`t. Please help me.
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/22/04 04:29 PM

Henny, the problem with getting a save from someone else is that you may miss a big chunk of the game, or have to repeat a lot of stuff. Several lovely Boomers have been taking saves from people who are having trouble, and playing through the part that is difficult, then sending a new save back. Let me see if I can get in touch with one of them...
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/22/04 09:26 PM

Dadguy, you have been SO helpful. thanks I will go back and try another wakeup call. sleep
By the way I saw that you also downloaded the latest drivers from Nvidia, at least I think it was you. I did the same and still had the problem with reading hints. Did you also experience the same problems???
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/22/04 09:55 PM

Rock,

Yes, I actually downloaded the "beta" drivers. The most current are version 61.77 (I think) for my GeForce card. I downloaded the beta version 66.72 which work great (fixed numerous 3D graphic problems with sunshine and fog, plus fixed the notes view). I read somewhere that you should re-install DirectX version 9.0C after you upgrade the drivers, but I don't know if this will help.

The downside is that I have a few problems with Uru now (snow like surfaces in Relto, etc.).

But, I can live with that for now...

Let us know if the Protectors wake up.

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/23/04 06:05 AM

Welp I just finished the game. You can't play it after Atrus's speech? I wanted to go back through the game and look at some stuff.
Posted By: rockingrjranch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/23/04 03:29 PM

Dadguy, the Protectors finally woke up. I was looking in the wrong place for the middle aged lady. I swear when I did find her she said "It's about time." Could have stuck my tongue out at her.
Anyway, I am finished with the game. WHAT A GREAT GAME!!! The graphics are super along with the music. You just wanted to hang around and take it all in. Myst sets a high standard.

Thanks again for all your help. thanks

Jayne, if you are out there, it sounds as if you have also finished. I will probably go back and play again.

What's the next game to play?
Posted By: jayne

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/23/04 07:45 PM

Hi Rocking--

Congratulations!!! It's a great feeling to get it done but also pretty sad, isn't it? I love the Myst worlds.

I'm playing Sherlock Holmes Silver Earing right now but it's not the type of game I really enjoy.

I'm waiting for Atlantis Evolution (should arrive next Tues) for some serious game playing.

I've only been playing Adventure games for about a year...and not full time. Someone I know said I had a mind that was just like a Myst game (I'm not certain that was a compliment). At any rate I looked up Myst (which I first spelled Mist) on the interent and the rest is history. I enjoy games without much dialogue.

Anyway, on Tuesday/Wed I will start Atlantis Evolution. Care to join me?

Again, great job on getting it done. I can't believe you're going to do the Spider chair again! You must love mental agony and stress. smile

Take care.
Jayne
Posted By: syberia1

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/23/04 11:03 PM

okay i'm still in the chair and will be here for eons. this is really hard for me to do. the monkeys were easy compared to this. is there any way around this chair i really don't want to give up?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/24/04 04:53 AM

Syberia,

It took me about 10 tries to get it the first time. Now, as fellow Boomers have been sending me their saves and asking for a solve, I have gotten to the point where I can solve it first time; so the message is, YOU CAN DO IT! Best advice is to use the directory (page 40) and use the methods other boomers have devised to get thru it.

Keep at it! It is satisfying to beat this puzzle.

Dadguy
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/24/04 02:58 PM

Somewhere recently there was discussion of a map for Serenia. I had mapped my progress from the onset, so I had a nice little summary of how the paths worked and where the spirits were, etc.

This is embarrassingly crude, but if you view it full size, or print it out, it could help some of our explorers who like a little sense of "where am I?". duh

If anyone sees a glaring error, please feel free to post advice. Also, view it in a full page browser or else the skinny path lines disappear in some places.

Serenia Map

Dadguy
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/24/04 04:20 PM

Actually, Dadguy, I think it's a pretty darned good map!!! When I first clicked on the link, it was pretty small for my bad eyes, but then I went to "Print Preview" and I could enlarge it as much as I wanted. If I ever get to Serenia, I know I'll be using it... happydance
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/24/04 05:24 PM

I think if you just hit the maximize button on your browser it will go to max clarity.

