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Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days!

Posted By: Carla

Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 08:37 PM

Apparently there were quite a few people waiting for this game lol

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“To reach our target in just 13 days is incredible,” says Charles Cecil, managing director, Revolution Software. “The generosity of fans and supporters, both in terms of money pledged and the passion that they have displayed on the forums, is absolutely overwhelming. I would like to thank each and every person who has taken the time and trouble to pledge their support – and promise that the game we create will reward their faith.

“What’s so exciting is that we’ve still got 16 days to go. So we are in the fantastic position of being able to define ‘stretch goals’ which, if achieved, would allow us to realize our wildest ambitions. Stretch goals will include gameplay that had previously ended up on the cutting room floor, exotic new locations to explore, extra characters - some of which will be familiar - as well as a big surprise.

“Additionally, we are adding extra rewards to those originally defined. These include a free Android version to those who pledge over $25 and confirmation that we will voice in Spanish and Italian as well as English, German and French. We will be announcing more new rewards shortly."


Posted By: Mad

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 08:40 PM

Thanks, Carla smile I got the "news email" earlier today and I am SO looking forward to this game yay yay yay
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 08:44 PM

Ditto Mad! yay

Thanks Carla!

Ana wave
Posted By: Carla

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 08:55 PM

I'm the only one who didn't receive the news from them directly? The one I posted was a press release think
Posted By: Mad

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 08:58 PM

I've received several "news" emails about the game so far, Carla. [I think as a result of pledging ??]
Posted By: Carla

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 09:01 PM

I pledged as well, Mad, and I received several emails too, but not this one duh
Never mind, as far as they remember to give the game to me when it's finished lol

Update: I received it just now.
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 09:01 PM

Me too Mad. It came from backing the kickstarter.

Ana wave
Posted By: oldman

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 09:02 PM

I'm hoping that they reach their dream target of 1 million (wishful thinking?) because they wrote in their email that they would then be able to realize a dream of doing Beneath a Steel Sky 2. That's another game I would like to see come to fruition.
Posted By: Becky

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 09:59 PM

Woo-hoo! broccoli Beneath a Steel Sky 2, here we come!
Posted By: GreyFuss

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 10:46 PM

I certainly congratulate Charles Cecil and his team on surpassing the games goal and the announcement of the stretch goals but am I the only one that finds something wrong with the 1 Million stretch goal reward?

Isn't it presumptuous on Cecils part that the money that the honest contributors gave so they may see another Broken Sword game will be taken and used on another game? This doesn't seem right to me, shouldn't they just have a separate Kickstarter for Beneath a Steel Sky 2. I am not all that sure that using money pledged for one game is even allowed by Kickstarter to be used for something else. Am I the only one?

Other than that I sure will look forward to another revived original adventure series game to play.
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 11:21 PM

Greyfuss, they will begin work on the Beneath a Steel Sky 2. THey will do the Broken Sword game first.

Ana wave
Posted By: traveler

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 11:22 PM

I haven't read the over 9 thousand comments on the Kickstarter site but I know that quite a few people have said they'd like to see a BaSS 2 and Revolution does seem to be paying attention to what the backers want in regard to all aspects of Broken Sword 5, including its stretch goals. For instance, there was a lot of negative comment about downloadable content that would be available only to backers. They listened and scotched that idea.

I don't see it as presumptuous to say that BaSS 2 could be in the works if they hit a goal of 1 million. They would be building on another very popular Revolution game and they'll find out soon enough if it's an idea their backers aren't going to like or support.

As far as Kickstarter fussing, I doubt it unless they're forced to. Tim's unnamed game and Broken Sword 5 have been quite successful. I doubt that stretch goal is going to give Kickstarter too many sleepless nights.


