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#176974 - 07/18/07 12:01 AM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: nickie]
Sassy Offline
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It's hard to get it down to only 13. Alltho most of these were on last year's list too.

No particular order.

1) Outcast
2) Unreal 2: The Awakening
3) Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
4) The Chronicles of Riddick
5) Thief Gold
6) American McGees Alice
7) Max Payne
8) Nocturne
9) No One Lives Forever
10) Splinter Cell
11) Silent Hill 2
12) Drakan: Order of the Flame
13) Doom 3

Playing Zanzarah right now and actually liking it. It's probably the closest I'll ever get to playing a game with some RPG elements in it. I'm more of just a shooter fan.

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#176990 - 07/18/07 03:26 AM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Sassy]
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Time for my own RPG challenged offering:

Outcast
Twinsuns Odyssey
Realms of the Haunting
Ico
Max Payne
American Magees Alice
Deus Ex
Half Life
Call of Duty
Divine Divinity
Half Life 2
FEAR
Indigo Prophecy
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#177476 - 07/18/07 11:23 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
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My list never really seems to change, except for the order, which is meaningless.

RPG's I will never be able to part with.

Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate2
Morrowind
Gothic
Gothic 2
Kotor
KOTOR2
Deus Ex
Thief Gold
Thief 2
Splinter Cell (the very first one)
NWN

I can't pick a thirteenth from all the other great games I have. Those 12 are my all time favourites.



Edited by hagatha (07/18/07 11:23 PM)
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#178427 - 07/20/07 11:06 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: hagatha]
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Hi,
We seem to be drawing to a close so I will post final results Monday morning my time, which gives you about 36 hours if you still want to vote.
I will categorise using last years list and my own humble knowledge and research. I will leave any I don't know and maybe a mucky can fill them in.
I am seeking feedback on one thing.
At this stage I intend to count Sacred and Sacred Plus as one game, and Sacred Gold as a seperate game, given it contains the expansion Underworld. However I could be convinced Sacred Plus is different enough to be a seperate game. I haven't played them, but research suggests that it had some quests added and a few more foes, plus all the patches. Not sure that patches add enough, but perhaps the extra bits make it different enough to be considered a game in its own right?
Let me know what you think.
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#178461 - 07/21/07 02:45 AM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
nickie Offline
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What are you asking, Flotsam? Sacred and Sacred Plus are identical, except that quests were corrected (they were buggy in Sacred) and just a small bit of content added. Sacred Plus was originally a free download for those who had bought Sacred, so they could play the game as it was meant to be played. When the game did well with the corrections made, it was then re-released in boxed form for retail, this time as Sacred Plus. The next release was the expansion Underworld, and then the final release was the Gold at a more economical price. When you installed the expansion, it also let you play the original game with two new characters. Did that help or not? grin
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#178474 - 07/21/07 03:25 AM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: nickie]
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That answers the question Nickie. Something I read said Plus added more quests, but I will count them as 1 game as originally intended.
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#178477 - 07/21/07 03:34 AM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
nickie Offline
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Oh, I can see why it would be easy to be confused, because it does look that way. What I think it did though, was add in the quests that originally were SUPPOSED to be there, but weren't in the original. Or they were there sometimes, or you couldn't actually complete them...etc. I don't think it made it enough different for it to be two games, but whatever you want to do is great with me Flotsam. I'm just tickled pink it isn't me counting!
lol
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#178629 - 07/21/07 12:46 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: nickie]
Nora Charles Offline
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Here's my two cents worth. thumbsup

Half Life 2
Abe's Oddysee
Abe's Exoddus
Neverwinter Nights
Fable TLC
Psychonauts
American McGee's Alice

Candy wave
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#178795 - 07/21/07 06:29 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Nora Charles]
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One game it is Nickie!!
Numbers are down on last year so make that last 24 hours count.
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#179223 - 07/22/07 04:37 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
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Hi all,
The results are in!
This is the 4th list and the top two has remained constant. But this is the first time that the winning game has finished top in its own right. I guess I had better finally play it grin
What follows are two posts, one numerical and one alphabetical. I have identified the genre in the numerical list, using last year's chategorisations for consistency.
All errors are mine.
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#179224 - 07/22/07 04:38 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
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13 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind (RPG)
12 Divine Divinity (RPG)
8 Neverwinter Nights (RPG)
8 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (RPG)
7 American Magee’s Alice (Action)
7 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion (RPG)
7 Gothic (RPG)
6 Baldur’s Gate 2 (RPG)
6 Fable: The Lost Chapters (RPG)
6 Gothic 2 (RPG)
6 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven (RPG)
5 Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit (Action/Adventure)
5 Planescape Torment (RPG)
4 Anachronox (RPG)
4 Baldur’s Gate (RPG)
4 Clive Barker’s Undying (Action)
4 Deus Ex (Action/Stealth)
4 Half Life 2 (FPS/Action)
4 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms (RPG)
4 Outcast (Action/Adventure)
4 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold (Action/Stealth)
4 Tomb Raider 7: Legend (Action/Adventure)
4 Zanzarah (Action/Adventure/RPG)
3 Bloodrayne (Action)
3 Diablo 2 (RPG)
3 Drakan: Order of the Flame (Action/Adventure)
3 Fallout (RPG)
3 Max Payne (Action)
3 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne (Action)
3 Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness (RPG)
3 Realms of the Haunting (Action/Adventure)
3 Sacred/Sacred Plus (RPG)
3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords (RPG)
3 Thief 2: The Metal Age (Action/Stealth)
3 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines (RPG)

