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#123807 - 01/22/03 04:03 PM Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
Gelert Offline
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Hiya ! wave

If you had the choice between owning 'Flight of the Amazon Queen' and 'The Residents : Bad Day on the Midway', and didn't wish to keep either of them, which would you think would be the biggest asset in a game swop deal if you were hoping to swop for a rare (-ish) game ?

Which is most sought after in other words ?

Any thoughts please ? Both are boxed and complete.

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#123808 - 01/22/03 04:29 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
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wasn't Flight of the Amazon Queen written previously to The Tex Murphy series??? I think that's the one I'd use.
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#123809 - 01/22/03 04:40 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
lakerz Offline
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Hmmm, that's a toughie. I believe both games are similar in terms of "hard to findness". Flight of the Amazon might be a little bit more desirable. There was a thread of Just Adventure saying there were some copies of Bad Day at an online vendor.
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#123810 - 01/22/03 04:50 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
Gelert Offline
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So, it sounds like it's not really worth the hassle doing what I was thinking of then. That is swopping my 'Flight of . . . . ' for a 'Bad Day on the Midway', in order to have a more useful trading 'weapon'. I've just got to be patient perhaps ? Am I right ?

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#123811 - 01/22/03 07:46 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
Singer Offline
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Registered: 09/04/01
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I'd say that's pretty accurate, Gelert. If I can make one generalization, I'd say that Amazon Queen seems to be a little more common in the UK, while more BD in the Midway's are floating around North America.

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#123812 - 01/23/03 01:33 AM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
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People seem to have a lot of trouble getting Flight of the Amazon Queen to run on a non-DOS computer. So though it might be rarer, it might not be as desirable for a gamer. Of course if your Amazon Queen is in mint condition, a collector won't care if the game plays or not.

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#123813 - 01/23/03 10:08 AM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
gatorlaw Offline
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For selling purposes I might stick with Amazon Quenn - just because it is worth 100.00 plus according to the few places that have it for sale or prices it has gotten on EBay. But for trading - maybe Bad Day. It loads and plays on at least W98. It also is valuable - but not as pricy as Amazon. SO you would get a more even exchange on a swap. However if you are trading Amazon for Bad Day - That seems like not a good deal. Maybe you should sell Amazon and then just buy Bad Day and some other games. smile

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#123814 - 01/23/03 01:21 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
Gelert Offline
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Thankyou everyone for your advice. I'm going to hang on to Amazon Queen for now and sell it in the distant future if no cracking trade offers appear. I've got one Bad Day already which I'll keep after playing, so it's not as if I needed it to play too. It was just that I'd believed that Bad Day was far more valuable for trading purposes and I'm still trying to attract a boxed Neverhood, Toltecs and others. It seems there isn't much difference except for system spec needs. I'll hang on and see what happens. It only cost me 7 quid so I'm not out of pocket. I'm in no rush with all the games I've got waiting and snarling with impatience for their turns.

Bye, and thanks, Gelert smile

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#123815 - 01/23/03 02:04 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
fanatic Offline
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If you are stuck, I'd look into selling Flight of the Amazon Queen to Playing Games Interactive (an online store). They are selling an english copy for $160. Who knows how much they would pay for another copy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

You can click here to see that they do in fact sell this item for such an outrageous price. The French version is going for $29.95 on the same website.


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#123816 - 01/23/03 02:34 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
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You might get a boxed Neverhood, but I wouldn't count on getting a boxed 3 Skulls of the Toltecs. I saw that Reah was at PGI for $230, but isn't there anymore. Did they sell it?

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#123817 - 01/23/03 02:41 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
fanatic Offline
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Reah... They very well could have sold it. If they did, I feel sorry for the individual that bought it. Else, PGI might have seen the posts made on Gameboomers about the game and realised they were trying to rip people off and removed it from the website. I don't know. heh

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#123818 - 01/23/03 02:58 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
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PGI does charge the occasional high price but they have also have distributed hard to find games like Gene Machine and Mystery of the Orangery in the past and when they were in stock they were going for around 35.00. thumbsup I'd say that was a pretty good deal for an in stock item. lol

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#123819 - 01/24/03 01:21 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
SirDave Offline
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Originally posted by fanatic:
Reah... They very well could have sold it. If they did, I feel sorry for the individual that bought it. Else, PGI might have seen the posts made on Gameboomers about the game and realised they were trying to rip people off and removed it from the website. I don't know. heh
Actually, I am familiar with the circumstances of the sale of the game REAH that you refer to, and the fact is that it didn't sell for that listed price at all. You may also recall that a copy of Celtica was similiarly priced on PGI recently and, again, sold for substantially less than the original listed price.

I agree that some of the PGI listed prices seem high, but I don't think it is fair to say that they are trying to rip people off. The value of some of these adventure games are in a state of flux right now and some of these games are selling on Ebay for amounts that might surprise you. The fact is that PGI caters to collectors so any collector who pays more than the game is worth has only himself/herself to blame. As a retail outfit, PGI can't afford to let collector items go for a bargain price; also, they are likely going to set the initial asking price based on factors that don't appy to regular games.

I, for one, am glad they're around. Oh, and I have no relationship (other than as a customer) with PGI whatsoever!

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#123820 - 01/24/03 01:55 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
lakerz Offline
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I 110% agree with Scout and SirDave regarding PGI. Alan runs a very good online shop and I've gotten some otherwise very hard to find titles for a reasonable price from PGI. I also bought a couple of very rare games off him for probably higher than market value. Does that make me stupid? I guess to fanatic it does. Bottom line is I got the money to spend, and I could waste days of my time searching for a better price for said game, or I can settle on a price with PGI and get it within days. I'm glad that there are cyber-shops around that will actively look for titles for you.
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#123821 - 01/24/03 02:10 PM Re: Which game is likely to attract the best trade ?
fanatic Offline
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Before I begin, I just want to say that I am entering this discussion for the mere purpose of explaining and reinforcing my comments. I am not here to argue.

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As a retail outfit, PGI can't afford to let collector items go for a bargain price; also, they are likely going to set the initial asking price based on factors that don't appy to regular games.
Yes, I too have purchased from PGI in the past. For you, asking $230 for a single, out-of-print game may appear to be fair. For me, I still find this to be an outrageous sum of money to ask. Regardless of the games selling for less, in my opinion, the mere fact that they asked such an outrageous sum makes me question their ethics.

My experiences buying from PGI have been positive. I do not question their good service one bit. They run a good business as far as that is concerned. Ethically, I see things a bit different on selected items they offer/have offered.

And I agree that they should not let items go for "bargain" prices, but $230!? Reah, in my opinion, might be reasonably priced at $75-$85 at most. To me, the attempt to get $230 for this game is a rip off.


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The fact is that PGI caters to collectors so any collector who pays more than the game is worth has only himself/herself to blame.
Well, most of PGI's games are listed at very fair prices. If they weren't, I would not have bought from them. It's just the collector's section that has some of the outrageous prices.

I consider myself to be a game collector... a thrifty one. For me, no game is worth more than $80. This pertains to me alone. I have brought the PGI out-of-print section to the attention of fellow collectors I know outside of Gameboomers. All have agreed with me... and no, they are not friends, but mere acquaintances.

For me, some of PGI's prices go beyond the scope of acceptable ethics. I still think they run a fine business, and I am not here to get people to voice negative opinions of PGI, nor not buy from them. Their pricing scheme, for selected items, made me feel, at the time, like stating my views. I do not regret doing so.

Well, that is all from me for now. I apologize if anyone sees this as flaming.


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