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Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! #204093
09/18/07 10:45 AM
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We need your help!


Yoomujak's Ring is a Full Motion Video (FMV) adventure published a few months ago in Hungary by Private Moon, the developers of the AGON series. The game was filmed using some of Hungary's best known actors. It's a historical adventure set in the town of Eger.


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The developers have offered GameBoomers exclusive access to the Yoomurjak's Ring demo. They would like comments from anyone with a broadband connection who can download and play the demo. You will find that: "The demo is fully subtitled, with some images and locations also retouched to include English text instead of Hungarian, where it was important for understanding the game."

Once you have played the demo enough to have an opinion, please fill out the poll below. The poll asks about your impression of the demo generally (you can vote using 1 to 5 stars). Then it asks your opinion about how best to modify the game for English language gamers.


The more people who play and fill out the poll, the more helpful this will be to the developers!


You can download the demo, which is 650 MB here or here. You will need a broadband connection, as the demo is large. Download times so far have ranged between 40 minutes and 5 hours.

Thank you. thumbsup




How much did you enjoy the demo? (Highest ranking = five stars.)
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Votes accepted starting: 09/18/07 10:37 AM
Did you like the game's localization (the way it has been changed into an English-language version)?
single choice
Votes accepted starting: 09/18/07 10:41 AM
Would you buy the full game?
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Votes accepted starting: 09/18/07 10:44 AM
Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Becky] #204105
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Thanks, Becky.

Come on Boomers, it's your chance to tell the developers what you think and help them make valued and weighed decisions.

Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: MaG] #204126
09/18/07 12:21 PM
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I'm sorry with my dial-up I can't help out, but I know our wonderful members with broadband will note that the developers have entrusted Gameboomers with this in trying to make a better game. That's a nice compliment!


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: MaG] #204127
09/18/07 12:23 PM
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Thanks Becky...

I will download it tonite & play ..then vote..

I have broadband...This should be Cool cool


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Darleen03] #204151
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I also have broadband, so I'll download it tonight & try it out tomorrow. Judy


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: judith] #204161
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Thanks to everyone who's helping out! praise

Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Becky] #204163
09/18/07 01:52 PM
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Downloading even as we speak. I will be glad to play and vote. It's really cool that our opinion is requested.

"Q"


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: qadventuregames] #204187
09/18/07 03:06 PM
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I downloaded the game and looked at it for a few minutes. It looks nice. I will play it tomorrow and vote. Thanks for the chance to play the demo and give imput. wave


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: connie] #204206
09/18/07 03:55 PM
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This is really a wonderful game. Sure is a long demo to. Been playing for a half hour and still not done. Really smooth controls. I't easier to read the subtitles and not use the speakers. Sure get a good view of Eger Hungary. On my way to vote.
Richard


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: kjos] #204241
09/18/07 05:21 PM
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Not at all impressed...

Graphics are not what I expected..& too much panning...I personally hate that...

Game has potential ...Needs work....

I would suggest getting rid of that panning camera duh
All In all very nice game....But not my type of game.
Easy interface<Menu use is nice>

My opinion

Thanks

Last edited by Darleen2003; 09/18/07 05:26 PM.

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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Darleen03] #204255
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I thank the developer for looking to the gamer for opinions.

The graphics are very good
Full Motion Video, very good
Controls are also very good


But after playing for thirty minutes I still did not know what the story was. The subtitles were going by much too fast and if I looked up to view what was happening I missed what was said. I found myself just staring at the bottom of the screen trying to read as fast as I could. I missed a lot and what I did get to read I couldn't absorb.

Thank you Private Moon Studios for seeking our input but if the game is not dubbed in English with either full lip sync or no lip sync I could not purchase and play. Been waiting a long time for this FMV game and it looks to be a wonderful game.

Last edited by GreyFuss; 09/18/07 05:48 PM.

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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: GreyFuss] #204263
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Did you vote Grefuss?

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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: texaslady] #204303
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Yes Texaslady I did. I thought the developer would appreciate comments in addition to the poll.


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: GreyFuss] #204305
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Hi smile

I am going to download this although I am a bit pushed for spare time right now eek

But I will get to it and I will do the poll thumbsup

How terrific to be consulted !!!! bravo bravo bravo

Cheers.

Mad wave


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: GreyFuss] #204307
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I really liked this demo. Easy use of controls and the menu in the corner doesn't take up much of the view. I voted positively on this, but I do agree with Darleen about the panning. I became a little motion sick - I would have liked the option of clicking on the right screen or left to change directions rather than the 360 pan. Other than that, looks like a pretty good game in the works!! wave


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Renee] #204359
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So far I like it. I am not saying that I love it, though. I don't know what to think right now. So I will save my comments for later.

Although, can anyone tell me what the eastern like code spells out? I can't figure that part out.

Thanks,
Preston

Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Preston C.] #204360
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Preston,

If you need hint or help - best to post at Hints forum.

Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: MaG] #204389
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I just voted. It is a very nice game, but I also feel I missed alot while reading the words. There is too much dialog to have to read and not be able to look around. I had a little trouble with the panning ,but would get used to it in the full game.