2 Arcanum, Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, The Bards Tale, Betrayal at Antara, Beyond Divinity, Beyond Good and Evil, Call of Duty, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butchers Bay, Cold Fear, Doom 3, Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern, F.E.A.R., Ghost Master, Half Life, Icewind Dale, Ico, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, Mafia, Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour, Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide, Neverwinter Nights 2, No One Lives Forever, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, Splinter Cell, Tomb Raider 3: The Lost Artifact, Unreal 2: The Awakening,

1 Abe’s Odyssey, Abe’s Exodus, Aikens Artifact, Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare, Anvil of Dawn, Baldurs Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, Baldurs Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal, 1 Battlefield 2, Commandos 2: Men of Courage, Company of Heroes, Condemned, Darklands, Diablo, Diablo: Hellfire, Dungeon Lords, Dungeon Seige 2, Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon, Enclave, Falcon 4: Allied Force, Fallout 2, Fate, Football Manager 2007, Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, Gothic 3, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Half Life 2: Episode 1, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Hidden and Dangerous 2, Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis, King Kong, Medal of Honour, Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer, Necromania: Traps of Darkness, Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark, No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.S Way, Nocturne, Operation Flashpoint, Painkiller, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Psychonauts, Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero, Quest for Glory 5: Dragon Fire, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Return to Krondor, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, Serious Sam: The First Encounter, Serious Sam: The Second Encounter, Sacred Gold, Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 3, Sims 2, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Star Wars: Republic Commando, The Suffering, System Shock 2, Test Drive Unlimited, Tomb Raider 2 Gold, Tomb Raider 4: The Last Revelation, Tomb Raider 5: Chronicles, Tomb Raider 6: Angel of Darkness, Tomb Raider Anniversary Edition, Twinsuns Odyssey, Unreal Tournament, Ultima Underworld, Vampire Masquerade: Redemption, Veil of Darkness
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#179225 - 07/22/07 04:38 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
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1 Abe’s Odyssey
1 Abe’s Exodus
1 Aikens Artifact
7 American Magee’s Alice
1 Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare
4 Anachronox
1 Anvil of Dawn
2 Arcanum
4 Baldur’s Gate
1 Baldurs Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast
6 Baldur’s Gate 2
1 Baldurs Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal
2 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
2 Bards Tale, The
1 Battlefield 2
2 Betrayal at Antara
2 Beyond Divinity
2 Beyond Good and Evil
3 Bloodrayne
2 Call of Duty
2 Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butchers Bay
4 Clive Barker’s Undying
2 Cold Fear
1 Commandos 2: Men of Courage
1 Company of Heroes
1 Condemned
1 Darklands
4 Deus Ex
1 Diablo
1 Diablo: Hellfire
3 Diablo 2
12 Divine Divinity
2 Doom 3
2 Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern
3 Drakan: Order of the Flame
1 Dungeon Lords
1 Dungeon Seige 2
1 Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon
13 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
7 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
1 Enclave
6 Fable: The Lost Chapters
1 Falcon 4: Allied Force
3 Fallout
1 Fallout 2
1 Fate
2 F.E.A.R.
1 Football Manager 2007
1 Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone
2 Ghost Master
1 Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
7 Gothic
6 Gothic 2
1 Gothic 3
1 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2 Half Life
4 Half Life 2
1 Half Life 2: Episode 1
1 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
4 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms
1 Hidden and Dangerous 2
2 Icewind Dale
2 Ico
2 Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
5 Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit
1 Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis
1 King Kong
2 Mafia
3 Max Payne
3 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
1 Medal of Honour
6 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
2 Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour
1 Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer
1 Necromania: Traps of Darkness
8 Neverwinter Nights
2 Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide
1 Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
2 Neverwinter Nights 2
2 No One Lives Forever
1 No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.S Way
1 Nocturne
1 Operation Flashpoint
4 Outcast
1 Painkiller
5 Planescape Torment
1 Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
1 Psychonauts
1 Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero
3 Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness
1 Quest for Glory 5: Dragon Fire
1 Rainbow Six: Vegas
3 Realms of the Haunting
1 Return to Krondor
1 Roller Coaster Tycoon 3
1 Serious Sam: The First Encounter
1 Serious Sam: The Second Encounter
3 Sacred/Sacred Plus
1 Sacred Gold
1 Shadow of the Colossus
2 Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
1 Silent Hill 3
1 Sims 2
2 Splinter Cell
1 Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
1 Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
1 Splinter Cell: Double Agent
8 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords
1 Star Wars: Republic Commando
1 Suffering, The
1 System Shock 2
1 Test Drive Unlimited
4 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold
3 Thief 2: The Metal Age
1 Tomb Raider 2 Gold
2 Tomb Raider 3: The Lost Artifact
1 Tomb Raider 4: The Last Revelation
1 Tomb Raider 5: Chronicles
1 Tomb Raider 6: Angel of Darkness
4 Tomb Raider 7: Legend
1 Tomb Raider Anniversary Edition
1 Twinsuns Odyssey
2 Unreal 2: The Awakening
1 Unreal Tournament
1 Ultima Underworld
1 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption
3 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
1 Veil of Darkness
4 Zanzarah

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#179245 - 07/22/07 05:18 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam]
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Thanks Flotsam. As always, a fine job, and much thanks for your hard work. praise

Ana wave
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#179247 - 07/22/07 05:24 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Yes, thanks flotsam! This really must be a lot of work, and it is greatly appreciated by all of us! bravo

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#179329 - 07/22/07 09:42 PM Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: friedmonky]
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Thanks flotsam. Great job as usual.

Curious, were the counts down from previous years? It seems there weren't as many people voting as in past years. duh
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