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/25/04 03:36 PM

Is there anyway to play Revelation after you finish without starting a new game?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/25/04 09:15 PM

Dragonia,

After the ENDGAME video, you'll just get credits. So, I would just use the last save before the workshop to return to explore some more.

Dadguy
Posted By: dragonia

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/26/04 02:47 AM

So then I am up the creek because I saved my game right after I finished the last puzzle. After I get out of the chair it takes me straight in to the conversation with Atrus.
Posted By: SOLVER

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/27/04 06:11 PM

Good Afternoon...

Is there any way that the puzzle with Yeesha's
memories and the five floating objects can be
reset to the beginning?
Unfortunatly I jumped the gun and messed up most
the icons [like I knew what I was doing] and my
'saved game' reflects that...I sure hope I don't
have to go way back because I did'nt 'save' as
often as I should have...SOLVER
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/27/04 07:10 PM

Solver, I haven't experimented with it myself, but I have seen other posts in other forums that have said you CAN'T reset the puzzle. So, if you intend on following the ingame hints exactly, save at the beginning and then save at the halfway mark.

ALSO! (and this is a big ALSO...) save immediately after the dream ends and you are still in your chair!!! Otherwise, if you want to go back and experience the ENDGAME videos, you'll have to solve the memory puzzle again (ugh!).


Dadguy
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 01:29 AM

Well, what the heck????
My big nemisis with this game was changing the color "fluffs" all to white. In fact, I left the game for over a week and went back in today and got it in 5 minutes. My brain needed a long rest.
Anyway, I am now doing the door at the end of the secret tunnel. Why are the two pictures I took of the medallion on Spire devoid of color? They are just gray. Was I supposed to do something with that dang medallion other than take a picture? How do you get the color combination to show up?
Drat! Drat! Drat!

help
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 01:32 AM

Joanie, the medalion has a switch on it to open the colors. Unfortunately you will have to go back to the elevator in Spire. The elevator will still be at the top, so at least you don't have to trek down to the spider chair again.

Take a picture and write them down. Remember that when seen in the dark of the upstairs elevator location, the yellows look light-green.

Dadguy
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 01:49 AM

Bless you, Dadguy, for being here tonight. Now that I am "back in the game" I am anxious to keep the momentum going. I was AFRAID you were going to tell me to go back to Spire.
That's o.k. Fiddling around with the puzzle so far, I find it great fun.

thanks
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 02:18 AM

Joanie,

I DID tell you to go back to Spire (read again...). Sorry about that bad news; but you need those colors from the medalion.

When you get the colors, and if you get jammed, look at the FAQ doc... it has some good help.

I'll keep reading to see how you are doing. thumbsup

Dadguy
Posted By: joanieS

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 02:44 AM

No, I understood you and am beyond the door and died already. I meant that before I posted my question I dreaded that the answer was going to be to go back to Spire. Really was hoping not to see that gloomy place again. That will teach me to click around new objects a little more diligently.

Thanks again.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 12:14 PM

Ha! Got it, Joanie. I read an inflection in your "I was afraid you were going to tell me to go back to Spire" completely wrong!

You died? Pulled the wrong lever, eh?

Dadguy
Posted By: wysewomon

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/29/04 04:50 PM

Died? Gee, maybe I should go back and see that option.

Also probably thinking if you mess with the glassed- in chamber on the ground floor of the old memory place you kill everyone with poisonous gas, but I didn't do that, either... wink

WW
Posted By: Annie

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 10/31/04 02:36 PM

Wysewomon: I went into the poison chamber before finding Yeesha, and nothing awful happened. I didn't have anything to break the glass, like Achenar did. I haven't played the alternative endings for superstitious reasons. I don't want it ever to have happened that I fluffed the mission. rotfl
Posted By: charward2

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/03/04 08:35 PM

I have a question about Achenar's box in Serenia. I have found it, but I can't seem to open it and get the journal. All I get is Yeesha and the linking book falling. Do you click before you zoom out or after and where. How do I open the box.
Posted By: TLC