Connie
Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: connie] #204499
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Downloaded it and played a bit:because I'm not english, I'm quite used to read subtitles, but these are really fast even for an expert like me! Maybe because the leading actor is a very fast speaker?All the Hungarians talk fast as him?
I found very useful the interface with all the dialogues, so I could read what I missed.
The story is intriguing, but I agree with the other members:I can't stand the 360 degree play,make me feel dizzy, I would have preferred arrows with fixed directions.
Thanks to Private Moon for the chance to tell you this!


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Carla] #204569
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Well... I thought it was pretty good. I do like computer rendered environments because you can create things that do not exist! I do hope that computer graphics will achieve complete perfection of environments one day. Some already have I feel. I love the panning, being able to see things in a 360 degrees is great. I do not like the Nancy Drew games as much because you cannot see all around you. And in a game like Yoomurjack's Ring panning is probably essential. Things were kind of blurry. I had quite a good tour of Eger! Nice, historic place. I think that there needs to be a marker on the map telling you where you are at. It stinks not seeing things in real time. I would like to see people moving and trees being blown by the wind, cars moving etc. Primarily though I hope that the companies focus on creating imaginary environments because you can do so much more. Eventually all the aspects of creating computer rendered environments, people, water, fire, etc. will be perfect!, I think. You can do things that are not on earth, which I find to be amazing.

I know that the team at Private Moon has worked hard on this and I wish them the best.

Last edited by Preston C.; 09/19/07 12:16 PM.
Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Preston C.] #204607
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Hi smile

Have played a little of the demo now and had no problem with the panning. Just slowed it down via OPTIONS in the game menu.

I agree - the subtitles do tend to disappear rather quickly. But perhaps this is something that can be remedied think

Nice graphics and easy interface though thumbsup

Spent a short time investigating the hotel and my bedroom and am now exploring the town - but so far haven't encountered anything more exciting than ....

Click to reveal..
carved signs above doorways

So am hoping for something to happen soon lol

Cheers.

Mad wave


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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Mad] #204701
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What a long demo! I've been playing for an hour and I think I'm about 2/3 through it.
I would love it if you keep the original Hungarian and just make the subtitles last a little longer - it would look weird dubbed, and it'll lose it's charm. Plus, my mom's side of my family is from Hungary, and they'd love to see a game in Hungarian wink.

Here are my thoughts so far:
What I liked:
-Excellent quality - videos look wonderful, and the static pictures are lovely as well.
-The feature of having a printed letter version on the handwritten letters is one every game should have. Not all of us have perfect eyesight, and not all of us can read joined writing.
-The acting is pretty good. So far only one character seemed to over-act.
-The map is a must, and it works well. I would've liked written names on it as well, though, as the library and the hotel looked pretty similar (or maybe just have a picture of books to represent the library?).

What I didn't like:
-There's too much freedom. It happens alot in games like these that show a real location - you can see everything. Though it looks very nice I would've liked to be led by the hand at the start of the game. Take me to the tourism office at first, and only then let me roam around. I was walking around for a good ten minutes before I checked the map. Also, half the times I was walking I would end up in front of a doorway I couldn't go into, which was frustrating.
-Like other people said - too much panning. It's a weird sort of panning where you need to place your mouse as close to the middle of the screen as possible to be able to move comfortably. This game could benefit from free 360 panning with the cursor fixed in the middle of the screen like in the Kheops games. And then make the screen fixed when you enter a close-up, or need to solve a puzzle. It makes for much faster movement.
-Too much reading - this is just a demo and there are already five letters and one journal! It's tiring. The letters also seem overly long, but that may be just me.
-At the start of the game the main character will urge you a couple of times to get out of the room. It happened way too soon. I had just begun playing with a new interface to get used to, and two letters to read in the inventory. The last thing I want to do is get out of the room - I want to explore my options, read those letters, explore the room for anything of interest and only then get out.

Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Shany] #204751
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I find the graphics just fine, the panning is OK and gives one the freedom to look around even if one cannot go everywhere one would like to. The 'open'/'closed' cursor is great. Am unsure yet how to look at the map or read the letters. The English dubbing below the scene moves too fast as others have said. And since one cannot read English coming from the lips of the speakers it doesn't matter if it is synced or not when they are speaking a different language (at least to me). I played about 15-20 minutes and answered their 3 questions. And it does not bother me that I was 'tossed' out of my room early on, I just ignored that urgent GET OUT until I felt I was ready to leave grin Nothing stopped me from moving around the room as long as I wished.
Looking forward to the full game, will buy it if the price fits my limited game-budget.
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Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Darleen03] #204833
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Enjoyed it, shades of Carol Reed Mysteries. Actually liked the panning around, got to see more of the city. Very smooth controls and easy interface. Would like English dubbing because I like to look at someone's face when they are talking, and have to take my eyes off to read dialogue. Feel more involved in the game. I'm off to vote. wave

Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Darleen03] #204984
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Not my kind of game either. Doubt that I'll buy it, and I do end up buying most of the new adventure games that come onto the market.

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