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no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome

Posted By: cyanne

no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 01/30/14 06:13 PM

I am kind of fed up with zombies games. A little bit is ok like "Amnesia machine for pigs" or "dark descent", but too much is too much.
Waiting impatiently for Jonathan Boarkes games. When will he release his "Last crown? Did all the "dark fall" and "Lost crown. I am a big fan of his stories. Since I am french be tolerant for my english lol. Love you site its the best.
Posted By: Marian

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 01/30/14 06:36 PM

welcome to GameBoomers, cyanne, and amusez-vous bien. smile

Zombies seem to be popular in games right now, but happily if you don't like zombies there are plenty of other games out there where zombies aren't involved. grin

I loved The Lost Crown and am really looking forward to The Last Crown. No firm release date yet, but it will be posted here when there is one.

Oh, and your English is good. wave
Posted By: Rushes

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 01/30/14 08:33 PM

Hi cyanne, welcome to GameBoomers.

Zombies seem to be more prevalent in the Action or Casual genre. I can't think of too many recent adventure games where they have been dominant. I would rather say that we are currently lacking in any decent horror/mystery games with realistic graphics, a solid plot and decent puzzles. But that's just my own bugbear. wink Hopefully those that are currently in development will be released sooner rather than later.
Posted By: venus

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 01/31/14 12:40 AM

welcome to Gameboomers, cyanne!

Interesting, I never thought there were very many zombies in adventure games. There's The Walking Dead, but that seemed a very unique thing to me, though I know they are very prevalent in other genres. Personally, I'm not usually into zombies, but I loved The Walking Dead and am also really enjoying season 2 so far.

I'm definitely with you on waiting for Jonathan Boakes games, though. I believe Blackenrock - a game that takes place in between The Lost Crown and The Last Crown - should be out fairly soon. Also Moebius, a game by Jane Jensen, should be coming out fairly soon, probably within the next couple of months, I would guess. It doesn't involve ghosts, but it deals with the supernatural - and no zombies. grin I would definitely recommend those games when they come out. Unfortunately, as Rushes said, I can't think of any more recent games that fit your criteria. Though, have you tried 2012's The Testament of Sherlock Holmes? It doesn't deal with ghosts, but it is a mystery game and has a lot of great plot twists. I'm playing it myself right now and really enjoying it. smile
Posted By: BubbaJake

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 01/31/14 04:04 PM

I agree with you, Rushes. Actually, I haven't found any adventure games particularly scary. Some Jonathan Boakes games have good creep levels, but games that I THINK were supposed to be scary were just interesting to me (Scratches) and not even creepy. Zombies are more interesting to me than vampires (more annoying than anything) werewolves (go away, please) or other 'monsters', (aliens are OK). Ghosts are also more interesting, which is why like Jonathan Boakes' games more than most others. The game by Matt Clark (Barrow Hill) had a very good creep level and held my interest, also, as with the game 'Rhiannon', though neither was 'scary'.
Posted By: venus

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 01/31/14 11:15 PM

I actually found The Lost Crown very scary the first time I played it and had to stop for a while before I worked up my courage to get back to it. lol I'm easily affected, I suppose. lol Now, since I know everything that's coming and have played it many more times, I've mellowed on it considerably, so any sequels are probably going to throw me for a loop, seeing as how I've been lulled into a "false" calm. grin

Actually, when done right, I far prefer vampires over zombies. The TV show, Buffy the Vampire Slayer handled them very well, at least as far as characterizations were concerned. A writer can do a lot with vampires, as they have very long histories, which can lend itself to a lot of character complexity, as opposed to zombies, who just walk around, make zombie sounds and eat people. Not a lot going on there. lol The Walking Dead games are an exception to the rule for me, and it's because of what's going on around the zombies that it works so well for me. I haven't really seen a game get vampires right yet, though. Even one of my favorite games, Gabriel Knight 3 didn't work as well as it did because of the vampires, which were not very well developed at all, but because of its great in depth plot as well as its focus on Gabriel and Grace's relationship. Also, there was the fantastic Le Serpent Rouge puzzle. yes

I am in agreement with you on how interesting ghosts can be though, BubbaJake, and I think The Lost Crown did a fantastic job with its ghosts. Each one has an interesting story behind it; they aren't there just to scare Nigel, who's really pretty stoic anyway. I couldn't believe all the things he remained unaffected by. lol
Posted By: Salar of Myst

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 02:07 AM

I haven't seen many zombies in the point & click adventure genre, though they seem to dominate everywhere else lol

I am also looking forward to Boakes' next game. I have very much enjoyed all his adventures to date smile
Posted By: Darleen03

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 02:10 AM

I think this Zombie thing has gotten started with all the programs on TV...Like Walking Dead Etc, Etc.....

