Hi Pokey; Nah. I was missing the jump and winding up way down a total dead end. I finally jumped toward the right instead of head on and I made it. I am now at the point of the conveyor belt. (Been down it a couple of times. How nasty. nu2gaming

OK. I keep falling in the meat grinder. Is it really possible to jump to that broken catwalk before you get turned into hamburger? nu2gaming

Yes, you can. I fell into it once before I knew to jump, but had no problem after that and I jumped many times.

Pokey; I've jumped many times. I either miss the catwalk altogether or the **** thing collapses and dumps me in the grinder. nu2gaming

The catwalk does collapse when you jump on it but you should be able to crawl off of it.

The catwalk collapses, but once you jump you need to immediately move over to the right side as far into the corner of the platform as you can. That part of the platform doesn't collapse (although it tilts), and then you can just jump down once the rumbling stops.

Am I supposed to jump on the long part of the catwalk on the right or the short part on the left? nu2gaming

I'm at the point where you have to save Hoover. I have failed to kill Marsh numerous times. Do you have to kill him here or can you get him later? Do you have to have the rifle to kill him? I've tried the tommy gun and the shotgun. He walks away from both. I don't have the rifle. If I need it can I go back somewhere and find it? nu2gaming

You can't go back and get the rifle. I didn't have it either. You do get a chance to pick one up later. I used a revolver or the other handgun to get him and it took several tries. You only hit him enough for him to run out. I found it easier if I moved to the middle of the walkway.

Oh. I've hit him every time. I thought you had to kill him. So it's ok for him to run after you hit him? nu2gaming

If he left the area, you just need to rescue Hoover. Before that, he would always kill you when you climbed the ladder.

stay away from electrolysis!!! I'm not finding the vat control panel, unless it's the one in the room with the monstrosity. nu2gaming

It's in the room with the shoggoth. Down the stairs, but it is tricky getting past him. If you activate the right spot, there is a dialogue that helps you.

Yes, the Infamous Vat Control Panel. To get to it you have to go down the stairs to the right of the Tentacled One! Not a nice thought, I know....

If you're having trouble with this, here's how to avoid the brute, more or less:

When you regain control of Jack, run into the room to the right and crouch behind the crates. As soon as Jack says he should get going, stand up and walk to the stairs on the right and go down. Never mind, I know it's freaky, but if you don't stop for even a second you will get to the end of the catwalk. Go down the ladder. DOn't stop -- move to the end of the lower walkway and up the ladder at tyhe end. Keep going until you get to the end of that catwalk and then crouch in the very right hand corner. The Tentacled One will not reach you there and you can regain sanity and heal. If you've just kept moving you should get to this point with no damage at all.

The Vat Control Panel is there, and it is very hard to activate it without getting badly injured. You have to move forward towards the panel but not close enough for the tentacle to reach you, and then when the tentacle withdraws rush to the front of the panel and hit the button. It's not that easy, and in the end I had to settle for Jack being "almost dead" and used up a lot of medical supplies. But once you've done this bit the rest of this section is not so hard.

hagatha; as usual you are my saving angel. I can't tell you how many times I've returned to a previous save spot because I didn't know how to get past him. I was told that once you get past him/it you were supposed to run across the catwalk to a save spot. I'm not finding it. I've been to the office and gotten the fuse but when a come out of the office guess who is blocking the way? Am I taking too long to get the fuse? I'm not finding another exit from the office so this has to be it. nu2gaming