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The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) #1072819
07/02/16 01:16 AM
07/02/16 01:16 AM
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Long Beach, Australia
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Hi all
Here we go again! smile
In case you have forgotten or are new, our annual list provides the answer to the question "If I want to play an adventure game, what should I play?".
I started it years ago for the self-serving purpose of knowing the answer to that very question. It has been a valuable resource, and not just for me, as well as a bit of annual fun.
Since we began, we have increased the number of recommendations you can make, given the proliferation of indie and downloadable games, and we introduced the Hall of Fame, to identify those games that always did well and therefore we didn’t need them to be recommended each year.
After conferring with the muckys, we have made some more changes.
The main one is the induction of five more games to the Hall of Fame. We looked at the recent results, and the results across the years, drank some wine, conferred, drank some more wine, and included the following:

Broken Sword 1 (Circle of Blood, Shadow of the Templars)
Dreamfall
Gabriel Knight 1: Sins of the Fathers
Still Life
Lost Horizon

The other change (and ok I confess I didn’t confer with anyone on this) was to affectionately name the list. Given that Boaty McBoatface was taken (and Listy McListface would just be a rip off), I settled on Isabelle, for very obvious and worthy reasons joy
So welcome to Isabelle, the list of games you would recommend people should play.
There are some rules:

1. Games in our Hall of Fame are ineligible, for the reason identified above (ie we know they are worth playing else why would they be in the Hall of Fame). Votes for those games won't be counted. Those games are:

Amerzone
Black Mirror
Broken Sword 1 (Circle of Blood, Shadow of the Templars)
Dark Fall: The Journal
Dreamfall
Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers
Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within
Grim Fandango
Longest Journey
Lost Crown
Lost Horizon
Myst
Riven
Sanitarium
Still Life
Syberia
Syberia 2
Timelapse
Zork Nemesis
Zork Grand Inquisitor

2. You can recommend a maximum of 20 games. You can choose to recommend less.
3. You cannot recommend a series. If you want to recommend all the Tex Murphy games, that will take 6 (is it still six??) separate recommendations, one for each game.
4. Episodic adventures will be counted as one game, regardless of where they are up to in the series.
5. Uru and its add ons will be counted as one game.
6. BadMojo and the Redux version are one game. Ditto any other spruced up releases (eg RHEM 4)
7. Directors cuts and Special Releases will be counted as the same game.
8. Adventure games only (Dark Side games and Casual games get their own lists).
9. PC games please (although if you sneak a console game in I won't tell)
10. You cannot recommend 20 Nancy Drew games (an arbitrary rule I just made up)

If at all possible, please list in alphabetical order - it makes counting so much easier. In doing so, ignore "the" (so The Dark Eye would be under "D" for Dark)
The thread stays open for about 3 weeks, and I will (endeavour to) post updates and pithy insights as we go. I dropped the ball last year ([blip] that real life) so have a lot to make up for. Also, avoid editing your lists after posting because Chief and I count as we go, and may miss a change.
Who wants to post the first set of Isabelle recommendations? thumbsup


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Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072831
07/02/16 08:51 AM
07/02/16 08:51 AM
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Thanks so much for doing this again Flotsam and Chief!

Ana wave


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Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072834
07/02/16 09:02 AM
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Thanks flotsam and Chief!

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: MaG] #1072844
07/02/16 10:05 AM
07/02/16 10:05 AM
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United Kingdom
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Thanks mucho flotsam and Chief - and here is my list.
Mainly oldies but a couple of newies laugh

Agatha Christie : The ABC Murders
Ark of Time
Black Dahlia
Black Sails Ghost Ship
Blackstone Chronicles
Blade Runner
Carol Reed Colour of Murder
Discworld Noir
Dragonsphere
Flight of the Amazon Queen
Indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis
Journeyman Project 3 Legacy of Time
Kathy Rain
Legend of Kyrandia
Lost In Time
Murder in the Abbey
Return to Zork
Riddle of Masterlu
Sherlock Holmes The Awakened
Tormentum Dark Sorrow


Time : The Most Precious Commodity
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072862
07/02/16 11:02 AM
07/02/16 11:02 AM
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Arcadia (twin world of Stark)
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The list is back. happydance Thanks, flotsam and Chief! The new hall of fame games cleared up five more spaces on my list. lol

Book of Unwritten Tales, The
Cat Lady, The
Cognition: An Erica Reed Thriller
Culpa Innata
Dig, The
Dreamfall Chapters
Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned
Gray Matter
King's Quest (episodic)
King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
Life is Strange
Memoria
Moebius: Empire Rising
Moment of Silence, The
Overclocked
Oxenfree
Night of the Rabbit, The
Runaway: A Road Adventure
So Blonde
Walking Dead, The


Interrogator: [True or false?] All mangoes are golden. Nothing golden is cheap. Conclusion - all mangoes are cheap.