I personally dislike any game play with killing Zombies.....Like WTH ...How many Zombies can you kill.....Its so boring...

My Opinion.... grin
Posted By: Mad

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 03:06 PM

I must have missed out somewhere because I don't recall ever having played an Adventure game that featured zombies rolleyes
Posted By: Rushes

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 04:37 PM

Mad, the only adventure game series I can think of right now is The Walking Dead, as venus mentioned above. They seem to pop up everywhere in shooters, though!
Posted By: Mad

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 04:49 PM

Hi Rushes smile

Not ever having been much of a fan of zombies, I've never even looked at The Walking Dead - and I never play Shooters whistle

So I guess I've escaped 'em all lol

Cheers.

Mad frenchie
Posted By: BubbaJake

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 05:08 PM

I'm actually a fan of The Walking Dead, but it doesn't mean that's all I like. One little game that actually gave me the willies in one or two of its segments, is an old one. I remember having to play it down in my family room, alone at night. That game was 'Amber'.
Posted By: Jenny100

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Mad
I must have missed out somewhere because I don't recall ever having played an Adventure game that featured zombies

Well there is ***Zombieville***. Zombieville was one of the entries in the "Dungeon of Shame" over at JA.

And I'm not sure if ***Silverload*** had zombies because I've never played it, but apparently it had vampires, werewolves, and ghouls so it might have had zombies in there somewhere. Silverload was also an entry in the "Duntion of Shame."

Other entries in the "Dungeon of Shame" include The Scroll, The Orion Conspiracy, and Spud, but they don't seem to have zombies (though The Scroll may have mummies, which is sort of close).

***Nocturne*** had zombies, though it's more of an action/adventure that some people claimed adventure gamers would like, like ***Blair Witch***, which also had zombies. Since these were action/adventures, they were excluded from the Dungeon of Shame.

The situation of ***real-life zombies***, where they've been poisoned so part of their brain is destroyed, is very sad.
Posted By: Mad

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 06:50 PM

I have attempted some of the games you list, Jenny100, but gave up on them for various reasons :

Silverload .. A "game stopping bug" put paid to that one.

Nocturne .. Yes. I remember zombies in that. But the game controls were absolutely awful and drove me mad. I had to eventually give up on it. However, I would never have classed it as Adventure. Definitely Action/Adventure as far as I'm concerned.

Blair Witch .. More dismal controls and so boring and none scary. I tried all three in the series and thought they were all as bad as each other.
[I also saw the film and thought that was pathetic too !!]

The Scroll .. This one I did actually complete but it was next to the worst game I've ever played. [The worst being The Sacred Mirror of Kofun thumbsdown ]
Posted By: cyanne

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 07:17 PM

Thanks all for the welcome!
Ok guys! What I meant by Disliking with Zombie I also included Walking death witch I find kind of boring.I have seen the movie the Walking dead (movie)and did not really enjoy it even if it is considered artistic.

Here are the games I like. Love all the Sherlock Holmes (except hidden objects one). Have played them all and looking forward to the new one Crime and Punishment, but it will come out only in summer sniff. I just loved the 3 Black mirror, Scratches, . I played barrow hill, Dracula, Dark descent Amnesia machine for pigs where there where some monster and they where more scary because being scarces. The tempo is the art of terror. Also loved Syberia serie (One of my first game). I am waiting also for Asylum but I am afraid they added a little too much or many monsters in it. Anyway we will see. I am Baag freak for those mystery game.

I made intensive reshearch on the net to find what is coming in 2014. There is not much fps and point and click mystery or ghost game coming in the first or even 2nd quarterly.

