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#137051 - 10/06/04 02:49 PM SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
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In the past few days we have had some wonderful and very serious discussions on the board here with regard to the "Pest Infestations" our beloved Computers can unfortunately pick up while we "surf the net".




To be sure these Virtual maladies can slow down our systems and as a direct result can render them practically useless. And just what will
we do if we sit idley by and let these vermin
dictate what goes on inside the privacy of our own Computers? Not be playing Myst4,Lights Out, Silver Earring or online games much, I can promise you.
mad

We must be ever vigilant in our defense
against this type of scumm! How do we do this???

think Simple:

Education
  • Knowledge is Power

    I'm placing here a few links to get you started.
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  • The Spyware Test Guide CT-4,2004 by Eric L Howes
    This Test pits 20 Anti-Spyware and Anti-Adware against 15 malicious programs and/or files downloaded off the net from Grokster. It offers
    a clear:
    Results Database
    key
    # of False-Positives for each program
    # of files removed "X/134"
    Links for possible downloads and further information
  • Download.com\'s Spyware Central
    Downloads.com has an immense amount of info packed into this little page. A big Thanks to Shaolinphil and Johnboy298 for bringing it to my attention.
  • Pest Patrol Database
    Here you'll be able to locate and get a description of many pests with don't belong on your system. Example: Type in:HOTBAR and just see what comes up!
  • The SPYWAREBLOG from SPYWARE Warrior
    Lots a very informative bits of information on this subject complete with referrals, archives
    and links.
  • C NET\'s NEWS.COM
    As Shaolinphil and Johnboy298 suggests this topic is a must read
  • Eric Howes Privacy & Security Page
    If you Bookmark nothing else from this article, I implore you to Bookmark this link. Read it, Use it, Live by it.
  • Spyware/Adware/Hijackware Tools
    Here are lists (including links) of various types of software to use against the fight of keeping your system safe from those who would invade our privacy, virtual telemarketing, do our systems harm or worse.
  • Rogue Anti-Spyware
    Just like in reality, our virtual world is full of STRANGERS. Not everyone is our friend (present company excepted, of course.) There are those who with predatory like tactics are out to make a buck at the expense of the inexperienced Internet user. It is so important to READ before you download... and know how to search in the appropriate places before choosing those programs which might do you more harm than good.
  • Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Websites by Eric L Howes and presented by Spy Warrior.com
    The title really does say it all, Shaolinphil: My eyes have been opened and I am grateful to you. I actually had tried a few of these programs on the list unaware that they were not what they seemed to be. No wonder my computer crashed last week. (ADAWARE knockoff... and believe me, you need to use the REAL DEAL, my friends!!!)
    Here on this page of his marvelous site Mr Howes lists </font><ul type="square">
  • As mentioned in the link above. Quite startling eek
  • Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Sites
    I don't recommend checking any of these out...Lord know what one might catch... rolleyes But it's really nice to know that the research was done.
  • Clones/Knockoffs
    Complete with comments
  • Trustworthy Anti-Spyware Products
    Here are where the recommendations are listed, along with some valuable tips for further protection and we can do before downloading anything.
    </font><ul type="square">
  • Run an anti-spyware scanner (or two...)
  • Install anti-spyware protection
  • Lock down your browser
  • Securely configure the Internet zone
  • Add bad sites to the Restricted sites zone
  • Use an alternative browser


[*]Other Anti-Spyware Tools
[*]If Your PC is Infested w/ Spyware...
Here he offers concrete suggestions in plain English to try to correct the problem.
[*]Google & Anti-Spyware Products
A very informative warning about using the paid search results. They aren't always what they might seem to be. Learn to use your best judgement.
[*]More Information
Finally, the bottom of this page suggests more links for further reading and education.</ul><font size="3" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></ul><font size="3" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></ul><font size="3" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I also was very pleased to note that Mr. Howes does not belong nor is financed by any of the groups or sites he writes about. Very objective. Well done, Mr. Howes!


