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#131290 - 02/14/06 11:10 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Unless you did a full install (something you would have done outside of the normal installation), the game will keep asking for the different discs. It's a pain, I know.
Do you have the first version or the one called "Original Saga" with the Tales of the Sword Coast expansion bundled with it? I have the bundle and it has 3 cd's. I think the original version had 6.

Anyway, you can get rid of Kagain, he's not paired with anyone, and he probably isn't too happy travelling with you, the Paladin, since he's evil.
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#131291 - 02/15/06 03:56 AM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Sorry fil, went to sleep ....
Oh, those horrid spiders, I didn't do them right away, well I did and realized, hey they kill..think I waited for a few more to join us and went back.

Don't feel bad, I think we all when first trying this felt the same way..but; since I heard the
"we all" made me feel a bit better.
My second Imonen got killed too..this time by some very bad guys, so I've got another one and character and fingers crossed that this time I remember to SAVE when she first pops out at me...make sure you look at your world map..go into the normal one click at top right to see world map, it will show you where you are and where your foster Dad got killed. It will be North from where you are now..go back and pick-up everything you can..
Oh, I'm going to be a fighter..good at sword and axe. happydance

Ingie laugh
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#131292 - 02/15/06 10:22 AM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Schwab, I bought the game in bits and pieces, Baldur's Gate is on three discs, Baldur's Gate II is on three discs and Throne of Bhaal is on one disc. Another question laugh I blew Garrick off the first time he talked to me about helping Silke, now he won't talk to me and neither will she. He's blocking the way to the Red Sheaf Inn and I can't go in. Do I have to start from an old save again? frown
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#131293 - 02/15/06 10:30 AM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Whoa, you really got down and played, can't remember that part but will try to be caught up soon..Have you tried threating him?

Ingie laugh
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#131294 - 02/15/06 11:01 AM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Unfortunately, in BG1, you can only accept quests the first time you are approached by the NPC giving it to you. The same way, some people will not talk to you if you have too low a charisma. That took a lot out of the game, and is something they reticified in BG2. So yes, you will have to do so. There is probably some variable for the console to make Garrick appear and approach you again, but I do not know it. There is a list of them at certain web sites, such as www.cheatcc.com. Try looking for a cheat code that says "spawns indicated character", and then simply write "Garrick". I tried that a few months ago while helping Alice with spawning Officer Vai, and it worked fine.
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#131295 - 02/15/06 12:44 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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The Gamebanshee site has great walkthroughs. Just search your game in their drop down menu and then click on Walkthrough. I usually read up about each area before I do anything to see if I should avoid something if I am not ready for it. It also helps you find some obscure treasures that I walked right by when I played without it. It also gives you some strategies with dealing with certain fights.

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#131296 - 02/15/06 01:36 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Oh Phooey! I really have to go back far in order to trigger Garrick again. Guess I'll have to keep checking the walkthrough to make sure this doesn't happen again.
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#131297 - 02/17/06 08:04 AM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Devoting today to BG to hopefully catch up with fil..
We're at the friendly arms..of course I need to talk a bit and mosey around a bit
..before getting crunched..

Ingie lol
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#131298 - 02/17/06 07:40 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Ingie, I'm sure you'll catch up to me soon, since I have to load up old saved games all the time because I keep losing people in my party. Sometimes it seems like more trouble than it's worth, but since I have to have people along with me, I guess I just have to do it. laugh
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#131299 - 02/17/06 08:04 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Fil, if you would let us know who you have in your party and a typical fight situation that doesn't go your way, we may be able to give some specific pointers.

As for me, my somewhat evil aligned party was tooling around the first few zones of the city, when I saw on the map that I had missed a couple of outdoor areas, so last night we hit the eastern-most sectors and got lots of xp from those nasty basilisks. Let me tell you, summoned skeletons are a great shield against their deadly gaze.

I've got a cleric travelling with Imoen, Kagain, Shar Teel, Edwin, and Garrick. I had Eldoth for awhile but he wanted to rescue his friend Skie, the thief, but when I looked at her thief abilities, I decided keeping Imoen was better, so goodbye Eldoth.
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#131300 - 02/17/06 08:24 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Well Schwab, I have Imoen, Branwen,, Jaheira and Khalid in my party. I lost Minsc back in the mines trying to get Mulahey. I tried so many times that I thought that sacrificing Minsc wasn't so bad. The thing is I don't have a mage in my party so I have no one to cast any good spells so I have to wade in with melee combat and since I'm not so strong, I lose a lot. I was thinking of starting over because I feel that I missed a lot along the way, but then I figured what the heck I'll just stay with it and hope that I get smarter along the way. I hate to admit, but I'm using the First Aid cheat (I need those healing potions) lol
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#131301 - 02/17/06 08:57 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Fil, it sounds like you should be saving your game more often so if someone dies you can just reload. Or, if someone does, you can go to a temple and pay to have them resurrected. They don't have to stay dead.