One movie I would like to see in a game is "The haunting" (the old 1965 one not the new one) I can imagine the sound and the suggested malefic presence.
Posted By: venus

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/01/14 09:31 PM

Cyanne, do you mean The Walking Dead TV show? If so, I actually far prefer the game(s) and find the writing much better. (Though, admittedly, the game did get me to start watching the show. lol) At first, I dismissed the game as well because I didn't think I would have any interest in it, but later saw one of my favorite Let's Players playing it on YouTube and knew I had to get it for myself. In this case, I was glad to have been proven wrong, and it's one of my favorite games now. Of course, it may still not work for you, and that's fine too. Just putting it out there as someone who generally has the same take on zombies that you do. smile

Since you like Sherlock Holmes, have you tried the game Cognition? It's a crime/mystery game about an FBI agent, Erica Reed who has the power to see the past. I thought it was really well done, and it was probably my favorite game of 2013. Phoneix Online are the developers, and Jane Jensen was their story consultant. Raleigh Holmes, Jane Jensen's stepdaughter did a fantastic job as the voice of Erica Reed.

Also, a little on the lighter side, do you have any interest in Broken Sword? The first part of the fifth game in the series is out, and the second part should be out sometime in March, I think. It deals with murder mystery as well as historical mystery.
Posted By: ipad_Lover

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/02/14 01:37 PM


Zombies are popular everywhere right now. The survival horror game "The last of Us" which got the "PS3 Game of the Year" award was a Zombie game.

"The Walking Dead" which got every award you could wish for was a Zombie adventure game.

If you like Ghost stories I recommend "Haunted", and the "Black Mirror" series.
Posted By: LeBelleRachael

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/02/14 04:02 PM

Well I for one am with cyanne! I encounter enough zombies and walking dead in day to day life to want to play a game about them! hardwall
Posted By: ipad_Lover

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/02/14 08:44 PM

I got "Scratches" for 99 cents at a clearance sale was so happy that it turned out to be an excellent game.

I would also recommend "Barrow Hill" for an excellent horror adventure game that has No Zombies in it!
Posted By: Rushes

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/02/14 09:37 PM

Yes, those are two cracking games, ipad. thumbsup
Posted By: ipad_Lover

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/04/14 12:24 AM

Of course Dark Fall 1 and 2 should also be played - those are great ghost stories.

I got Barrow Hill, Dark Fall 1 and Dark Fall 2 in a collector's edition with a spooky audio CD for a vey low price - this made my day when I got it!
Posted By: BubbaJake

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/04/14 02:26 AM

Cyanne, never heard of that movie, but I don't think it has anything to do with the show 'The Walking Dead' which is episodic and requires more than one viewing to get any real understanding. That being said, I don't play zombie games and other than those mentioned here by others, don't know of any other than that one based on 'The Walking Dead'.
I probably wouldn't play them anyway.
Posted By: venus

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/04/14 04:51 AM

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If you like Ghost stories I recommend "Haunted", and the "Black Mirror" series.


Good recommendations, ipad_Lover. Haunted is a lighter, comedy game. The Black Mirror series is darker, and in my opinion, even better. smile

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Well I for one am with cyanne! I encounter enough zombies and walking dead in day to day life to want to play a game about them! hardwall

As I said, I had the same opinion but quickly changed it once I actually played the game.

Also, one ghost related game I can't believe I forgot to mention is Gray Matter. It is similar in tone to the Black Mirror games and like Moebius is written by Jane Jensen. Personally, I find her one of the best game writers out there. smile
Posted By: BubbaJake

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/04/14 05:47 PM

Is 'Gray Matter' actually 'scary'? You compared it to 'Black Mirror' which I played twice and found it well made, but NOT find it scary in the least.
Posted By: Rushes

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/04/14 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: BubbaJake
Is 'Gray Matter' actually 'scary'? You compared it to 'Black Mirror' which I played twice and found it well made, but NOT find it scary in the least.


Less scary but more atmospheric, perhaps? There was a certain quality of "stillness" about Gray Matter that I thought quite effective.
Posted By: venus

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/04/14 06:52 PM

What Rushes said. grin You're right, I didn't find the Black Mirror games scary at all, nor did I find Gray Matter scary. All four were great games, though. smile
Posted By: cyanne

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/06/14 07:39 PM

Venus and all

I did all the cognition and broken sword, Forgot to mention Most mortem 2 and 3.
I agreee that Black mirror serie and Gray matter are not scary game. But I find Black mirror witch I did twice, all 3 of them (rarely I play a game twice) is a great fascinating game. Wish there would be more of that kind or even a follow-up. Scratches puts your nerves in a ball and is hair rising, really enjoyed that one. (See! I am a bad case of baag lol)

About Walking death I was refering to the old movie "The night of the walking deaths" year 1975 witch is considering artistic in the cinema world. But it did bored me.