Gil.
Posted By: GreyFuss

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/05/12 11:39 PM

Don't get me wrong, I am all for a Beneath a Steel Sky 2 it just strikes me as strange that they drop this in the middle of a different announced Kickstarter game campaign already in progress that was not stated originally. Now if this had been a Kickstarter campaigned similar to Jane Jensen's which was more contributing to a game studio in order for it to make adventure games and announced as such at the beginning so all donators know exactly where the money is going then I can see it. This was a campaign that was strictly for a Broken Sword game. Kickstarter does have rules that apply to whoever wants to start a campaign for anything not just games. I only mention this because it seems odd to me. I guess there would be more discussion if they announced if a stretch goal of 1 million is reached all the overage would be given to their favorite charity or rebel militia cool
Posted By: HandsFree

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 01:31 AM

But how much money can you spend on just one game? If they can make it for 400.000 it's already stretching it unreasonably to spend a million on it. The game won't get better by limitless adding characters and locations.

I'm not sure what the kickstarter rules say, but I assume they can regard everything beyond what they need as profit. Using it for a next game that many fans want anyway sounds the best option to me.
Posted By: rmt

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 01:51 AM

If they ever reach one million, it will only be because of BASS 2. So in a way here is a second Kickstarter campaign on top of the first one (since the goal is now reached), and the money will be used exactly for what people will be pledging on from now on to the end, passed the $800,000 mark.

Pinkerton Road Studio did the same with Mystery Game X, so I don't see a problem? I bet that Mystery Game X will be as exciting if not more than Moebius.

I'm all for two adventure games for the price of one pledge within one Kickstarter campaign.
Posted By: traveler

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: HandsFree
But how much money can you spend on just one game? If they can make it for 400.000 it's already stretching it unreasonably to spend a million on it. The game won't get better by limitless adding characters and locations.


Maybe not, but it would get better if you can get the best voice actors for each language, the best artists and writers. Rolf Saxon is already going to voice George in English but what about the really good actors for French, Italian, Spanish, etc.?

Speaking for myself, a million really doesn't go as far as it used to. grin

Gil.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 03:21 AM

Was it ever announced anywhere that development of a Beneath a Steel Sky 2 could be a possible further option for the use of "pledged" monies - if the target funding for Broken Sword 5 was exceeded think

[When a scheme is set up with regard to a game I really want to see go ahead I tend to skip through a lot of the blurb and just pledge !! lol]

Because whilst I agree a second BaSS would definitely be a brilliant project, I do see what GreyFuss is saying smile
Posted By: rmt

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 04:13 AM

It only came about once the goal was reached. There were a lot of discussions about the stretched goals, what you get if you pledge some more from that point on. These stretched goals were decided based upon the suggestions they received from many of the 8000+ backers. So in all I would say it is all acceptable.
Posted By: Mad

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 04:56 AM

Originally Posted By: oldman
I'm hoping that they reach their dream target of 1 million (wishful thinking?) because they wrote in their email that they would then be able to realize a dream of doing Beneath a Steel Sky 2. That's another game I would like to see come to fruition.


Ahhhh !! Missed that bit !! redface
Posted By: PolloDiablo

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 08:05 AM

Greyfuss, and others, Revolution have put a lot of their own money in this project and it has been in production for a while. Getting that 1 million would just mean they regain so much of that money they put in themselves, that it would enable them to use all of the Kickstarters funds for BS5 and their own (now 'freed') money to make BASS2. They won't (and can't, per Kickstarter rules) use BS5 Kickstarter pledges for BASS2.
Posted By: HandsFree

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 08:24 PM

Originally Posted By: PolloDiablo
They won't (and can't, per Kickstarter rules) use BS5 Kickstarter pledges for BASS2.
What rule is that? I couldn't find anything in the kickstarter faq so I mailed them and got a reply that didn't really address the question what their rules are about what is/isn't allowed when a project exceeds its goal.

So for now I assume they can do what they want with the extra money.
Posted By: Carla

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 09:58 PM

Someone on Facebook raised the same doubts:
Question:
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Any chance you could do a separate kick-starter for beneath a steel sky 2 as I feel that would also do very well and green light broken sword 6? I love all your games as do alot of your fans but I think it would be more rewarding to those who have pledged to aim for another broken sword game! and by doing steel sky 2 on it's own can get the money needed with it's own stretch goals to help make another awesome game, let me know what you think thank you.

