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#123780 - 10/17/02 08:53 PM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
MacDee Offline
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Feardust,

Amber was spookie, you are exploring an old, dark house to start. wink Another 1st person, creepy game is Dark Fall . You are exploring a spooky old train station.

Rhem is like Riven in a lot a ways. I can't tell you much about it. I'm still in the beginning, but there are good reviews of both these games at Quandary

~Dee

Sorry Alix, didn't mean to hijack your thread. <img border="0" alt="pacify" title="" src="graemlins/pacify.gif" />


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#123781 - 10/17/02 09:16 PM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
Alix Offline
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Dee, feel free to hijack my thread. smile Even if you are a Myst-lover ! lol

I played Amber and I liked it. Didn't love it, but it was fine. I like spooky games as long as there is plenty of stuff to explore and discover. I'm still having a hard time pinning down what puts me off in the classic Myst style....

Alix

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#123782 - 10/17/02 09:31 PM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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#123783 - 10/17/02 09:51 PM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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Thank you Alix. wave (I think wink )

If you like spooky games with lot of exploring, play Dark Fall. The only thing Myst-like about it is being a 1st person point and click. It has ambiance, a great story, 3 floors of rooms to explore and should be played at night with the volume up. Great game, will scare the pants off of you. <img border="0" alt="[winky]" title="" src="graemlins/winky.gif" />

BTW....I just loved Syberia, but I couldn't take all the dialogue in TLJ.....waaaay too much... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

BTW again.....loved your website, you are very funny... lol

~Dee

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#123784 - 10/18/02 02:21 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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Thank you, Alix, for being so generous as to share this thread. wave I thought that it would be handy to have the responses/answers in the same thread for future reference.

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#123785 - 10/18/02 02:56 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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ALik: I would definitely call darkfall a myst clone with a spooky atmoshpere.

One of the games you asked about was the Quivering. Avoid it at all costs. it is the worst adventure game ever made. Nothing even comes close to being as bad as this game.

Mszv:
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Third person games tell more of a story (often), but with first person games, you feel you are really in the game.
I disagree with this statement. first person games have ZERO immersiveness no matter what genre it is. Take a first person game that does have plot and character interaction like Nancy drew. I do not feel like I am playing Nancy at all. This game screams to be third person. if it was then I would feel so much more into the character. As it stands now it could be anyone character I was playing.
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#123786 - 10/18/02 06:39 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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Alix,
I think you should give Shivers another try, did you get into the museum? Once in there, there are tons of places to explore and things to discover,
you just have to get past the maze and get inside.
I am also a Myst hater, but Shivers is one of my all-time favorites, If you got inside the museum and started looking around and it didnt get better for you, then its not a game you'll like, but you have to get in there first. IMHO wave
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#123787 - 10/18/02 07:19 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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I used to be a Myst hater until I bought Riven cheap (cheap as one of the CDs was damaged so I had to buy another copy to play it.) My gaming tastes have changed over time (and will change like perhaps getting into RPGs.)

Some good suggestions for you here Alix. As an aside there are some great games aimed at children. I much enjoyed one of the "Spy Fox" games. Plenty of interaction. Something perhaps to play along with children or even to play oneself as light relief.

Happy hunting for games you enjoy,

Regards, Peter.
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#123788 - 10/18/02 09:56 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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Right Zanthia - I should have said, with first person games I usually feel I'm right in the game. I haven't played Nancy Drew, but, from what you said it sounds like a natural third person game to me.

I'm not exactly sure what it is about Myst, some people love it (like me), others can't stand it. Myst is quite slow, with relatively little interaction of any kind. I'm not sure why I like it, maybe because I like the Myst Universe so much. Gameplay is limited in Myst, and for some reason, that really works for me. Of all the games I played it's the one where I really feel I've been there. Maybe it's because it took me so long to finish the game, I know every slide.
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#123789 - 10/18/02 10:57 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
Alix Offline
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Helen -- I'll stick with Shivers a little longer and see if I warm up to it.

Zanthia -- I will put "Quivering" under my DO NOT BUY list...have to carry that around in case I spot a "bargain" and don't remember that the game sucked. wink

Peter -- thank you for your ideas about checking out children's games. As far as the Myst-style, I don't anticipate my tastes changing much...while I made the move to graphical adventures (from text adventures) in the late 80s, with some resistance, I don't feel this is similar. There is something alienating about the Myst style that goes beyond unfamiliar to me. I keep working at it, but I get unbelievably cranky with these games. I may be a dinosaur of an adventurer who will have to give it up at some point!

mszv -- I am glad that Myst works for you. Variety is good, it keeps more of us happy!

Last night I was playing The Messenger and omigod, it was so tedious. Who thought up that inventory system? Ever feel like you are getting through a game for the sake of completeness, and then your realize that you are an adult with more important things to do? We'll see if I still finish it just for the sake of being able to say I did.

I will go back to Shivers this weekend. Thank you for the encouragement!

Rusty Gamer Alix

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#123790 - 10/18/02 11:23 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alix:
Zanthia -- I will put "Quivering" under my DO NOT BUY list...have to carry that around in case I spot a "bargain" and don't remember that the game sucked. wink
You might change your mind if you read what Just Adventure has to say about it in "The 10 Best Adventure Games That (Almost) No One Has Ever Played".

Of course there's no accounting for tastes.
[whispering]
I like it. eek
[\whispering]

Betje
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#123791 - 10/18/02 11:30 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
Alix Offline
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Betje, you made me laugh! lol

It's okay to like The Quivering. I'm glad you told me that you did. There are games that have been panned by others that I loved. I remember a games that came out a decade or so ago called KGB...either no one liked it or no one played it...and I just wanted MORE ! Go figure.

Here's my dirty little secret: despite my dislike for combat and action games, I really enjoyed No One Lives Forever. Okay, I cheated my way through it, but, y'know, I'm okay with that. I had fun! (And yeah, it's first-person, but exciting first-person with great voice acting!)

Quivering now is moved to my "mixed reviews" list, along with Mystery of the Druids. smile

Alix

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#123792 - 10/18/02 11:40 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
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THE LAST EXPRESS!!!
I think most of the games you listed you will consider Myst-like (espcially if you found shivers myst-like). However, last express isn't like myst, it isn't like old adventure games, it's like nothing else. It is completely unique and brilliant. You must try it smile

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#123793 - 10/18/02 11:44 AM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
colpet Offline
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I think this is a great thread for the Myst-ophobes as well as the Myst-ophiles(myself). I'm getting another perspective on some games that I've yet to play.
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#123794 - 10/18/02 12:18 PM Re: Recommendations for Myst-haters?
Alix Offline
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Taf4 - Cool! I just won the Last Express in auction (last night). I have been wanting the game for quite a while, but haven't seen it locally. Woo-hoo! (chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga!)

Alix

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