Helena: Where are these mangoes?
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072872
07/02/16 11:59 AM
07/02/16 11:59 AM
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Hillegom, ZH, NL
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And Then There Were None
Barrow Hill
Dark Fall II
Dark Fall III
Dig, The
Dreamweb
Flight of the Amazon Queen
Indiana Jones III: The Last Crusade
Indiana Jones IV: The Fate of Atlantis
Journey Down I, The
Journey Down II, The
Last Crown: Midnight Horror, The
Loom
Maniac Mansion
Maniac Mansion II: Day of the Tentacle
Overclocked
Police Quest I
Police Quest II
Police Quest III
Zak McKraken and the Alien Mindbenders

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: Jarkeld] #1072884
07/02/16 01:24 PM
07/02/16 01:24 PM
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Upper Arlington, Ohio
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Here is my list:

Ankh 1
Broken Sword 2
Discworld 1
Discworld 2
Fable
Gilbert Goodmate
Kings Quest 7
Legend of Kyrandia 1
Maniac Mansion:Day of the Tentacle
Monkey Island 1
Monkey Island 2
Monkey Island 3
Runaway 1
Secret Files Tunguska
Shivers 1
Simon the Sorcerer 1
Simon the Sorcerer 2
The Dig
Tony Tough Night of the Roasted Moths
Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders




It's nice to be important but it is much more important to be nice.
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072886
07/02/16 03:12 PM
07/02/16 03:12 PM
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Québec
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summer

wave2 flotsam


-Carol Reed, Bosch's Damnation

-Carol Reed, Shades of Black

-Conspiracies 2

-Dreamfall Chapters

-Prominence

-RoonSehv, NeTerra

-Sherlock Holmes, Jack the Ripper

-Sherlock Holmes, Nemesis

-Sherlock Holmes, The Testament of SH

-Tex Murphy, Tesla Effect

-URU

-Yoomurjak's Ring





Chief
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072888
07/02/16 03:33 PM
07/02/16 03:33 PM
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Eek! Hmm... okay:


Ankh 3: Battle of the Gods
The Book of Unwritten Tales
Broken Sword 2: The Smoking Mirror
Ceville
The Curse of Monkey Island
Day of the Tentacle
The Dig
Discworld Noir
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Journey Down Chapter Two
Journey to the Moon
Nelly Cootalot: The Fowl Fleet
Primordia
Resonance
Runaway 3: A Twist of Fate
Sam and Max Season One
The Secret of Monkey Island
Technobabylon
The Next Big Thing
Zak McKraken and the Alien Mindbenders

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1072924
07/03/16 09:20 AM
07/03/16 09:20 AM
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Arcadia (twin world of Stark)
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I can't believe I forgot The Last Crown: Midnight Horror. slapforehead Oh, well, too late now. Interesting to see the lists now that the new hall of fame games have been added. smile


Interrogator: [True or false?] All mangoes are golden. Nothing golden is cheap. Conclusion - all mangoes are cheap.

Helena: Where are these mangoes?
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073040
07/04/16 03:31 AM
07/04/16 03:31 AM
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Long Beach, Australia
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Nice start people.
Already a broad array of older and new


Quantity has a quality all of its own
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073122
07/04/16 02:52 PM
07/04/16 02:52 PM
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Blackstone Chronicles
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
Daemonica
Dead Reefs
Death Gate
Destination: Treasure Island
Dust: A Tale of the Wired West
Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned
Nancy Drew: Last Train to Blue Moon Canyon
Phantasmagoria
Secret of Monkey Island
Return to Mysterious Island
Riddle of Master Lu
Sam and Max Hit the Road
Shannara
Shivers
Tex Murphy: Overseer
Tex Murphy: Pandora Directive
Tex Murphy: Tesla Effect
Tex Murphy: Under a Killing Moon

Thank you, flotsam. dance

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073198
07/05/16 11:27 AM
07/05/16 11:27 AM
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southeast USA
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Atlantis 2 (Beyond Atlantis)
Aura
Day of the Tentacle
Dark Eye: Memoria
Dracula Origin
Faust: 7 Games of the Soul
Moment of Silence
Morpheus
Myst III: Exile
Obsidian
Outcry (aka Sublustrum)
Primordia
Return to Mysterious Island
RHEM 2
Secret of Monkey Island
Shivers
Schizm: Mysterious Journey
Schizm: Mysterious Journey 2
Sentinel: Descendants in Time (aka Realms of Illusion)
Uru

So -- same as last year.
I haven't played anything that tops these that isn't already in the "Hall of Fame" list.