Minsc had a quest that he would have given you when you first met with him. If you read your journal, you will find that he wanted you to rescue a mage named Dynaheir. She's great. But so far you have a good solid party - you just need a mage to round it out. There are other fighters you can pick up, too, as you walk around.

The other thing you should do is get all of your party members to be proficient in ranged weapons like slings and bow and arrows. When you are cruising around in the country, go slowly. Often you can stop your party just when you see one enemy instead of running smack into a whole nest of them. As soon as you see one enemy, hit the space bar, tell all your party members to aim at that one enemy, then inch forward and kill the next one you see, and so on.

Melee combat is far too hard on your low level party and will always be a disaster for your mages and thieves. Stay back, used ranged weapons, and then move your fighters in for the kill only if you have to.
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#131302 - 02/17/06 09:12 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Fil, to help you with the battles, how are you controlling your party? I found that too much frantic clicking got me into more trouble than when I let the characters finish their moves. I learned to pause then I would click on (select) my character, click on my wepaon or spell, click on enemy target. Then repeat next character, weapon, target, and then cycle through all your party members - character - weapon (spell) - target. Then release the pause and give the party a chance to carry out the planned moves. If the battles is not going as planned just pause and try a different weapon (spell) or different target. I also found it worthwhile in some cases for all or several members to target the same enemy. If you start clicking after these given commands you are actually undoing your fight commands.

Also to save potions I would only drink during a battle if I got too unhealthy. After a battle I would prefer to use a heal spell or sleep if there is an opportunity. Another strategy is to save then sleep. If your sleep gets interrupted you can always reload until you don't get attacked. Getting attacked while sleeping is random and doesn't happen each time.

Hope this helps. luck

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#131303 - 02/17/06 11:45 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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To have a dead party member resurrected (Minsc in this case), you have to pick up all their armor & items, then head to a temple, like the one next to Beregost. The cost to resurrect is relative to your level, I think.

As Hagatha pointed out, Minsc joined your party on the proviso that you would help him on a quest to rescue Dynaheir from the gnoll stronghold, which is the zone to the far southwest of Nashkel. Do that first before going back to Nashkel, mainly because Minsc will leave your party if you don't do the quest in 10 days game time. Plus, you then get a mage in your party.

Or, forget Minsc and try to get Mulahey again, there is actually another mage in that very area you can pick up for your party after killing Mulahey.

Branwen is your cleric and should cast buffs like Bless and Chant, and she should be able to summon undead helpers, or at least use her Turn Undead ability to confuse the skellie army that Mulahey conjures. Jaheira can also heal, but as a Druid should also be casting Entangle and/or summoning animals or turning into one herself through her special abilities button. Khalid is your fighter so you fight up close with him and Imoen can shoot arrows from the back.

As Hagatha mentioned, ranged weapons are awesome, particularly in outdoor areas. I know that Jaheira and Branwen have missile skill, so they can hurl bullets with a sling. Imoen has her arrows, I'm not sure that Khalid has any bow skill, check his character sheet for that.

Rowan plays like I do, it's too time consuming to cast healing spells during combat, so have potions in everyone's quick item slots to drink and cast any healing spells needed after combat.

Okay, the Mulahey fight is tough, he IS the boss of Chapter 2 so don't feel bad about multiple attempts, I've been there. I suggest using Jaheira's Entangle spell on the kobolds he summons then concentrate on Mulahey, shoot arrows and/or bullets to interrupt his spellcasting while you and Khalid engage in melee combat.
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#131304 - 02/17/06 11:53 PM Re: Snowy day Baldur's Gate
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Hagatha, I guess I should have read my journal a little better and I could have picked up a mage. laugh I didn't know that you could have a party member resurrected but I'll do that in the future. I do save often but I just read Rowan's advice and I see that I've just been hacking away when I really shouldn't. I guess I'm just used to using a sword. In every RPG I've played so far I've never used a bow and arrow. I guess I'm going to have to get used to it. Rowan I'll take your advice and try to control my clicking finger. laugh Thanks to both of you for your help (I really need it)
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