Charles Cecil answer:
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Thanks for your comments. Totally accept your point. We didn't want to imply that money from the Broken Sword pledges would be going into BASS2 - they are quite separate. It was intended as a bonus rather than an integral part of the stretch goal.

Question:
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I can accept that and would be quite happy if and when you start a kick-starter for BASS2 is on that games stretch goals on the million Mark you green light broken sword 6! I think that would be fair lol. Thank you for your reply, I truly cannot wait.

Charles Cecil answer:
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Yup. It is more about confidence than actually funding. You are right that we need to clarify - we are giving this some thought. Thanks for raising it :-)
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 10:23 PM

Thanks Carla!

Ana wave
Posted By: GreyFuss

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 10:30 PM

Thank you Carla for passing that along especially for us anti-social members...I mean those of us who don't play with social media
Posted By: Carla

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/06/12 10:39 PM

lol
we must keep our fingers in lots of pies to be updated!
Posted By: Mad

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/07/12 02:55 AM

Thanks, Carla !! Much appreciate how you keep us all so well informed !! yay
Posted By: oldman

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/07/12 04:58 AM

As I originally understood it, I thought they meant that for the first 4K they would be able to make the new BS Game for the additional 2K they would add some other goodies and for up to 8K they would be able to add even more and then if they reached a million the last 2K would be available to do BASS2. So the way I interpreted it was that only the last 2K would be needed for the second game.

So I don't see any conflict of interest between them. But then again what do I know?
Posted By: PolloDiablo

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/07/12 05:37 AM

HandsFree, I was referring to this rule (http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines):
1. Funding for projects only. A project has a clear goal, like making an album, a book, or a work of art. A project will eventually be completed, and something will be produced by it. A project is not open-ended. Starting a business, for example, does not qualify as a project.

The project is Broken Sword 5, so the funds are to be used for Broken Sword 5 only and not for any other games. Good to see Charles Cecil has confirmed that they will not use BS5 funds for BASS2, wouldn't want to see the project to be closed for violation of rules

eek
Posted By: HandsFree

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/07/12 11:21 AM

Yes, but that's the rule about what goals are allowed. You can not spend an infinite amount on one project.
The only rule I could find is that creators must fulfill all the rewards or provide a refund. If they make BS5 they're cool as far as the rules go.
If they deliver the game I don't think they're forced to tell everyone how much it actually costed.

I specifically asked kickstarter if they have rules about what you can or can not do with the money if you receive more than you need. And they only replied that standard kickstarter and amazon fees still apply. So I can only deduct that they have no rules for that.

Still weird that they don't want to give a clear answer...
Posted By: rmt

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/07/12 07:55 PM

I have been observing different Kickstarter projects and my conclusion is many campaigns simply don't follow the rules and it seems there is no consequence.

For example, how can someone without a company get 1 million without starting a company to develop their product when successful? Of course the money is indirectly to start a company.

I have seen many other examples, I just can't remember now... I would have to read all their guidelines again. I think their rules were written before the mega projects that went overboard and collected 1 million plus.

Kickstarter and Amazon's percentage is large, the profits they're making must be huge. I wonder what stops them from becoming international, Amazon is global and many competitors are already international.
Posted By: venus

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/12/12 02:37 PM

Great news that they've reached their goal. woot happydance

I really wish I could afford to get the box, but I'll have to make due with the 15 dollar level pledge. Oh, well, at least the game is DRM free. Looking forward to playing it. thumbsup
Posted By: SharonB

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/12/12 04:05 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth, Venus! smile
Posted By: mj2c

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/21/12 06:46 PM

Doh! I read that as Serpents Curse reaches gold in 13 days. Thought that was a bit quick :-)
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Broken Sword: The Serpent’s Curse reaches goal in 13 days! - 09/21/12 06:47 PM

lol Yes indeed!

Ana wave
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