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===[**WCF**]=== #1189111
06/18/19 11:24 AM
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welcome By way of reminder, the object of this game is to solve (and briefly explain) the clue presented by the previous poster and then set your own clue.

Anything from the (worldwide) crossword arena is acceptable by way of clue style, but if you stray too far from the pure path beware the scourge of... Pandora's WET NOODLE! scared wavegirl

The puzzle could be an old favourite or something of your own making. Don't be shy: this is for everyone, not just the old hands!

For those unfamiliar with crossword clues who want to give it a try, there is plenty of guidance online and a quite entertaining and instructive book (not just for beginners) available from amazon http://www.amazon.com/The-Times-Crack-Cryptic-Crosswords/dp/0007546521/ref=dp_ob_image_bk and no doubt elsewhere, and for those who like British Crosswords you may like to try these (which are free): http://www.theguardian.com/crosswords and https://www.ft.com/crossword.

There is nothing to prevent (say) a couple of related clues if offering a single clue cramps your style.

If there are multiple answers involved, there is no restriction against one person solving all and the solver of the final clue/part is the one who goes next.

Obviously you need to await confirmation of a correct answer before posting your own puzzle, but please then do so reasonably promptly: if having answered correctly you are not going to be able to set a follow-up clue within about the next 18 hours, please pass your turn to someone else so that the game does not stall.

To save the poor demented solvers from excessive brain damage crazy , you should consider revealing one letter of the answer when the question is set, unless the answer is very short/easy so that provision of a letter hint at the outset would spoil the sport!

If no-one is biting within about 24 hours you should start dropping additional hints.

To try to give everyone a fair crack of the whip, the immediately previous setter is asked not to post a solution to the current clue within the first 24 hours.

The weighty trophy to be passed to whoever solves your clue is the jewel-encrusted World Clue Federation Championship Belt
===[**WCF**]=== praise ...now that manxman has returned it... wink

Constructive criticism and cheerful badinage are to be expected, not to mention a certain amount of national rivalry, but above all, have a bit of fun! dance

Next clue:

cutting down fat (10) - three vowels all different including one e

Last edited by Lex; 07/08/19 11:12 AM.

Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189131
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shortening - Double def


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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189135
06/18/19 03:57 PM
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So sorry Lex. slapforehead These senior moments are becoming more regular with each passing day (I think think )


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189162
06/19/19 03:46 AM
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Right in the pocket, Cue thumbsup

Hopefully manxman will shortly be sending you the Belt, but if not I will provide a duplicate... lol

(No problem over a senior moment Ed, I am enjoying my fair share of those!)

Last edited by Lex; 06/19/19 03:50 AM.

Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189171
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Thanks, Lex.

Happy father nails nanny, we hear (4,7)


Did you ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189173
06/19/19 06:19 AM
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189187
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That was a supercalifragilistic solve! grin

I wasn't given a belt so you're getting a bit of a knockoff =-=[**WCF**]==-


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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189193
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I'll wear it with pride anyway!

fish thrash trash (10) - three vowels, no e's.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Demosthenes] #1189214
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Here's the authentic belt ===[**WCF**]=== grin


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189251
06/20/19 02:09 AM
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Here's the authentic belt ===[**WCF**]===


rah dance joy2 catrub


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189272
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Yay!

Also if anyone's interested, I also just happen to have this completely genuine, one-of-a-kind, gently worn imitation belt that fell off the turnip truck yesterday.


Hint: two of the vowels are "o"

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189276
06/20/19 01:26 PM
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As no one else is nibbling, codswallop = trash - cods (fish) + wallop (thrash) smile


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189281
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That's the one! And lest I forget, here's your thrash wallop: ===[**WCF**]===

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189391
06/22/19 02:12 AM
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Thank you: I think I can just about take the punishment! smile

After changing sides, tenor and soprano taking openings and refrains (7) - two vowels of which one is e


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189440
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desists (anag. of sides + s, t) dance


The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189477
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Pitch perfect! thumbsup Here you go:
===[**WCF**]===


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189508
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Thanks, Lex! wave

Secure or insecure means (8)


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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Sherlock] #1189534
06/23/19 06:16 PM
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recourse (anagram of secure or) means smile


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: manxman] #1189538
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Nice one, Manxman! bravo I had resource but I didn't realize there may be more than one anagram that fits.
So, my recourse is to give you this resource. ===[**WCF**]=== thumbsup


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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189539
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Thank you Sherlock. Are you sure you can trust me with this resource smile

Villain raced to the audience (4) wave


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189554
06/24/19 12:44 AM
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A good question! lol


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189559
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hied -> homonym of Hyde
or is it
Hyde -> homonym of hied lol


Did you ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Cue] #1189560
06/24/19 07:13 AM
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Either way good solve Cue thumbsup
This resource is on its way to you ===[**WCF**]===


