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#965453 - 06/30/14 01:43 PM Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014
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Ragnar Tørnquist has updated the Kickstarter page for this game. Link:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/redthread/dreamfall-chapters-the-longest-journey/posts/890605

He mentions that the game will be in 5 parts:

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We initially debated splitting the game in two, like other recently Kickstarted adventure titles. And since our story is already divided into five books, this felt like the natural way to break it up. The shorter wait between books will also, we hope, be easier to endure. This is not going to change the game's story. The five Books will tell the story we always intended to tell; a story that concludes the Dreamer Cycle and Zoë Castillo's role in The Longest Journey saga...but not the saga itself. (Yep, there's more to come.)


They decided to make it into 5 parts since they didn't want to make

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[....]deep cuts, removed a lot of the characters, story-lines and locations — but we would have ended up with a different game than the one that's played inside our heads for the better part of a decade, a different game than the one we've promised our backers. We would have lost much of the magic and narrative depth. And we would've still had to delay our release into next year.


And the first episode will be out Autumn 2014.
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#965455 - 06/30/14 01:50 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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I'm not surprised, that's what I assumed would happen all along.

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#965509 - 06/30/14 07:13 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Yes. I was sent that information and wasn't super happy to receive it rolleyes

I don't like games delivered in episodes.
And that wasn't what I pledged for when I backed the project !!

So, a long wait for me as I will be hanging on until all the episodes are finished and I can play a complete game duh
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#965555 - 07/01/14 01:13 AM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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Let's see, Episode 1 in August or September and then 5 episodes with a 2 or 3 month period between episodes which means that the final game could be finished in about 18 months. This is good news?????
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#965663 - 07/01/14 01:14 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: oldman]
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Originally Posted By: oldman
with a 2 or 3 month period between episodes

Isn't that a bit overly optimistic?

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#965681 - 07/01/14 02:10 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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Jenny100 when you're right you're right. lol I was giving them the benefit of the very big doubt.
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#965720 - 07/01/14 05:45 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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Actually, Ragnar T. says this a little later in the update, link here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/redthread/dreamfall-chapters-the-longest-journey/posts/890605

Quote:
We will announce the release date for Book Two soon after the release of Book One, and we will work very hard to keep the wait between books as brief as possible. Book Two is already in alpha, and Book Three isn’t far behind.


So it could well be that there will be 3 months between each episode for this game.
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#965757 - 07/02/14 12:00 AM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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You know, I'm actually okay with this. I was a bit disappointed at first, and of course I would prefer to get the full game at once. However, it seems they had to revise their plans, and I understand that snags can and will happen. Also, there are advantages to it. If I were to get the full game, I just know I would binge play it, and before I knew it, it would be over with. This way, I'll be able to play it over a longer period of time, and it sounds as though there will be a lot more to each episode than current TellTale offerings. (Not that I still don't love their games, too. wink) And of course, once the full thing is out, I can always play the whole thing at once, which I'm sure I will do several times anyway. grin

By the way, I'm sure it will be posted here officially anyway, but here is a link to the trailer in case anyone is interested. I think it looks fantastic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ktxliB-b-4&feature=youtu.be. smile

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#965766 - 07/02/14 02:52 AM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Mad]
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Originally Posted By: Mad
Yes. I was sent that information and wasn't super happy to receive it rolleyes

I don't like games delivered in episodes.
And that wasn't what I pledged for when I backed the project !!

So, a long wait for me as I will be hanging on until all the episodes are finished and I can play a complete game duh


Nothing Ragnar does surprises me. Yes this is a disappointment but considering the cob job Dreamfall was, I am in no hurry. It seems initially many years ago we heard "You will not have to wait long for the continuation of April's story. Then, far longer than not too long, April got thrown aside for a hybrid came featuring another character who in my opinion was far less compelling.

Then we were promised answers to what happened to April after she was 'killed, or not killed'. Then came Kickstarter and after backing the game, I find "Oh no April's story will come at a later date after Dreamfall chapters." Empty promises appear to be the norm. Then chapters became a complete game, another kick starter promise. Now we find out the chapters are back to chapters again, so you now say.

"but we would have ended up with a different game than the one that's played inside our heads for the better part of a decade, a different game than the one we've promised our backers."

Really, Ragnar which promise are you referring to, the idea of a complete game, or what happened to April and crow?