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/03/04 08:40 PM

Charward, Did Achenar tell you about the journal? If not, maybe you have to run into him before you can do that. wave
Posted By: smitty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/03/04 10:16 PM

I'm having a problem with the spire chair puzzle. I have the gears set,when I get all four locks to vibrate press the button on the chair nothing happens all the locks are still vibrating when i press the button on the chair and still nothing. anybody tell me what i'm doing wrong.
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/03/04 10:54 PM

Well, it could be something else, but here's a guess: the crystals in the locks can vibrate but still not unlock. You can tell that they are actually unlocked by setting one to vibrate, then using the magnifying glass to look at it closely. The lock is only unlocked when the crystal retracts fully from the hole, and you see the circular device start rotating around the crystal (the rotation of the circular device around the crystal can only be seen in close-up view).

Now that you've seen how it looks up close, try identifying when the crystal has fully retracted in regular view -- it actually does move fully into the lock and you can see a difference. If one of the locks is vibrating, but hasn't retracted fully, I don't think that it is completely unlocked.

Does this make sense?
Posted By: smitty

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/03/04 11:27 PM

Thanks Becky do you think it's because when you get close they start to vibrate but don't completely unlock, It's really hard to see the little green knobs. I'll keep trying
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/04/04 12:47 AM

Yes -- if you're close to the right settings, but not dead on, they can vibrate but not actually retract. And you're right it is VERY hard to see and count the green knobs. That's why, if you can see what the crystals look like when they retract, it actually helps you know when they're set correctly. At least it helped me when I did it.
Posted By: corana

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/04/04 01:55 PM

Have just downloaded the patch, but still stuck with the frequency puzzle in the chair in Spire, just have Serenia II to solve after this puzzle - anyone got a savefile? I'm bald, but I've had handfuls of skin off (?!) and I still can't get through it - Help!!!

Terry (Corana)
Posted By: Dawna

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 07:12 AM

I've been working on the Spirit Guide Puzzle for over a week now...and...I'm getting very frustrated. frown

I know what to do...however...when I find the "wind"...there aren't any "fluffies" withing 4 screens...and...when I find the "fluffies"...I can't find the wind within 4 screens.

Although I am physically disabled...I really don't think that is an issue for this particular puzzle. I've looked at dadguy's map of Serenia (even printed it out..!)...but...I'm still having trouble.

Can anyone make another suggestion. After one week...it just isn't fun anymore..!!!!

Thanx in advance..!!
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 12:06 PM

corana -- did anyone send you a saved game yet?

Dawna -- I'm not that far in the game, but this is an excerpt from the FAQ:

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1. If you go more than about 4 screens, the bubble/dandelion/fire thingy will pop/fly away/disappear, so if you have to go further than that, you're going to the wrong place. There are numerous wells/etc., and there are also multiple bubble/etc. generators. Each generator is within an appropriate distance (4 screens) of ONE well/tornado/fire, but not necessarily the one you're trying to get to.

2. Once you get to the proper screen, you need to click on the spirit guide. Otherwise, your bubble/etc. will pop/etc.

3. The spirit guide is only at ONE location at a time. If you walk by it and don't have an offering, it will usually change locations. So even if you manage to reach the well/etc. before you lose your offering, the guide may not be there. It might be a good idea to check where it is before you start. You can usually tell from a distance if it's there or not.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 12:17 PM

Hi Dawna,

I know that you can get the wind to within 4 screens. It is a matter of choosing the right willow tree for the location that the wind is in at any given time.

However, if you've been working on it for a week... yikes! I don't know what that equates to in hours of actual play, but that can't be fun.

I have played this part through for others with no trouble so I have noted what happens when you are successful:

- Just after you click on the spirit, and immediate sparkle and a chime-like sound. Then it continues with a more firework-like response.

If you missed it, or were late, the spirit just flops immediately down to the ground or disappears.

Let me know how you make out!

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 01:33 PM

dadguy -- I've been reading about problems with the Myst IV patch. Two gamers here are experiencing problems with it -- corana and BrownEyedTigre. Corana posted in Glitches, and BrownEyed in the Discussion forum.

