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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: Mad] #961738
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Originally Posted By: Mad


Never mind. Perhaps banging into a few more walls with Manny will knock some sense into me.


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961833
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You can view a video with the developer on Grim Fandago here.

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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961888
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Thanks Ana. I didn't realize that was Tim Shaffer.


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: mbday630] #961902
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Originally Posted By: mbday630
If I remember correctly, there are a lot more controls than just the arrow keys. I think there is an "E" you have to push for examining, an "I" you have to push for inventory and then to scroll through the inventory there is something else, and then to put your inventory away you have to push P.... (which took me a long time to figure out).

There were quite a lot of hotkeys.
Here's a list of some of them (not including movement keys).
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number pad 5 or E or S -- Examine Item
number pad + or P or A -- Pick up or Put Away a held item
Enter or U or W -- Use Item or Talk or Exit Inventory holding item
number pad 0 or I or D -- Open Inventory or Exit Inventory
1 -- Pull out scythe
2 through 0 -- pull out inventory items in the order picked up
"-" -- see previous inventory item
"+" -- see next inventory item
left or right arrows -- scroll items in open inventory
up or down arrows -- scroll through dialogue lines
Enter key -- select dialogue line
Control-T -- Toggle speech mode (speech only, text only, or speech+text)
Control-B -- Adjust Brightness level
Control-J -- Toggle joystick or gamepad control
Escape -- Skip cut scene or Exit inventory without item
Pause -- pause the game
F1 -- Main menu
Delete or "." -- skip dialogue line
Alt-X -- quit game

Sure you don't have to use them all, but the problem there is that you might accidentally use one of them by mistake and then have to figure out what it was in order to undo it.

Inventory management was WAY more difficult with the keyboard than with the mouse.

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And then just using the walking keys was a hassle. I ran poor Manny into the wall so many times.

Many people had trouble with Manny getting stuck in doorways and on furniture and on the wall. Usually I managed to extricate him by holding down the back button and alternately clicking the left and right arrow keys. He could really get stuck in there good and solid, but I had better luck using the back button to extract him backwards. Not that there haven't been problems with point-and-click, but that's mostly with early 3D adventure games like "The Watchmaker." Compared with point-and-click in 2D games, which is what we were used to, movement in Grim Fandango was clumsy.

Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961916
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I hope the remastered game keeps everything the same except those hotkeys. They were a pain.

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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961918
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I'm with you all on the controls. I would play a remastered edition with point and click controls any day!


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961926
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And I'm with all you "original" wannabes. I'm heading for the shelf as we speak, now that I know it will play on Windows 7.

I recall some glitch involving sliding down a bannister or something; which prevented me from finishing the game. It's been ages, so I hope there is a patch to get by that one.

I'll be getting the installer and the launcher and crossing my fingers! (Uncrossing them to use the keyboard of course!!)

>>>>>>>>>>Later:

I installed using the installer, and launched using the launcher, but got stonewalled. When I try to launch the game it just wants to install it again. D'oh!

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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: Tally Ho] #961937
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Originally Posted By: Tally Ho
I recall some glitch involving sliding down a bannister or something; which prevented me from finishing the game. It's been ages, so I hope there is a patch to get by that one.

Not sure if it's what you're thinking of, but there was a problem getting on a conveyor belt that was computer-speed-related.

Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961939
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That sounds pretty familiar. It was 12 or 13 years ago that I played it. I think that was fairly far along in the game.

Anyway I am stuck trying to get it to play at all. I run the setup from the installer, then run the launcher, and it says it can't find the files. Aargh.
Off to bed, and I will uninstall everything and try again tomorrow.

Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961954
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Melia,

Try installing it in My Documents.
I have it installed there with the Launcher and the LucasArts patch and I've had no trouble running it.