Since there is nothing for me on the game market I think I will redo Amnesia Dark descent.
Posted By: Marian

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/06/14 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: cyanne
One movie I would like to see in a game is "The haunting" (the old 1965 one not the new one) I can imagine the sound and the suggested malefic presence.


Great movie - and the book by Shirley Jackson, on which the movie is based, is outstanding.
Posted By: venus

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/07/14 07:51 PM

Cyanne, yes I'd just wait a little while. I think there are a lot of games yet to be released that you would probably be interested in, but unfortunately they're just not out yet. Keep an eye out for Blackenrock. I'm hoping it will be released within the next couple of months, but it has been delayed a few times, so we may have to wait longer than we'd like. Still, I think that is the game that best matches your criteria, and hopefully it won't be too much longer.
Posted By: cyanne

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/08/14 10:39 PM

Hi
It might be beside the subject but I just did Dracula Origin for the 2nd time. Something is bothering me is, in the credits they do not mention who wrote this beautiful music. I tried to find out on the net and I came with a Japanese name and they don't mention much about it. Does anyone know who did composed it?
It might be old style but I just love that game. (And what a gorgeous Dracula, witch we don't see very often in the game lol)

2 months to wait for blackenrock, I will go crazy waiting and like venus said it has been delayed so many times.

I impatient to see the new frogware game Call of Chtulu also. In my youth I used to like Lovecraft. Not all his books but a few. The graphic looks gorgeous, for me anyway.

Marian
I read the book by S. Jackson about 3 times and saw the movies at least 6 times hehe. We should ask Jonathan Boarke to do it.
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/08/14 10:50 PM

You can see the credits here for Dracula Origins.
Posted By: flotsam

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/15/14 06:35 AM

Ok, I am going into bat for the zombies zombie
Not all zombies are alike. I do enjoy The Walking Dead (series. graphic novel and game)but for a different take try the French series The Returned (about to be remade in English as Resurrection) or the English series In the Flesh. Both intelligent and different looks at the phenomena, and if you like ghosts I defy you not to like The Returned.
Then there is the slightly cheesy movie Warm Bodies, or the horrific 28 Days Later in which the living are almost worst than the dead, a la Lord of the Flies.
Then read I Am Legend. The Will Smith movie version is ok but avoid the Heston version (The Omega Man).
Zombie Le Chuck was a bit of fun too.
Who could forget the British band The Zombies wrote and first performed the much re-recorded She's Not There.
And Pride and Prejudice has never been more entertaining devil
Whats not to like razz
Posted By: ipad_Lover

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/16/14 04:56 PM

I do think that zombies in all media are quite popular - but there are many great ghost adventures games that are great and well worth playing.

One of which was The Ghost of Thorton Hall - which was scary in a cool way which for a Nancy Drew game was a nice surprise.
Posted By: traveler

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/16/14 05:12 PM

Night of the Living Dead was the first and last zombie movie for me and I have no desire whatever to play a game full of them or watch a TV series about them.
What there is about watching dead, decaying human beings lurch about menacing the living that's so enthralling is completely beyond me.
I'm with the OP.
Ugh.

Gil.
Posted By: LeBelleRachael

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 02/16/14 05:33 PM

"Mephistopheles. devil

My thanks for that, for with the dead I’ve never got
Myself entangled of my own volition.
I like full, fresh cheeks best of all the lot.
I’m not at home when corpses seek my house;
I feel about it as a cat does with a mouse." devilchili


Goethe's Faust
Posted By: gruffy

Re: no more zombies please - ghost stories welcome - 03/07/14 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: cyanne


One movie I would like to see in a game is "The haunting" (the old 1965 one not the new one) I can imagine the sound and the suggested malefic presence.
love to see that film made into a game! Maybe the bloke who did the deleware st john series would give it a go.
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