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#124387 - 12/10/02 11:02 AM Things we haven't seen in adventures
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I would just like to share some thoughts I've had about adventures. Yes we have found Atlantis, we have solved the riddle of the templars, we have had our amnesias and we have been burned under the sun of Egypt...but there are some things we haven't seen in adventure games and I would like to say a few things that I find strange that we haven't seen in adventures.

1) Black people...
Have you played any adventure where the main hero was black? I don't remember any (btw I'm not black but I just thought it was strange)

2) Children
I don't remember any adventure where you have to control a child. This idea came to me yesterday when I was watching The Others with Nicole Kidman and I thought that it would turn into a great adventure where you have to control one of the two children.

3) Night club
I would like to play an adventure where a lot of its story takes place in a night club, an underground night club maybe full of underground unusual people.

4) War
I would like to play an adventure game where there is a conflict between two lands and you have to seize the war. The only adventure I can remember similar to that would be Quest For Glory 3. But I would also like to see a scene where the war goes on and you could see thousands of people fighting at the same place like in the movies Braveheart or Jean De' Arc.

5) A drama
Syberia was a very good example. There was no real villain in the story but life can be a villain herself. So why not have a real life drama where you can have a person who has fallen in problems with drugs or sth like that and you try to bring him/her back to the right way.

6) An FMV comedy
The only FMV games we have seen were either about paranormal or science fiction. I would like to see a comedy made in FMV also (I love paranormal and science fiction and it is my favourite but sth different would also be good).

7)A crazy fan
Like the movie The fan with Robert De Niro, there could be some sort of obsessed fan that want to kill a football star, or an actor and you have to stop them. You could also play the role of a bodyguard of that star or something like that.

8) Be a lawyer
I haven't played Law and Order yet but it sounds very interesting. I would like to see more adventures that take place in a court room.

These are just some ideas....not anything else but I'm getting tired of travelling to Egypt
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#124388 - 12/10/02 11:28 AM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
Clovis Offline
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Interesting dimix3...In The City of the Lost Children you played as a very young girl...I quite liked that game, thought it was not to everyone's taste...Also you controlled children briefly in Alone in the Dark 2 (only in the CD version I think) and Sanitarium. George Stobbart of Broken Sword fame is a lawyer, but apart from his knowledge of Latin, it does never become a part of the game. I am pretty certain Zork Grand Inquisitor qualifies as a FMV comedy.I agree on all the others.

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#124389 - 12/10/02 11:33 AM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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Interesting topic smile
I have to say that I think a few of those things have been seen...
#1: I believe the main character in Faust is black. you just don't see him much cause it's a 1st person game.
#2: In city of lost children you play as a child
#3: The space bar takes place largely in a nightclub i think, although I haven't played that one :0

However, I couldn't agree with you more on #8! I would LOVE to see a good drama as an adventure game, rather than pure fantasy. I'll take a dramatic movie over a fantasy one any day.. I like adventure games because of the thinking involved, not because of the setting usually. I am curious to see how many agree smile

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#124390 - 12/10/02 11:37 AM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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I would definitely like to see some of this stuff happen, too. Of course, we all know that it never will unless the designers actually listen to us for once! lol lol lol
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#124391 - 12/10/02 11:46 AM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
Betje Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by dimidimidimi:

1) Black people...
Have you played any adventure where the main hero was black? I don't remember any (btw I'm not black but I just thought it was strange)

6) An FMV comedy
In Obsidian one of the two main characters is Max. He's black. You, the player, are his white girlfriend and colleague.

And I'd LOVE to see an FMV comedy! Fat chance...

Betje
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#124392 - 12/10/02 12:29 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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I agree with all of your post... in particular, I am also very sick of going to Egypt. I was very disappointed when the sequel to the Cameron Files turned to that tired location. frown

I'd actually like to see more games like FAUST where the focus is on individual characters and their motives.

But what I would like to see most of all is the adaption of great books/movies into adventure games. The Maltese Falcon comes to mind, as I love private eye stories. I suppose the copyright laws would be prohibitive in this regard, but wouldn't it be fun to have your favorite book/movie turned into an adventure game? smile
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#124393 - 12/10/02 12:57 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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1) Black people...
In Maniac Mansion you can choose a black character at the start of the game.
And in 1st person games where you never see your character in a cut scene, how do you know that you're not black? Are you a black person in Shivers or Myst or Byzantine or Amber or ?