It is truly my wish that all of you will take the time to learn about this very grave danger that we all face every time we connect to the Internet.
It will never go away, it will only get worse and more and more virulent. I feel that it touches all of us here at Gameboomers and everyone else who surfs online. I receive countless emails asking to help with a game only to find that part of the reasons it won't work is because their systems are so heavily bogged down with this garbage. It is my sincere hope that this research will be of some help to one and all.

As Always
Inferno
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Reading: Angelique's Descent
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#137052 - 10/12/04 01:54 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
JohnBoy Offline
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Loc: Kentwood, Left my heart in New...
Very nice compilation! thumbsup
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#137053 - 10/15/04 01:44 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
popcorneater Offline
Adept Boomer

Registered: 08/30/02
Posts: 11557
Loc: Virginia
Wow Inferno, eek

Thanks for all the look-sees and links..keep this on board for awhile, when the new baby arrives it shall be protected..
I know I'll have to read; but any mention of how to keep MS from putting stuff on your computer even when you say no....? mad

Ingie laugh
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#137054 - 10/18/04 11:57 AM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
Trail_Mystic Offline
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Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 5340
Inferno, you never cease to amaze me. Thank you for all that work! thumbsup
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#137055 - 10/18/04 02:41 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
The Radiant Moderator Staff Reviewer
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 5766
Loc: FT. Worth ....Where the West b...
You very welcome,
Remember : The Truth is out there!

Inferno
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Watching: Dark Shadows
Reading: Angelique's Descent
Playing: WoW and living in Kil' Jaeden

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#137056 - 10/18/04 03:48 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
Trail_Mystic Offline
Dragon Breath
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 5340
Quote:
Originally posted by infernoj13usa:
You very welcome,
Remember : The Truth is out there!

Inferno


Sorry, I just couldn't resist lol
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"...Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen."

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#137057 - 10/18/04 11:01 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
The Radiant Moderator Staff Reviewer
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 5766
Loc: FT. Worth ....Where the West b...
I know.....that why I wrote it.
I couldn'y resist either whistle
Inferno
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Watching: Dark Shadows
Reading: Angelique's Descent
Playing: WoW and living in Kil' Jaeden

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#137058 - 10/25/04 02:40 AM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
maryc64 Offline
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Registered: 11/11/02
Posts: 821
Loc: SNOHOMISH, WA
I am wondering as my brain cannot comprehend all that the first post explained. Odd, Mary goes to Cnet to download a spyware program. Pop-up comes up but had a feeeeling! Checked it's description against what was supposed to be downloaded. Not the same. So I followed the links to correct place and used the indicated down pointing arrows from which to download. Is this another threat?
Am I a ditz? Arghh....
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#137059 - 10/27/04 12:05 AM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
catlee Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/29/00
Posts: 477
Loc: Sneads, FL , USA
My husband and i, just finish clean our 4 computers, from been bugged and acked.
We never had this kind problem before. And after 2 weeks, of hard work, we finally cleaned them up.

We use many bug snappers, registry cleaners, firewalls and addresses inquisitors.

Some brend are the same of the ones are posted here.
Here`s another helpfull one:

http://hijackthis.de/index.php

It is a log file, and is free. It will show your files and what they are for and how can couse truble when some ackers try to get in your system.

Hijackthis, will scan and fix it. But i think if some of you din`t know about it. you can try it out. You be glade you did.

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#137060 - 10/27/04 12:53 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
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Posts: 5766
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Catlee that is wonderful. I'd already mentioned in the Tips and Tweaks aboutHijackThis! I'm an avid user as well.
What I particularly like about it is that if your not sure just what to put into your "ignore list" (save) and what to "fix" (delete) you just copy the log file and go over to thier forum and post it... they will gladly tell you what it good and what may be not so good.
It's also mentioned by Eric Howes in his article: Spyware/Adware/Hijackware Tools

and in these articles as well:
To Be Forewarned Is To Be Forearmed!
Arghhhh-spyware and viruses-
file name warning
Protection programs
Tips & Tweaks Submitted by Our Boomies

Great program.

