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Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths ....

Posted By: Mad

Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 05/27/19 02:31 AM

People like me !! laugh

I spent hours this weekend trying to perfect a DOS install of "The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes : The Case of the Serrated Scalpel" !!

Managed it - but I had forgotten so much of how to do it - because it's a very long time now since I actually attempted to install anything in DOS slapforehead
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 05/27/19 02:35 AM

Good for you for having the patience to get the job done. It's a game that's definitely worth that hassle. yes wave
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 05/30/19 04:50 AM

I agree, Marian. Although whether I'll still agree when I get to the lengthy
darts sessions
remains to be seen !! lol
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 05/30/19 01:53 PM

Well, good luck with that!! grin
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 05/31/19 08:12 AM

Thanks, Marian. I will need it !! yes But I will still enjoy myself grin
Posted By: Jenny100

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 05/31/19 11:29 PM

I think I still have it installed on an old computer -- set it up back in the early 2000's.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/01/19 11:01 AM

Do you think you ever give it another play, Jenny100 ??
Posted By: Jenny100

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/01/19 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mad
Do you think you ever give it another play, Jenny100 ??

Maybe some day.
I think I've played it twice.
From what I remember, Case of the Rose Tattoo was better.
Unfortunately both games had a dartboard.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/01/19 04:21 PM

Yes. I, too, have played it twice before - but it's a long time since my last go.

And I agree that the Rose Tattoo is the better game of the two.

However I DO like them both.

For the day they were really good games, I thought thumbsup thumbsup
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/01/19 04:22 PM

I keep hoping that GOG will get these games some day.
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/01/19 04:29 PM

Allvideo has Case of the Rose Tatoo.
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/01/19 05:15 PM

Yes, I have noticed that, oldbroad. I run the game in DOSBox, but it is good to know there is another source for it for players. smile
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/03/19 02:57 PM

Well. I am currently in the pub .... playing .... "guess what" .... and doing very badly !! taz
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/04/19 04:44 AM

Did you do it in DOSbox Mad or on a suitably old machine.
And well done btw - the last time I tried didn't go anywhere near as well!
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/04/19 07:14 AM

I installed it to DOS - on my Win98 machine.
(Which has DOS 6.2 if I am remembering correctly.)

All my attempts to use DOSbox have been total flops - since I first ever tried.
I just don't understand it blush


EDIT :
Victory at the pub !!!! dance
[Although I think there might be more to contend with later in the game ....]
Posted By: Jenny100

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/05/19 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mad
I installed it to DOS - on my Win98 machine.
(Which has DOS 6.2 if I am remembering correctly.)

The DOS that comes with Windows 95 is DOS 7.0
The DOS that comes with Windows 98 is DOS 7.1

Originally Posted by Mad
EDIT :
Victory at the pub !!!!
[Although I think there might be more to contend with later in the game ....]

Congratulations!
Hopefully no more darts required.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/05/19 03:03 PM

"The DOS that comes with Windows 95 is DOS 7.0
The DOS that comes with Windows 98 is DOS 7.1
"

Shows how good my memory is, Jenny100 !! whistle
[I can't remember where on the computer to look, to find out, either.]

Anyway, hopefully, my memory is just as faulty concerning how many darts sessions there are in the game - because I had thought there were more to come duh

EDIT :

Had a very frustrating time this afternoon. No matter what I did I couldn't trigger a vital location to appear on the map eek and spent a looooong time re-visiting every location that WAS showing and "re-talking" to EVERY person in EVERY location until all conversation options had been used up.
I finally cracked it when I discovered just ONE person had ONE further options than was originally apparent - even after it appeared all HAD been used.
Talk about hardwall hardwall hardwall
Still lovin' this old game, though rotfl
Posted By: frazap

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/07/19 12:56 PM

Both The Serrated Scalpel and The Case of the Rose Tattoo supposedly work with ScummVM now. https://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/ So should be easy to get them running without DOS/DosBox or buying again from GOG.
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/07/19 01:29 PM

That's right, frazap - I had forgotten that. ScummVM is great. wave
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/07/19 05:40 PM

Thanks for that info, frazap, but I'm "technically challenged" to the nth Degree and tend to stick with what I know blush
Posted By: Jenny100

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/07/19 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mad
Thanks for that info, frazap, but I'm "technically challenged" to the nth Degree and tend to stick with what I know blush

ScummVM is way easier to use than DOSBox.