I just noticed that my Launcher (which appears as Setup) is version 1.0 and the newer one on the Quick and Easy Software site is 1.5.
I should probably download that and see what further improvements Bennyboy made.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks Setup and Launcher/installer are separate.
They're not.
If you download the file, it actually says Launcher.
(Just did when I dl'd 1.5.)
The file description for GrimSetup1.0, which I can see by placing my cursor over the file, says: Replacement installer for Grim Fandango.
The description on the Quick and Easy Software site is a little confusing but if you click on either of those links, Setup or Launcher, you end up on the same page and find the same link.
There is only one download file here.

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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961957
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I wonder if there have been some changes? They were originally two different files. I still have them both in my Downloads folder - completely different files.


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: Draclvr] #961959
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Well, as I said, Drac, I have only the patch and the replacement launcher/setup/installer, whatever you want to call it, from 2010 in my file folder (still have them separate from the installed game).

So, I'm not sure what's going on, though it did occur to me that maybe Melia might be having trouble because she's trying to run two of the same file.
Is that possible?

You probably won't recall the trouble I had with Tale of a Hero when I had it installed to the default location; it kept looping early in the game and I couldn't get any further.
I fixed that by installing in My Docs and since Grim is sitting there, too, I may have had some problem with it which went away when I changed the default location.
Anyway, I really would suggest that Melia put the game somewhere other than it wants to go.


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961983
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I downloaded the file and have the launcher installed, but, the game keeps hanging up on me. I haven't messed around with it much to see if I can mess around with compatibility settings or anything yet, and I can still play it on my XP, so, no biggy. I sure wish they would do a remake of it though.

Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961994
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I cleaned it out (uninstall, that is) and re-installed it in MYDocuments.

I still get the message that it "can't find the files, please insert a disk."

This is using the Launcher, with the option to run from the hard drive checked.
I also get the same message if I uncheck that option and have the original disk in the CD drive.
Oddly, I can hear it accessing the drive, but it "can't find the files."

Also, I get the message that I don't have the patch installed.
Yes. I am using the original CD's. not a downloaded version. If I tell it to get the patch, it comes up "unavailable."

Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961998
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I'd recommend posting at Glitches forum for any technical problems anyone is having with installing or playing Grim. luck


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #961999
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Well, hey!

I got in and it seems to run just fine. The problem? It wouldn't go without the patch.

I looked for it at LucasArts, and it seems unavailable, but found a copy at http://www.grimfandango.net/?page=patch
Installed and ran the file, and everything works as expected. WooHoo!

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Glad you got it fixed, Tally Ho!


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #962002
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Me too. Thanks.
Now I wish I could do the same for Mystery of the Druids. I suspect a new video card is the answer for that one.

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Melia, I was moving your post "I had trouble with installing it and then running it, too. Uninstalled." to Glitches, but somehow it got lost. I apologize.

Please everyone, as I mentioned earlier in the thread and Rushes reinforced, do not post here for technical issues. Please post in Glitches.


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Fantastic news! I also hope there will be a PC version. grin


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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #962276
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Considering the fact that it's the PC gamers who are howling for Grim Fandango in any version...fixed up by GOG (over 40,000 votes) or Tim Schafer's hotted up Grim...and most console gamers have probably never even heard of it, it would be idiotic not to make it available for the PC.

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I can't picture how this game would work without the keyboard controls.
It would have to be entirely re-constructed.

Let the people with pliktrologiophobia play something else! lol

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Lol! You've got Merriam-Webster beat, Tally Ho!

Here's one for the books since you bring up the unknown-until-now tank control phobia (so that's what you call it): I've actually seen posts on another forum wishing that they would completely redo the background graphics!

And people think I'm nuts.

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Re: Grim Fandango remastered announced! [Re: plswdth] #962472
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HeeHee -

I only looked up the Greek word for keyboard. Came up with: πληκτρολόγιο

Maybe it's because we all suffered from Triskaidekaphobia yesterday! smile Sounds like I had nothing useful to do, right?

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As a VITA owner, I can see why Sony is behind this game - because the VITA has an OLED touch screen -adventure games are a joy to play on it. I have an extensive collection of adventure games on the VITA an I'll get this one as well.

Using a touch screen this game will control well. The VITA is a very popular platform for adventure games.

I looked and could not find any information on a PC release.


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