This vague comment, " This is not going to change the game's story. The five Books will tell the story we always intended to tell; a story that concludes the Dreamer Cycle and Zoë Castillo's role in The Longest Journey saga...but not the saga itself. (Yep, there's more to come.)"

Do I need to remind you "The five Books will tell the story we always intended to tell;" Which story is that? We have heard many variations of your intentions. I for one am fed up with broken promises. In the meantime I'll play TLJ again and if you ever deliver then I'll pay attention.

In other words we can expect more ignoring of the initial characters without whom you wouldn't have a game in the first place. We have no promise Zoe will not get the shaft as well. I can see another coma to be resolved in 2024. The answers you did not provide in Dreamfall won't be forthcoming here either. For ten years I kept reading quotes of yours hinting we will be hearing from April again. It seems that was a dodge to mollify angry gamers.

Tell somebody who cares. When the five chapters arrive in total I may or may not play the game. At this point I could care less about continuation of Dreamfall. There is none of the character development in that bomb Dreamfall, that we found in perhaps the greatest story telling in a computer game of all time in TLJ.

Keep making promises and changing directions, there is a reason why we regard politicians as contemptible. You are acting the same. I keep referring to Dreamfall as a cob job. It could have been a good game if, you did not try to please the game box crowd, and if you never made TLJ in the first place. Not to mention break every promise you left us with after the first game. Take a hint stop talking.

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#965817 - 07/02/14 10:54 AM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: oldmariner]
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I see you are quoting my post, oldmariner, and whilst I am very disappointed with the new situation I don't think I am quite as upset by it as you are !! eek
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#965828 - 07/02/14 11:57 AM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: oldmariner]
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Bravo, old mariner.
It's nice to see someone hold a developer's feet to the fire over unfulfilled promises.
They seem to believe that everyone will put up with every swing of the weathervane as "exigencies demand" delays or changes or outright about-turns in what they once presented as graven in stone.
Ragnar Tørnquist is not the only one, only another in an increasing number of devs who don't seem to know the meaning of the word promise but expect our support no matter what.

Well, AFAIC, it's one thing to support the genre, as I imagine both you and I are ready and eager to do, quite another to accept one excuse after another for falling down on one's word.

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#965832 - 07/02/14 12:16 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: traveler]
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Originally Posted By: traveler
Bravo, old mariner.
It's nice to see someone hold a developer's feet to the fire over unfulfilled promises.

Gil.


I'm not sure Ragnar's feet are burning since he isn't here to read it. grin Perhaps it would be more effective if you post on the kickstarter page where you feel your pledge was not being honored as promised. Just a thought.
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#965837 - 07/02/14 01:01 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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Two thoughts on that if you're talking to me, Ana.
I haven't pledged anything to Chapters since I loathed TLJ and wouldn't pay a nickel to see the saga continued.
Oldmariner evidently believes he's been shafted by years of broken promises in regard to the continuation of a story he thoroughly enjoyed in its first outing though, and that's what I was responding to, his feelings and the current willingness of devs to forget all about what they initially promised if it becomes burdensome to them for some reason or another.

As for not being here to read oldmariner's post or mine, why isn't he?
It looks to me as if a developer would be interested, if not compelled, to find out what gamers are thinking outside their forums which are often populated by vocal fanboys.
But the way they've been acting, it could very well be that they aren't.

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#965838 - 07/02/14 01:26 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Karsten]
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I guess the reality of it is, that Kickstarter is a potential risk, and not every promise that a developer initially makes on a project will be fulfilled. They'll chop and change and adjust, according to their whim/creative drive/necessity. Nothing is definite until the final product is up and ready with a firm release date. I don't do Kickstarter. I don't choose to risk my money on an eventual product that may not be to my liking or preference. If I lose out, that's fair enough. smile I certainly don't like chaptered games, so I likely won't be indulging in Dreamfall Chapters. The current global financial situation aside, I think wistfully back ten years, when things weren't so complicated for the end user.
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#965850 - 07/02/14 02:38 PM Re: Dreamfall Chapters will feature 5 Episodes beginning Autumn 2014 [Re: Rushes]
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I support Kickstarter projects "selectively" if and when I can afford to.
After all, I lose nothing if the pledges made don't reach the desired target.
But some outcomes are certainly better than others - even when the desired target IS reached yes
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