Any advice on recovering from the patch? Do you think I should post that people should NOT use the patch at all until Ubi fixes it???
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 05:09 PM

Yes, I read these reports. Corona is a knowledgable and experienced gamer. I saw that the patch ruined his graphics (he posted a screen capture of a black and white graphic appearance).

The problem is that I am reluctant to load the patch now that the problems have been reported. According to Corona, he had to do a fresh install to recover.

I will have to boot to UbiSoft to respond to the issues.

Sorry I can't offer any more credible advice.

Cheers,

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 05:33 PM

Thanks dadguy. I've noted the problems with the patch in the title of all the Myst IV patch threads on the GameBoomers forums, and added links to appropriate threads on UruObsession and Ubisoft.

Avoiding this patch for now seems the better part of valor.
Posted By: Dawna

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/05/04 08:52 PM

Yes...that is many hours of gameplay. Of course...the physical challenge I suffer from does make playing much slower than 'regular' gamers. [Not whining...just stating a fact.]


I do know EXACTLY what I need to do...however...the fluffies and the spirit seem to NEVER be within 4 screens..at the same time. frown

Oh well...I must forge on..!! I'll get it...eventually..!! [I must have faith...I must have faith...I must have faith...!]
Posted By: Dudemom_2000

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/11/04 10:47 PM

Dawna, one thing I did (mine was a water spirit,though) was check where the nearest spot to the fluffies or bubbles etc. was to where the spirit was. If the spirit wasn't there I just walked on till I saw the spirit and scared it from that spot so that I scared it to the spot near my fluffies/bubbles. Then I carefully went and got the bubble and presented it to the spirit. Look for the little clearing/pool that the spirit will show up at. I am sure there is one near every supply of fire/fluffie/bubble that is only about 4 moves away. Hopefully this will help.
Posted By: satch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/12/04 07:14 PM

I am in dream and trying to do the colored clouds puzzle. I assume from reading this thread that I have to get all the clouds white, not just the ones immediately touching the center cloud.

If this is not correct, please let me know because to change all the clouds to white looks like a long and tedious task.

Thanks
Posted By: satch

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/12/04 07:29 PM

Thanks Texaslady. I've just arrived in Dream and the Water Guide has told me that all the Ancestors must be in harmony. I am using Bert Jamin's WT. The multi colored clouds have formed around the center white cloud. From the WT, it seemed I just had to get the clouds touching the center to turn white.

I did this but didn't hear the voice so I assume I'm not finished.

From reading this thread, it looks like I have to get all the clouds to turn white. Is this correct?

Thanks
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/12/04 07:34 PM

Yes, Satch, that's what you're trying to do. Here is a quote from a walkthrough about this part: SPOILER
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Red ---> Purple ---> Blue ---> Cyan ---> Green ---> Yellow ---> White

Once you get to white, the cycle will begin again. The best way of doing this,
since the clouds are arranged in an hexagonal matrix, is to trace triangles or
do zigzag motions. Now, there are some rules:

- going from a cloud to another, moves the color up one level on the sequence
above
- going back on a color that you have just changed causes no effect at first,
but if you linger to much on it or pass through it without changing colors
around it, it will force a color change on the clouds that surround it
- white clouds are a bit sturdier to the effect above but will also change if
you brush past them

So when you are ready, begin. Don't be afraid to change a white into a red if
you need to or do other shapes other than triangles (like squares) if it is
needed at sometimes. When all clouds have been changed to white, the Spirit
Guide will tell you, you have succeeded...
Posted By: Jenny

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/12/04 08:34 PM

Sue, that walkthrough of Coehlo Buda is a good one--I used it all the time until the GB Quest came along. It's still a very good source for directions all laid out in one place...
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/21/04 03:02 AM

Here's another attempt to make the spider chair challenge a bit easier. Strategies are on top, and then the moves are listed. (Thanks to dadguy for his help with this.)

