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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #569153
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Tazanw has the same problem I have. What is D3drm.dll file and what do we do to fix this. I tried to install and play Crime Stories and Still Life but got this message. Can anyone help?

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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: carlahelp] #569156
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Originally Posted By: carlahelp
Tazanw has the same problem I have. What is D3drm.dll file and what do we do to fix this. I tried to install and play Crime Stories and Still Life but got this message. Can anyone help?

carlahelp


That's part of DirectX 9 - if the game prompts you to install DirectX, let it do so. If not, download and install the latest version of DirectX 9.0c (even when your PC is running DX 10 (or greater).

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ] #569167
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Thanks, Inland. I was hoping to find out what that was. In each of the older games I've installed, I've let the game install it's version of DX - except for the Shivers games.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #569204
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Now that makes me wonder-- when I load a newer game I let the game install their version of DX in case I am missing something- and it says something like-"we are checking your DX and will add what is necessary---missing. So the thought I am having now is--- if you load an older game does it take out the newer version and files??


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Winfrey] #569214
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I never knew for sure about that either, Winfrey. I can't remember if it was Inland or Jenny who explained to me that it doesn't.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #569216
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It does not remove older versions. And in the case of DX 10 and 11, the libraries are maintained in different folders so no harm will be done at all to the newer versions of DirectX.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ] #569412
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Installed Beyond Atlantis (Atlantis 2) last night and it runs fine with no tweaking. Also Aura and The Sacred Rings.
Can not get Beyond Atlantis 2 or The Riddle of the Sphinx to run. They both install but won't get beyond the intro. The Riddle of the Sphinx seems to have a problem about Quicktime, even though I let it install it's version.
Echo-The Lost Cavern installs but won't even start, the curser does it's little spin for a second or two and stops and that's it.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: sarahandus] #569956
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Nikopol (Big Fish version) and Casebook Episode III: Snake in the grass both perform well under Windows 7.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: sarahandus] #569957
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Here's a list of the games I've tried on my 7/64.

install and run-

Agon The Lost Sword of Toledo **
Amerzone
Aura-Fate of the Ages
Barrow Hill
Beyond Atlantis (Atlantis II)
Dracula-The Last Sanctuary
Dracula Resurrection
Dark Fall The Journal **
Keepsake
Last Half of Darkness-Beyond the Spirit's Eye *
Last Half of Darkness-The Tomb of Zogir *
Return to Mysterious Island
The Sacred Rings
The Lost Crown
Voyage
* there is a lot of black and forth flashing before the game starts, but after that it seems to play fine.
** with some hiccups.

Won't install or run

Echo The Lost Cavern
Byzantine - The Betrayal
Connections
Egypt II the Heliopolis Prophecy
Egyptian Prophecy
Dark Fall Lights Out
Shivers
Torin's Passage
The Dig
Last Half of Darkness-Shadow of the Servant

Amber & the Kyrandia series I didn't even try.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: sarahandus] #569975
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This will be interesting to see what works in 32-bit vs 64-bit. Which Shivers did you try? Shivers 1 installed and played perfectly. Shivers 2 required an installer from SquirtTheCat.

I tried Darkfall, Lights Out last night and so far it's playing perfectly.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #569996
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I just installed Scratches Director's Cut and got the BSOD when I tried to run it. Found your earlier posts about changing the value to 60. My problem is that I cannot save the cfg file. When trying to save, a window pops up and says that scream.cfg already exists and asks me if I want to replace it. If I say yes, it tells me that access is denied!!?? Am I doing something wrong? Here's a picture:


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Sherlock] #570006
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You need to elevate notepad - From the start menu, right click notepad and select Run as Administrator.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ] #570012
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Also you need to install the game in anywhere but Progamme files, otherwise you can't have access and save any changes.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Upsydaisy] #570022
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My Scratches game is installed in Program Files in the Nucleosys folder and it plays just fine from there?? I also made the Notepad changes from there and was able to save.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #570024
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Thank you, thank you!! praise
Just to be safe, I uninstalled and reinstalled somewhere else. I was also able to make changes in notepad and the game is running now!! happydance


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Sherlock] #570038
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Great, Sherlock!


