Re: Jazz and Faust
[Re: oldbroad]
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01/14/19 03:06 AM
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Try turning off the graphics hardware extras. "True color" is OK, but turn off all those other graphics extras like fog, buffers, shadows, etc. If necessary, turn off graphics hardware acceleration too, but see how well the game works without doing that first. If the computer has hyperthreading or a dual processor, you could also try locking the game to a single processor. Some of the games that weren't made for multiple processors or hyperthreading will run slowly if the computer is trying to use more than one processor. http://www.gameboomers.com/Members/legacygameshyperthreading.htm
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 06:46 PM
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Thanks Jenny. Looks like maybe I won't be able to play it. I started the game, played a very short time, got stuck, was wandering around, didn't save (of course), went to the Berth, and the screen went black. Had to do a hard shut down. I'm going to give it another try but I'm going to use the walkthrough, which means going back and forth from one room to another since I don't have a working printer anymore. I often find old games to be fussy if you do things out of order or click around too much (the clicking thing may be the computer itself) and I cannot afford to keep doing hard shut downs especially since the start button on the XP computer is broken and I then have to unplug it and plug it in again to restart it, also use a knife on the start button to pull it out if it gets stuck in (while it's unplugged of course).
I'll let you know if I get any further.
Followed the walkthrough and had the same problem. The game doesn't crash. I can hear sound but cannot do anything. I see a patch on gamepressure.com. What do you think?
Last edited by oldbroad; 01/14/19 07:42 PM.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 07:55 PM
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I played Jazz and Faust years ago on a computer with Windows 98, and it was a crashpot. I don't know if it runs any better or worse on XP. It was definitely less stable than most older games from around 2002, some of which never crashed on me at all. http://www.pagodagamedatabase.com/year.php?year=2002Following the walkthrough will minimize crashes. Another thing you can do is exit the game and reboot every 15 or 20 minutes to keep the bad stuff that causes instabilities from accumulating in your computer's cache. Followed the walkthrough and had the same problem. The game doesn't crash. I can hear sound but cannot do anything. I see a patch on gamepressure.com. What do you think? From what I can tell it's supposed to improve compatibility with certain video cards and other unnamed fixes. Worth a try I guess. You may have to restart the game after patching for the patch to take effect.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 08:12 PM
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I must say I thought it odd that the manual states: "The Setup Options window is displayed when the game is started for the first time, when restarting after a crash, or when you launch the config.exe from the installation folder." Sounds like they expected a lot of crashes when they wrote the manual.
It doesn't seem like I should try to play it though it is a shame as it looks like a game I would really like. Since I did save this time just before trying to go to the berth, I may give it one more try. The walkthrough says that I will be told to go away (which I wasn't). I suppose I could skip the berth for now but that would probably just be putting off the inevitable, especially since you say the game is a "crashpot" and this is just the very beginning of the game.
Did you patch your game when you played it?
By the way, are there any other methods of bringing up the task manager or windows menu besides control/alt/delete and the windows key? I can tolerate crashes better if I just don't have to do a hard shut down.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 08:36 PM
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Did you patch your game when you played it? No, I played it when it was first released, before there was any patch. By the way, are there any other methods of bringing up the task manager or windows menu besides control/alt/delete and the windows key? I can tolerate crashes better if I just don't have to do a hard shut down. Since the Power button on your computer is broken you can't use that to shut the computer down. So I think Control/Alt/Delete is it while you're playing a game, at least with XP.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 09:24 PM
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I do use the power button for a hard shut down. I cannot use it to turn the computer on though. After shutting down from the start menu I have to unplug the computer. When I plug it in the computer starts up.
Can you bring the task manager or windows menu up any other way in Windows 7 if a game or something else locks you up? Just asking since you said "at least with XP". Is Win 7 any different?
Do you think I should try the patch from gamepressure.com? The download would come from alamo or krypta. ????? Don't know what either is or if they are safe.
Thanks for your help Jenny!
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 09:41 PM
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OK. Thank you very much!!
Yikes! That patches scrolls website is way to annoying and confusing for me. All kinds of google ads popping up! And nothing really seems to be there for downloading on gamepressure so the patch is a no-go.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/14/19 10:11 PM
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I don't see any Google ads there, but I have Ublock Origin installed in Firefox so maybe that blocks them. Go ***here***https://patches-scrolls.de/download.php?g=Jazz%2B%2526%2BFaust&f=jazup2uspl.zip Then click where it says Download.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/15/19 01:55 AM
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I don't have any ads either... but like Jenny, I use Ublock Origin.
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/17/19 12:18 PM
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I've been using Ublock Origin for a long time and I wouldn't be without it!
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Re: Jazz and Faust
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01/21/19 01:25 AM
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Yes I thought it was an interesting game. The locations were interesting. I like Jazz and Faust and have played it more than once - but if I remember correctly some parts are certainly a bit buggy [I still play it in Win98SE though. Haven't tried it WinXP.]
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