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Spider Chair Strategy:

1. Before setting the sliders on the spider chair you must be certain that the gears under the chair are set correctly. Instructions for this are on page 24. If you push all three sliders to the very top of the console, and the knight in the top right lock does NOT tremble and retract, then you know that the gears aren’t set correctly.
2. Setting the sliders is tricky. The slider opening/window tends to “slip” downwards. Put the center of the slider window slightly ABOVE the green circle marker you’re aiming for – it’s more likely to stick there.
3. When you pull the slider to the bottom, there is a slot ZERO possible below slot 1. Make sure you don't go too low when trying to set slot #1.
4. Each slider sequence (i.e., 6-12-4 is one sequence) can be set in any order – you don’t have to go left, center, right each time.
5. Once the first two sliders are in position for a sequence, you don’t have to accurately set the third slider at all – you just have to move the third slider up or down PAST the third setting, hitting it for only an instant as you continue to the next setting without letting go.
6. The final setting is easy – just bring all the sliders up to the top as fast as you can. Even here, though, they can slip down – make sure they’re completely at the top.
7. The order of the settings: 6-12-4, 3-1-7, 10-5-5, 12-12-12.


Here is the step-by-step fastest order for tuning the Spider Chair Crystals

RIGHT SLIDER to 4.
LEFT SLIDER to 6. (Timed portion doesn’t begin until you set the center slider.)
CENTER SLIDER to 12 up at the very top (don’t let go) CENTER SLIDER to 1.
LEFT SLIDER to 3.
RIGHT SLIDER past 7 (don’t let go), then down to 5.
CENTER SLIDER to 5 (center slider knob on a horizontal line with the right slider knob).
LEFT SLIDER TO 12 (go past 10 without stopping).
CENTER SLIDER TO 12.
RIGHT SLIDER TO 12.
Posted By: ingse

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/21/04 10:03 AM

I`m stuck in the puzzle with the camoudile and the mangrees. I just can`t get the sounds right!
Could anyone of you please help me with a saved game?
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/23/04 11:50 PM

Becky, well done!! bravo bravo bravo

If anyone has had trouble with the Spider Chair Crystal Tuning puzzle, take a look at Becky's puzzle giude above. It is the ultimate step by step guide for beating the timed puzzle!

Thanks, Becky!

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/28/04 03:27 PM

Well, lagging well behind almost everybody else, I finished the game yesterday. What a great game!

I have one question (so far):

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WAS Yeesha's galaxy-looking thing among them? I never found one that didn't change color. And why didn't Sirris's brain-lock appear the whole time? Wasn't he controlling her mind the whole time? Why did the brain-lock only appear when we went back into the world of dream near the end?

Anyway, I was wondering: if you were prepared to cheat, could you leave the world of dream WITHOUT finishing the turning-everything-white puzzle, and still be able to do the marble door lock? In other words, is the solution at the end of the turning-everything-white puzzle always the same (red, green, dark blue make white -- light blue, yellow, pink make white).

Edit: I guess this was more than just one question.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 12:33 AM

Hi Becky! Congrats on finishing.

I never tried the door puzzle without the cloud puzzle. My guess is that you can finish without it.

But, you could be a pioneer and try it from a save before the cloud puzzle and let us all know!

Maybe someone else has already done that...

Cheers,

Dadguy
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 01:54 AM

Becky,
Congratulations on finishing the game! thumbsup

Yeesha's cloud was the only one that didn't change color, but it was hard to find once so many others became white.

As far as seeing Sirrus' lock on Yeesha's mind, remember that going into the dreamworld the first time was to get the ancestors in sync so that they could help you figure out what was happening to Yeesha.

As far as completing the door puzzle before the getting the ancestors in sync, you would have trouble doing it because you needed the color clues from completing the cloud puzzle.

Did anyone else get to see the other endings depending on what you did with the levers? Did you view the brothers in the other room before you sat in the chair?
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 03:03 AM

Lady K -- I saw some of the alternate endings.

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I tried the OTHER lever, then tried not choosing any lever at all. After that, I did try wandering around the place after choosing the correct lever, and was surprised to see what happened with Achenar. It's too bad seeing that sequence isn't more obvious -- I think the logical thing is to just do as he says and go into the chair right away, rather than following him against his instructions.
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 03:13 AM

Just thought of more questions:

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In Haven, after finally solving the final Mangree puzzle, I saw a kind of compass in one of the trees. But I don't remember ever using the information on it anywhere. If you don't need that information (and if you don't mind missing the fun ride at the end of the tree-top climb) could you leave Haven without ever solving the final Mangree puzzle?

