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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: mrbill] #1110440
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Originally Posted By: mrbill
I see that new controllers run between maybe $50 to $80.

Are you looking at joysticks or gamepads?
You can get a new USB gamepad for around $20.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gamepad

Ideally you'd try one out in a local shop to make sure it fit your hands.

Originally Posted By: mrbill
I'm looking for a connector from a 15 pin (two rows) to a USB.

Gameport-to-USB adapters aren't as cheap as you'd expect.
According to user reviews, the Rockfire adapter will work with a Gravis Analog Pro joystick, but the Rockfire costs about the same as a new gamepad.
https://www.amazon.com/game-Adapter-Rockfire-RM-203-gameport/dp/B004HAX7OU/qid=1494800898

Since you don't even like your old Gravis Joystick, there's not much advantage to getting the adapter over a new USB gamepad.

Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1110458
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Thank you Jenny,

I'm an avid Point & Click old man who is probably too stubborn to change, but I'll give it a go. I should have kept to the topic instead of adding other stuff. Is there a game manual for the game? I'll keep looking and if anyone comes across one, let us know.

Thank you,

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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: mrbill] #1110467
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Originally Posted By: mrbill
Is there a game manual for the game?

Check and see if Steam installed a manual (or readme) in the game folder.
Is there anything like a manual accessible through the game menu?
Any options for key mappings that would tell you the defaults?

There may not be any official manual.
There are some tips at the beginning of this FAQ
https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/959599-syberia-3/faqs/74745

Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » #1110470
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Hello all Gameboomers.

I was eagerly awaiting the 3rd Syberia game, replayed the first two to get the story again. Then I read the reviews. I normally don't read reviews and have liked many games that were panned by reviewers. I'm just wondering. I'm thinking of waiting till the price drops.

One thing I keeping seeing on reviews is that the game
Click to reveal..
has a cliffhanger ending


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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1110499
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Adam, I combined your question with this official Syberia thread because everything you need to know is in here. You can make your own decision after reading this thread.

Ana wave


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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1110508
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Cool. I will read it over. Thanks


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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1110936
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RE: Syberia3 Waiting so long and now I hope I can figure how to get it. However, I think I need to wait until I get a walkthrough. Thanks so much for all you guys do. I tell all I know who play how important your site is.
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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1110969
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Hello Judy,

Here is a pretty well done Walkthrough for Syberia 3:

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Cheers,

Mr. Bill

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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1111142
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From reading the reviews, the game is a hot mess. I loved Syberia 1 & 2 for the graphics, music, story and overall point & click simplicity. Unfortunately, AG developers seem to think that the majority of us are demanding a full 3-D experience (are we?) and, therefore, end up choosing engines that IMO interfere with the experience more than not (in this case requiring the keyboard and/or a joystick/game pad), not to mention ending up with programming bloat and huge hardware requirements.

I can't help but wonder what the acceptance would have been if Sokal/Microids had just used the original Syberia engine.

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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » #1111403
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Just an FYI for those that aren't playing because of the controls, Microids is working on a Mouse Only version that will hopefully be released in June.

Ana wave

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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1111422
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That sounds good Ana. Thanks for the news. I am mostly waiting for a really good sale.

Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1111437
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Great news, thanks, Ana. rah

I actually don't mind keyboard controls, but I prefer either character relative or a full 3d setup, where I can move the mouse like a camera while I steer the character. Camera relative is a pain, so I think I'll be using point and click once I finally pick the game up. Like oldbroad, I am going to wait for a really good sale as well. yes


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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1111454
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See also the topic I happened to post just the day before!

http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthre..._3_#Post1111201

Best,

Rich

Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1111478
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Did they actually say "point-and-click" or did they say "full mouse"...
Because they're not the same.

Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1111480
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Jenny, I revised my post to reflect "mouse only" instead of P&C. I didn't really think there was a difference.


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The update is on Steam now which in part says:

Controls:
- Addition of a Point and Click - "mouse only" - mode:

Now if only they would make it so you can save at will...

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Thanks, oldbroad. I will be interested in seeing how people like this.


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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1113957
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It's nice to have a cursor I can find. That open circle was always lost in the snow. Don't know about the rest yet since I finished the game over a week or so ago. As most of you know I've been working on saved games. smile Yes! They can be exchanged between players. Microids has 21 saves on their support website to help players.

Cheers,

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Re: Syberia 3 Launch Trailer: « Let the Great Migration begin! » [Re: oldbroad] #1113963
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
The update is on Steam now which in part says:

Controls:
- Addition of a Point and Click - "mouse only" - mode:

Now if only they would make it so you can save at will...

I'm still dubious about whether it's true point-and-click or whether it's actually click-and-hold.

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You're welcome Ana.

I've been following your thread regarding saves mrbill. Still would like to be able to save when I want to (when I eventually get the game).

Don't know Jenny100. Hopefully, somebody will come along and let us know.

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This is good news, as long as it isn't click and hold, as Jenny said. I actually don't mind direct control and sometimes even prefer it, which is something I never would have thought I'd say 20 years ago. However, I really don't like camera relative controls, so a change to point and click would definitely be preferable in this case.

I'm still waiting for the price to come down significantly before purchasing the game. Parts of it look nice enough from what I've seen in YouTube videos, but it's nowhere near the level of the first two games.


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They Have Changed the controls Greyfuss. You can now go forward with the mouse. When you click ahead it appears to be manholes that form until Kate gets there. The Curser is a large Golden Pointed item which is much easier to see then that thin walled circle of before. When I picked up one item I ended up with three of them (eliminating one other pick up from before). These are the differences so far. Stairs can still be problematic, but not as bad at all so far.

The Game does not save upon Quitting the game. They are most often at specific points. That is why finding a save for someone where they lost the game after a certain point may prove to be difficult.

Cheers,

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Originally Posted By: mrbill
They Have Changed the controls Greyfuss. You can now go forward with the mouse. When you click ahead it appears to be manholes that form until Kate gets there.

So is it actually point-and-click and not click-and-hold until Kate gets there?

What are the "manholes" supposed to indicate?
Are you supposed to interact with them?
Do they indicate where to click to have Kate take that path?

I guess it's hard to describe. If anyone finds a YouTube video showing the "manholes" let us know.

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Just imagine clicking on the road a manhole pops up and rolls around in position. It surprised me.

I guess they do that so you know where she is going. It's after the click.

Cheers,

Bill

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Been playing the new point and click version this evening. It's intuitive and a lot easier than before if you are playing on a PC.

Still a big issue about only one save. Probably makes sense to use a back-up from time time but microids has a lot that you can chose from to restart if you have a crash or it stops working properly at any point (as happened with me).

Syberia 3 is a lot better than the previous Syberia games. I'm loving it. Point and click has just made it even better.

It's big though so you'll need lots of disk space!

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