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: sarahandus] #570065
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Originally Posted By: sarahandus
Won't install or run

Shivers
Torin's Passage
The Dig
Last Half of Darkness-Shadow of the Servant

Amber & the Kyrandia series I didn't even try.

For Torin's Passage use this installer. Shivers 1 is a 16-bit game and won't run on 64-bit Windows. If you have 64-bit Windows you will need to run the the non-DOS games in a virtualizer. For the DOS games use DOSBox. Also, don't forget about ScummVM. It supports the Kyrandia series and the LucasArts Scumm games, including The Dig. Even though jafa did not test his installers on Windows 7, I would be surprised if they didn't work on Win7.

On a side note, I just installed Windows 7 Pro 64 on my workstation and will be able to start experimenting, myself. One thing that I want to do is to start testing some of my new Sierra installers to see if there are any issues with them on Win7 that need to be fixed.

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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570112
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Collector, I can't wait for your results. When you get them working, would you like that million dollars in cash or as a check?


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #570149
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I absolutely LOVE my Win 7 Pro 64! laugh
It plays everything I throw at it - also applications. So Cool.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: misslilo] #570200
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I have Microsoft's Virtual Machine installed on the other HD with XP as well as Scummv, that's where I play those old games. Yes, I received the error message they were 16bit and non-workable for 7 64 bit windows.

I don't love this new fangled thing. Maybe some day when I figure out how to find things like restore and documents without trawling through mounds of files. In the meantime it does play the games that work very nicely.

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Two clicks for Documents and after opening up Control Panel, 3 clicks for System Restore. Easy!


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #570503
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It may be easy for you but I can't find documents from control panel, have to use start menu. And the restore seems to be erratic, some time it's as you say three clicks but the last time took wandering around to find another way in. Of course that time was because of a crash and resulting problems with the folders.

But there are so many things that won't work in 7 that were a snap in XP, for instance moving things from one folder to another. Just point to move was so easy as compared to drag and drop.

Ah well, I'll get use to it some day.

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I don't think you can find documents from control panel. I use the folder looking icon in the taskbar which is also called Libraries. From there, I have access to everything.

Hey, I've had - oh, about 5 more months of wandering around in the OS than you have, so I MIGHT have an advantage on you! cool


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Here are my initial results on Windows 7 Pro 64. I have many more that I can check. Note that I only checked to see if the games started and that I could do basic game play, such as in game navigation and interaction with objects, etc. and did not play any of these games very far, so there may be specific bugs that may arise at later point in the games. Also I do not think that it hurts to have multiple reports on the same games, as some may have issues with certain games and others not. This can eliminate Windows 7 specific issues and what may just be problems with hardware, driver or configuration differences.

Works for me without issue:

A Tale of Two Kingdoms (AGS game)
Barrow Hill
The Black Mirror
Culpa Innata
Dark Fall
ECHO
Indigo Prophecy
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Keepsake
The Longest Journey
Dreamfall
Paradise
Penumbra
Sinking Island
Stargate Adventure (AGS game)
Syberia
Syberia 2
Sam and Max - Season One
Titanic: Adventure Out Of Time


Runs, but with tweaking and/or issues:

The Last Express - Compatibility issue message on close.
The Neverhood - Win 95 compatibility mode for installer, color artifacting
Sanitarium (2nd release)- color artifacting
Scratches - BSOD, but runs by editing config file as previously noted.

Requires XP Mode:
Obsidian
NOIR - Requires XP Mode to run 16-bit game on 64-bit Windows, had to disable integration features for compatibility mode to get 640x480x 256 colors.

Will not even start for me, even in XP Mode:

Crystal Key 2 - Does not work on XP/Vista, either
Still Life - Black screen only, game does not load.
The Legend of Lotus Spring - Does not work on XP/Vista, either
King's Quest: Mask of Eternity - Does not work in Vista, either


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570623
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It's great to have multiple experiences and I see that they seem to be consistent with mine so far. Did you figure out a fix for the color artifacting in Sanitarium? I got it too, but have not had time to troubleshoot it.


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