All you have to do do is copy game files to your hard drive and point ScummVM to the folder where you copied them.

If you know how to browse folders in Windows, you can use ScummVM.
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/07/19 06:47 PM

That is just what I was thinking, Jenny. ScummVM is much easier to use.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/07/19 07:32 PM

Well, thank you both for that. I will bear it in mind thumbsup
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/10/19 01:10 AM

Me too, and will give it a go
Posted By: Tally Ho

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/10/19 12:27 PM

Having read this post, I decided to try scumm. (Have used Dosbox before, but it's a bit of a challenge.)
So easy! Downloaded and installed scumm; decided to try Shivers.
Created a new folder C:/Shivers and copied the CD contents into that folder.
Told scumm: New game, and pointed it to that folder - and BOOM! it worked perfectly. Sound and all!
Only one other tweak; changed the screen resolution because it plays in a window of it's own, and won't go full-screen.

Ixupi's beware - here I come!

I expect all old games will not be so cooperative, but hey! It's something.
Posted By: frazap

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/10/19 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Tally Ho
Having read this post, I decided to try scumm. (Have used Dosbox before, but it's a bit of a challenge.)
So easy! Downloaded and installed scumm; decided to try Shivers.
Created a new folder C:/Shivers and copied the CD contents into that folder.
Told scumm: New game, and pointed it to that folder - and BOOM! it worked perfectly. Sound and all!
Only one other tweak; changed the screen resolution because it plays in a window of it's own, and won't go full-screen.

Ixupi's beware - here I come!

I expect all old games will not be so cooperative, but hey! It's something.


Alt-TAB makes ScummVM play the game in full screen. And take you back to windowed mode if you should want.

Always good to read the data files document for the game you intend to play. Sometimes small extra steps are needed, like renaming some files from multi-disc games after copying them to HD (Gabriel Knight 2 and Broken Sword for example). And many files on the CDs are not needed and would only take up space on the HD. https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Datafiles
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/12/19 06:13 PM

I'm getting towards the end of the game, now, but I have enjoyed myself SO much I think I will just HAVE to carry on in the same vein and play The Rose Tattoo next laugh laugh laugh
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/12/19 06:37 PM

Wonderful! dance
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/13/19 07:45 PM

Yep laugh Now started the Rose Tattoo yay
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/13/19 07:50 PM

Enjoy it to the max, Mad! thumbsup
Posted By: Tally Ho

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/13/19 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Marian
Enjoy it to the max, Mad! thumbsup


Or is that "Mad Max?" hehehehe
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/13/19 10:34 PM

Who knows ???? evil

[And thanks, Marian grin]
Posted By: flotsam

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/16/19 05:24 AM

Well you convinced me on Scumm so off to download!
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/29/19 09:11 PM

I'm well into my re-play of The Rose Tattoo now and it is holding up amazingly well. A truly excellent oldie thumbsup

The conversation trees are just about as "picky" as they were in The Serrated Scalpel so do need care - but the way the characters look and move around on screen in this later game is massively improved and very realistic for such an old game.

And the voice acting for both Holmes and Watson is extremely good.

lol Just needed to share my enthusiasm !! lol
Posted By: Marian

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/29/19 09:20 PM

Great to hear your thoughts about the game, Mad. I need to play this again. joy2
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/29/19 10:11 PM

I'm glad you're enjoying yourself Mad, but what exactly do you mean when you say the conversation trees are "picky"? I've thought about buying this game but never convinced myself.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/30/19 02:04 AM

Hi Marion. I know very well you would enjoy it. It's just finding the time .... right ??

Hi oldbroad.
The conversation trees show as lines of text to click on with a scroll down slider at the side.
But I had to constantly check, after clicking on ALL the lines, as to whether another had suddenly "appeared ".
(The same thing went on throughout the Serrated Scalpel game.)
Just takes a bit of extra care and attention and doesn't detract from my overall enjoyment yes
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/30/19 03:21 AM

Okay. Thanks for the explanation Mad. That doesn't sound too bad.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Some People Go To Ridiculous lengths .... - 06/30/19 04:32 AM

You seem to enjoy plenty of oldies, oldbroad and I reckon you would like this one too laugh
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