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#892283 - 06/05/13 10:08 AM Part 1: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates ???
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Since XP support & security updates ends April 2014 and before I ask for help building a new computer, when does the support & security updates end for Windows 7?
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#892298 - 06/05/13 10:52 AM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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#892312 - 06/05/13 12:11 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks InlandAZ

Is the 2020 date for Win 7 Professional & Enterprise only. And do you have to pay for the "Extended"?

Mainstream Support ends Jan 2015
Extended Support ends Jan 2020


Does ALL support end for the Win 7 Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium & Ultimate releases end Jan 2015 with no extension?

This is why I am confused as a friend just sent me this...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u232/GreyFuss/Win7_zps8aeb1e09.jpg
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#892333 - 06/05/13 01:40 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Actually it is 2015, it's the extended support that ends in 2020 -


Extended support—Microsoft will offer extended support for either a minimum of 5 years from the date of a product's general availability, or for 2 years after the second successor product (two versions later) is released, whichever is longer.

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#892334 - 06/05/13 01:44 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Microsoft Product Support Cycle

It's for all versions, Greyfuss.
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#892361 - 06/05/13 03:03 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Sorry. I'm confused here.

XP's "extended" support ends April 2014, then less than a year later, Win 7's regular support ends? But the "extended" support kicks in for Win 7 automatically, guaranteed for another 5 years?

What's the point of the extended cycle? What's the difference between the regular and the extended? Cost? Level of support?

And to get real basic, what do they mean by "support"? Tech help? Updates?

I really don't want to be pushed into Win 8 right now. For heaven's sake, is Win 7 already becoming obsolete? How can this be? I compared the cycles for XP with Win 7 using the link Draclvr provided, and Win 7's cycles are 2-3 years shorter.
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#892389 - 06/05/13 04:28 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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There is a link in the introductory paragraph with all the support FAQs. The product support for XP was extraordinary and I doubt it will ever be repeated again.
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#892395 - 06/05/13 04:38 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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By 2015 Windows 8 will be replaced so you may as well hang onto 7 until the replacement of 8 makes its appearance. I have read reports Win 9 is already in the works. That suggest to me Windows 8 is the new Windows ME. Do you remember that debacle? You do not start developing a new operating system this close to a new release unless you are aware it is a clunker. It could be a simple matter of planned obsolescence hoping they can push you into a quick turn over. Either way I will wait as 7 works just fine.


Edited by oldmariner (06/05/13 04:38 PM)

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#892414 - 06/05/13 05:25 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
There is a link in the introductory paragraph with all the support FAQs. The product support for XP was extraordinary and I doubt it will ever be repeated again.


I sure will if they don't fix Windows 8 for desktop use. Our company won't touch it with a 10' pole smile

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#892418 - 06/05/13 05:42 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
There is a link in the introductory paragraph with all the support FAQs.

Great! Found it. I think I understand a little better now. So, I'll probably be good with Win 7 for a while, at least until it's time to get a new computer. Also, on the FAQs page, they gave this link for options once a product has been retired:
Retired Product Options
Basically, you can upgrade, search the Microsoft Knowledge Base, ask in various forums, or find a local tech.

Oldmariner says, "Windows 8 is the new Windows ME.": Yikes! And then there was Vista, which I never used at all.
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#892422 - 06/05/13 05:51 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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The problem with continuing to use retired products on the internet is that security vulnerabilities are no longer patched. I will be taking my XP computer off-line and using only for the rare game that won't play on Windows 7 or Windows 8.

I'm telling anyone who asks me to stick with Windows 7 unless you have a compelling reason to upgrade. One friend did upgrade because she absolutely hated Vista. She completely loves Windows 8 and even her Luddite husband likes it and took to it like a duck to water on their 4 year old laptop. It runs like a well-oiled sewing machine on Windows 8 while it was a pain to use on Vista. I just built a new computer for another friend and I put Windows 7 on it because I know this is the best option for him.

I think it's far too early to sound the death knells for Windows 8, but I do think the enterprise is going to be what makes or breaks it and that's not looking good to me. Maybe the simple boot to desktop will help.
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#892441 - 06/05/13 06:37 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks all for the input. Now the question is which version of Windows 7?
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#892487 - 06/05/13 09:12 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Unless you need added encryption, I would recommend Windows 7 Home Premium. That's what I have and it does everything I need it to do and more.

Compare Windows 7 Versions
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#892490 - 06/05/13 09:22 PM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks Tomato Lady, thats exactly the kind of link I needed but wouldn't I want Professional for this... for trying some troublesome game?...

Quote:
Run many Windows XP business programs in Windows XP Mode (separate download).


Now if only there was a link to compare why one would want 64bit over 32bit, hmmmm headscratch
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#892528 - 06/06/13 12:31 AM Re: Windows 7 Support & Security Updates [Re: GreyFuss]
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GreyFuss, Windows XP Mode isn't really a help with gaming. It was created mainly for business programs. Any high-graphics programs will not run well with it. Better to just try to run the game with compatibility mode directly in Win 7. XP Mode is actually a virtual desktop that runs in a window on top of Win 7. It's slower and the graphics are poor quality.

XP Mode Video
Using XP Mode
• Windows XP Mode follows the same support lifecycle as Windows XP—extended support will end April 8, 2014.

• Some hardware and devices that work in Windows 7 might not be detected or work in Windows XP Mode.

• Windows XP Mode was primarily designed to help businesses move from Windows XP to Windows 7. It isn't optimized for graphic-intensive programs such as 3D games, nor is it well suited for programs with hardware requirements such as TV tuners.

And here are a couple of links about 64 bit vs. 32 bit:
FAQ: 32 bit and 64 bit
Win 7: 32 bit vs. 64 bit (written 2009)

PS: I use Win 7 Home Premium also.


Edited by lanlynk (06/06/13 04:39 PM)
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