2) Children
Sanitarium had one level where you play as a little girl - and another level where you can turn into a little girl.
In Maniac Mansion and Day of the Tentacle you play children.
And then there are children's games, like Carmen Sandiego, Ally's Adventures, etc.
I don't know if the Famous Five games are strictly for children, but you play children in those.

6) An FMV comedy
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...but I'm getting tired of travelling to Egypt
One problem is that they never find anything new or original there. It's always the same old stuff.

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#124394 - 12/10/02 01:02 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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Personally I am happy NOT to have to control any children in games--it's an escape for me! <img border="0" alt="woozy" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />
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#124395 - 12/10/02 01:07 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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Not much into adaptations but wouldn't mind seeing Ellery Queen type mysteries or games based on th show Relic Hunter. Also wouldn't mind going back into the past like they did in The Messenger and seeing how a place changes over time or have always wanted to see the Babylonian Gardens. Also think that Journey to the Center of the Game ought to have a kid brother/sister along. Andre Norton's Time Traders or Solarian books would let them have free rein on creating worlds. Wonder if fairy tales would translate well like The Firebird or some of the greek myths. Though mostly would like to see a space series started. One where you got a trading/exploring/ranger ship that ends up having to solve a mystery at each port or finds some derelicts in space. One in which you could see all different types of cultures. Piers Anthony's Steppe gives a fascinating glimpse into a well-known historical character and those times.
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#124396 - 12/10/02 01:25 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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What a great topic!

I AGREE that we need rest from

Atlantean Maya Egyptian Timewarp!

Adventures.

I'd love to see an FMV adventure that takes place in an office. A murder mystery.
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#124397 - 12/10/02 03:06 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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Quote:
Originally posted by acornia:
..Though mostly would like to see a space series started. One where you got a trading/exploring/ranger ship that ends up having to solve a mystery at each port or finds some derelicts in space. One in which you could see all different types of cultures...
Yes, oh yes! I'd also like to see fantantic new planets, lots of varied topology and flora and fauna. Not to mention fantastic space scenes!

Acornia, you'll just have to pull together a development team!
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#124398 - 12/10/02 03:19 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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I am not much into adaptations either they usually do not turn out well. I prefer original stories. Some of the most successful games were based on original stories, like Amber, Amerson, Faust, Syberia. They all had to do with human emotions and drama. I would like to see some stories with interaction with different life forms. Schizm scratched the surface of this with the symbiotic interaction of living spaces and locomotion.

I do not desire to replay something I have seen on TV and was not enchanted with the first place.

I do not mind going to Egypt if it is well done since we hardly scratched the surface of all the possibilities and I do not mind seeing its treasures but surly there are other stories possible that do not include Mummies chasing you hither and yon. I agree with Ray, we had enough Mummies already! rolleyes
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#124399 - 12/10/02 03:33 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
DanF Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by ray:
I'd love to see an FMV adventure that takes place in an office. A murder mystery.
We have that already. Well, maybe only kinda sorta. It's called Phantasmagoria 2.

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#124400 - 12/10/02 03:45 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
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You play a black woman in "Lost in Time" from Cocktel Vision. ( I did a google search on this, and found a "Lost in Time 2", was there a sequel to this that I missed!!)

For FMV comedy, the only one I can think of is "Fork in the Tale" , which was a strange but fun game. (but it got panned by reviewers, and didn't sell well. In fact, the production company never produced any other games and went out of buisness after the game was released).

As for a war game, there are many stratagy games like "Age of Empires", but I'm not sure how this would work as an adventure.

There have been several games featureing lawyers. In addition to "Law and Order", there was "In the 1st Degree" where you have to successfuly prosecute a murderer. This one is FMV too! And lets not forget "Syberia", Kate is a lawyer too!

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#124401 - 12/10/02 05:26 PM Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
ray Offline
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mszv, I've got a game for you, if you haven't played it: Anachronox. Talk about fantantic new planets, lots of varied topology and flora and fauna. Not to mention fantastic space scenes.

But maybe you've played it; I can't remember.
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