Inferno
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Watching: Dark Shadows
Reading: Angelique's Descent
Playing: WoW and living in Kil' Jaeden

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#137061 - 10/27/04 01:02 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
girlgeek Offline
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Registered: 06/16/02
Posts: 1957
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri, USA
NOTE OF WARNING:

DO NOT USE the "Virtual Bouncer Uninstaller" that the link in the previous post lists!! It is made by the people who made Virtual Bouncer, and leaves remnants of VB ON YOUR MACHINE!!! VB then REactivates itself on your machine. No...I don't know HOW or WHY, but it indeed DOES.

I had one helluva time getting rid of Virtual Bouncer and suggest that you do not trust ANYTHING that this company makes.

To rid myself once and for all of VB...after trying EVERYTHING else...I did what NOW is obvious to me, and ran a search on my PC deleting EVERY SINGLE FILE that had virtual bouncer in it...and trust me...there were a LOT. I had run SpyBot and AVG directing them to delete it, and yet still...files remained. I had to manually delete everything attached to VB.
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#137062 - 10/27/04 01:16 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
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Posts: 5766
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The link you are describing is to get rid of Virtual Bouncer (which is malware) not the program itself... You could have also gotten rid of it quickly by using Spy Sweeper as well.

I've sent an email off to Mr Howes and hopefully he will investigate it for us. Perhaps you should send an email as well describing exactly what happenned to you did, Girlgeek. Hopefully, he will investigate it further and either place the link on his "suspect programs page" or tell you how to properly cofigure it. The links posted on the page that I gave are supposed to be safe for download unless otherwise noted as having been tested by him. He does also have a "suspect page as well" Keep in mind he doesn't endorse any of the programs or links that he lists unless there is a notation attesting to that fact.

It still amazes me that so many people choose not configure their browsers properly (be it IE or not)if at all. Fully knowing about the dangers out on the web. I encourage all of you to check out the "tools" and "internet options" button of your browser and take the time to configure them properly. The very first post in this thread talks about this and mentions a link for it.

Inferno

Inferno
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Reading: Angelique's Descent
Playing: WoW and living in Kil' Jaeden

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#137063 - 10/28/04 11:47 AM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 5766
Loc: FT. Worth ....Where the West b...
As promised, I have written to Eric Howes regarding the problems our poor Girlgeek had to face with the removal of "Virtual Bouncer"

His kind reply is as follows:

Quote:

As to why VB itself would be so resistant to removal, that's probably because it installed multiple components on your system, one of which is reinstalling it once it detects VB is missing. That's increasingly common with unwanted adware/spyware applications these days -- they take measures to prevent or undermine uninstallation.

If that gamer is still having problems removing VB, I would suggest that she go through a HijackThis log analysis at a major anti-spyware forum. See here for tips on how to do that.
I have replied to his email and asked him to retest the uninstaller program to see if further analysis might be warranted... I'm waitng for his reply.


Inferno
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Watching: Dark Shadows
Reading: Angelique's Descent
Playing: WoW and living in Kil' Jaeden

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#137064 - 10/28/04 08:01 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
girlgeek Offline
Addicted Boomer

Registered: 06/16/02
Posts: 1957
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri, USA
Thanks, Inferno! That's great info there, and I will hopefully not need it!! BUT...if I EVER encounter that damnable Virtual Bouncer AGAIN...I will be looking for this thread!! That was THE worst time I EVER had removing anything from my computer (other than AOL, Norton, Quicktime, or Kazaa)!! LOL
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#137065 - 10/28/04 10:17 PM Re: SPYWARE & ADWARE TEST RESULTS
infernoj13usa Offline
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 5766
Loc: FT. Worth ....Where the West b...
Just got the reply from Eric and what we both were thinking was correct. Unfortunately you had more than one instance of Virtual Bouncer on your system... which really does make sense now to me.

HijackThis! and Spy Sweeper would have caught all instances in all files where its tentacles might have reached.

I've got to tell ya though ... if you haven't already done it ... configure your browser. Put those restricted sites in, set up prompting for third party cookies, and always delete your cookies/files and history after each and every internet session. Since I've done this, the only creepy crawlies I get on my system now are the ones from Bad Mojo!!! lol

Inferno
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