In fact, is there anything in Haven that you must do in order to finish Serenia (and the game)?

I think I feel a replay of Revelation coming on.
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 03:26 AM

You could have walked back to the beach area anytime from the jungle. I found my way back after wandering around in the jungle for a while. However, you needed to know how to release the knot snake, which was your last task before that wild ride.
Posted By: dadguy

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 04:38 AM

LK and Becky, I haven't explored the other endings other than the one you get from choosing the wrong lever. I am intrigued that you might be able to explore after a different choice! I don't remember that. I'll give it a look.

Dadguy
Posted By: Becky

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 09:31 PM

Lady K -- you are right, you need to see the "instructions" for the snake.

I was just wondering if someone, after repeatedly playing and failing the final Mangree puzzle, could just skip the puzzle and still finish the game. I suspect that, if they got a cheat for the knot snake challenge in Serenia, they could skip the Mangree puzzle altogether. They'd miss that fun ride at the end of Haven, but it would be better than abandoning the game altogether out of sheer frustration.
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 11/29/04 09:51 PM

I suppose the cheat might work, but I don't know. It's funny, but once I figured out the logic and got my mangarees all lined up in the proper places, it only took me 5 tries to overcome the camodile. It was sort of like the chair in Spire. A bit of practice made for success.
Posted By: Billy the Kid 64

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/02/04 08:01 PM

I have a question regaurding this puzzle. I have tried doing this many many times and connot do it. does all the commands have to be entered in at once,or just one at a time by turning the sound divices. Is there a starting point for the sound devices. cannot get any of the mangrees to leave there nests. Please Help. Bill
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/02/04 10:00 PM

First of all, I assume you have found all of the sound codes for the mangarees and the alarm call. If the camoudile is under a nest, the mangaree in that nest won't move, and they also won't move unless the next nest is empty. The idea is to move the mangarees around so that the white one, who has the strongest throwing arm, is in the left nest. When the camoudile falls in the pit, he can throw the fruit and hit the plant.

If you get the camoudile under the left nest with the right one empty, save your game. All you have to do then is make the call to move a mangaree into the leftmost nest. As soon as the mangaree begins to move, make the alarm call. If you don't do it in time, reload and try again.
Posted By: Papa Terry

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/03/04 01:50 AM

Okay, I've tried Becky's method and I still can't get past the crystals in the Spider Chair. I think it might have to do with this new Trak Ball I'm using for a mouse. In any event I've been at this now for 3 days - anyone have a saved game????
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/03/04 02:54 AM

Hi, Papa Terry,
I don't have a save for you, but just in case you didn't realize it, the patch is supposed to slow the timing down on this a bit. Also, did you increase the speed of your cursor from the default setting under options? I found that helped me move a bit quicker from cable to cable. I used an optic mouse, however, so you could be right about the trackball. Sorry I can't be of more help to you.
Posted By: Papa Terry

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/03/04 05:33 AM

TLC, please CYE and thanks, your right Texas Lady, he/she is a very nice person.

Lady Kestrel, what patch would you be refering too. Am I remiss in not keeping up with game patches????
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/03/04 05:53 PM

You can find the game patches here, Papa Terry:
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Posted By: desertlilac

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/13/04 01:28 AM

Never have been on a thread like this but here goes. Not sure where to fit this post in or on what page.
Am in Haven trying to wake up a snake in a tree - been at it for a week now, have checked the locket but still the viper sleeps. Keep cursor on last stripe on right coil but seems to not be very productive.
Posted By: LadyKestrel

Re: Myst IV Revelation Quest Here -- Directory for Puzzle Help Page 40 -- Spoiler Alert - 12/13/04 01:40 AM

You must move (click and drag) your cursor finger along that bottom right stripe from right to left 4 times, Desertlilac.
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