EDIT -- removed GK1 and added Primordia

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: Jenny100] #1073202
07/05/16 12:11 PM
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Jenny, Gabriel Knight 1 is in the Hall of Fame, so feel free to choose a different game for your list. wave

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073203
07/05/16 12:12 PM
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Agatha Christie: Evil Under the Sun
Book of Unwritten Tales 1
CSI Miami
Dracula 2: The Last Sanctuary
Gabriel Knight 3
Laura Bow: Dagger of Amon Ra
Sherlock Holmes: Secret of the Silver Earring
Shivers
Shivers 2: Harvest of Souls
Tex Murphy: Overseer
Tex Murphy: Under a Killing Moon

Those are all I can remember, I have played a few others this year, but they don't belong on any top 20-list. More bottom 20-list frown

Caroline


I haven't lost it, I just can't find it....
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: Marian] #1073205
07/05/16 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marian
Jenny, Gabriel Knight 1 is in the Hall of Fame, so feel free to choose a different game for your list.

Thanks Marian.
I missed that.
I've removed GK1 and added Primordia to the list.

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: Jenny100] #1073215
07/05/16 05:46 PM
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I love seeing some love for Monkey Island and Zak McKracken. happydance


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Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: Space Quest Fan] #1073252
07/06/16 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Space Quest Fan
I love seeing some love for Monkey Island and Zak McKracken. happydance


There will always be MUCH love for Monkey Island and Zak McKracken! smile

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073375
07/07/16 08:24 AM
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Amber: Journeys Beyond
Broken Age
Broken Sword 2
Broken Sword 3
Dreamfall
Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy)
Gabriel Knight 3
The Last Express
Morpheus
Myst 3: Exile
Myst 5: End of Ages
Portal
Portal 2
RHEM
RHEM 2
Sherlock Holmes vs Arsene Lupin (Nemesis)
Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper
Tex Murphy: UAKM
Tex Murphy: The Pandora Directive

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073378
07/07/16 08:53 AM
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frazap, Dreamfall being in the All of Fame List, would you like to replace it by another game?

Just add an Edit so flotsam and I can see it.

Thanks.

Chief wave


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Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073418
07/07/16 05:09 PM
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On a quick assessment there is about 30 years between oldest and newest


Quantity has a quality all of its own
Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073426
07/07/16 06:57 PM
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Interesting info flotsam! wave

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: Chief] #1073482
07/08/16 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chief
frazap, Dreamfall being in the All of Fame List, would you like to replace it by another game?

Just add an Edit so flotsam and I can see it.

Thanks.

Chief wave


Oh. Sorry, I didn't notice... No, I don't wish to replace it with another game.:)

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: flotsam] #1073509
07/08/16 12:10 PM
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Agatha Christie: And Then There Were None
Black Sails: The Ghost Ship
Blade Runner
Book of Unwritten Tales 1
Carol Reed: Shades of Black
Cat Lady, The
Cognition: An Erica Reed Thriller
Culpa Innata
Dead Reefs
Dig, The
Dreamfall Chapters
Gray Matter
Last Express, The
Last Half of Darkness: Tomb of Zojir
Moebius: Empire Rising
Primordia
Sherlock Holmes, The Testament of
Tormentum Dark Sorrow
Vanishing of Ethan Carter, The
Walking Dead, The

Re: The List 2016 (aka Isabelle see below) [Re: michele rose] #1073522
07/08/16 03:10 PM
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1. Agatha Christie: The A.B.C. Murders
2. Alter Ego
3. Aura
4. Baron Wittard
5. Barrow Hill
6. Belief and Betrayal
7. Daemonica
8. Forgotten...It Begins
9. Jazz and Faust
10. Memento Mori
11. Mystery of the Druids
12. Necronomicon
13. Outcry
14. Overclocked
15. Riddle of the Sphinx
16. Sacred Rings
17. Salammbo
18. Secrets of Da Vinci
19. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened
20. Sinking Island


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