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189564
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Thanks, manxman smile

Location gets a mansion (6)


Did you ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189571
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p(a)lace

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189572
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Nice solve, Demosthenes. See if you can find a place for this ===[**WCF**]===


Did you ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189579
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Thanks, Cue! I'm sure I've got room for it somewhere...

backward exit in endless tears (10)

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189646
06/25/19 10:29 AM
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r(egress)ive smile


Did you ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189650
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Perfect! On to you--and here's this back. ===[**WCF**]===

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189653
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Many thanks smile

Conservative beginning to offend Liberal Democrat on train (3,6)


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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Cue] #1189658
06/25/19 05:27 PM
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old school thumbsup

O(ffend) L(iberal) D(emocrat) + school (train)


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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189709
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Nice solve, Cheryl. You've been well schooled. thumbsup Here's your reward ===[**WCF**]===


Did you ever stop to think and then forget to start again?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Cue] #1189768
06/26/19 06:28 PM
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Thank you, Cue! wave

Marshal terrifyingly carrying a rope for hanging (6)


The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189789
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Demosthenes] #1189853
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Here's your belt. (Not to be used for hanging!) grin ===[**WCF**]===


The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1189944
06/28/19 01:43 PM
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Yay! Hm...

Police force has prisoners grouped in cells at day's end. (12)

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190016
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To waste one second of one's life is a betrayal of one's self.
I wonder what's on television...?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190022
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Good solve, Rog! I believe this belongs to you:

===[**WCF**]===

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190027
06/29/19 10:21 AM
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Many thanks, Demosthenes smile

Continuing with the theme of law and order:

Method used to free lawman (7) - 1 e


To waste one second of one's life is a betrayal of one's self.
I wonder what's on television...?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190114
06/30/19 11:48 AM
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OK - must be hint time

1) Direct on the right
2) Four vowels, all different
3) Wordplay 2+5
4) Think north of the 49th parallel... whistle


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I wonder what's on television...?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Urban Worrier] #1190115
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Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190119
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Nice one, manxman! smile One arresting belt on its way: ===[**WCF**]===


To waste one second of one's life is a betrayal of one's self.
I wonder what's on television...?
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Urban Worrier] #1190123
06/30/19 12:36 PM
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Thank you UW wave

Worker in deficient cabin (6)


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: manxman] #1190183
07/01/19 09:25 AM
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direct on the right, no e's wave


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190185
07/01/19 09:53 AM
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Demosthenes] #1190192
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Demo, don't be shy wearing this ===[**WCF**]===


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190463
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Sorry for the delay--we're on vacation!

Scrooges recite “One Thousand and One Knights” (6)

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190486
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misers grin


The moon is actually more useful than the sun since the moon gives us light at night when it's dark. The sun only gives us light during the day when it's already bright out.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190488
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Good solve laugh

I won't begrudge you this: ===[**WCF**]===

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190501
07/05/19 08:14 AM
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Thank you, Demosthenes. Hope you're having a great vacation. smile

Look right around the forest (5)


The moon is actually more useful than the sun since the moon gives us light at night when it's dark. The sun only gives us light during the day when it's already bright out.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190576
07/05/19 08:11 PM
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Hint time: "around" is a reversal indicator smile


The moon is actually more useful than the sun since the moon gives us light at night when it's dark. The sun only gives us light during the day when it's already bright out.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Pandora] #1190578
07/05/19 08:21 PM
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trees (see rt) wink


The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190581
07/05/19 09:39 PM
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Glad you saw the forest! wave ===[**WCF**]===


The moon is actually more useful than the sun since the moon gives us light at night when it's dark. The sun only gives us light during the day when it's already bright out.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Pandora] #1190630
07/06/19 11:48 AM
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Many thanks! wave

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The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Sherlock] #1190707
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1 e, the only vowel. Direct on right. wink


The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Sherlock] #1190750
07/07/19 07:00 PM
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ye(ll)s wave


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: manxman] #1190753
07/07/19 07:33 PM
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*me yelling* Manxman wins this beautiful, shiny belt! bravo ===[**WCF**]===


The best math you can learn is how to calculate the future cost of current decisions.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Sherlock] #1190770
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Thank you Sherlock wave2

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Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190787
07/08/19 06:55 AM
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Ours = bear en français, and belonging to us in English. catrub


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190801
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Happy belated birthday Lex birthday
and here is your present ===[**WCF**]=== smile


Sometimes lost is where you need to be. Just because you don't know your direction doesn't mean you don't have one.
Re: ===[**WCF**]=== [Re: Lex] #1190813
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Thank you kindly: next clue on new thread, ===[**CDM**]=== replacing ===[**WCF**]=== with fanfare of trumpets!!


Life is what happens while you're making other plans.

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