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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800441
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While the announcement isn't GK4, doing that isn't entirely up to just her. She doesn't own the rights. And as she says in this Gamespot interview:

"I'm hopeful that we have our own studio and we can show some success, that we'll be able to talk to them about getting the rights to it to do a Gabriel Knight 4."

So supporting the new studio can only make things look even better for getting a GK4 someday! smile

Plus, new adventures from Jane, her finally working independently, doing what she wants to do in her games? Heck yes! Sign me up! (Well, actually, I already signed up yesterday smile )

And no, it's not a Double Fine hit, but that's really akin to saying 'well, she didn't win the lottery, I dunno...' She's made in one day more than what we made in 44 days for Cognition!


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800461
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I'm contributing first, in the hope of a GK4 and second, of a Jane Jensen game of the same caliber but not on the order of Gray Matter or a sequel thereto.

I wonder what sizes the contributions are? That would give some idea of the number of players/buyers there are for adventure games although some multiplier would have to included to account for gamers willing to buy but not contribute.

Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800464
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8dognight, you can scroll down the kickstarter page and see how many people gave a certain amount of money.

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: Tomer] #800477
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Originally Posted By: Tomer

...and you on the other hand take the risk by paying before the game is made but trusting the creator.


I paid Tim Shafer beforehand because, among other things, I trust him not to hand me a game where the creator has used the cheap, comic book cop-out otherwise known as a "graphic novel look and feel". I don't trust Jane Jensen not to do that. She's a fine writer but she doesn't show a lot of discernment in how her games are presented, from that pathetic ham that played Gabe in GK2, to the horrible 3D in GK3 and the awful comic book graphics interspersed in Grey Matter. I realize a lot of people don't care what the game looks like if it comes from Ms. Jensen, in fact I may be out in the field alone, but if I'm going to spend hours staring at a screen and playing a game, I want to look at something I can stomach and the two games she's offering that show the most promise of being chosen aren't telling me that her discernment has gotten any better.

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800480
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You are tough! Do you like green eggs with that ham? laugh

Err, which photorealistic game designed by Tim Schafer are you basing your opinions on?

Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: traveler] #800501
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Originally Posted By: traveler


I paid Tim Shafer beforehand because, among other things, I trust him not to hand me a game where the creator has used the cheap, comic book cop-out otherwise known as a "graphic novel look and feel". I don't trust Jane Jensen not to do that. She's a fine writer but she doesn't show a lot of discernment in how her games are presented, from that pathetic ham that played Gabe in GK2, to the horrible 3D in GK3 and the awful comic book graphics interspersed in Grey Matter. I realize a lot of people don't care what the game looks like if it comes from Ms. Jensen, in fact I may be out in the field alone, but if I'm going to spend hours staring at a screen and playing a game, I want to look at something I can stomach and the two games she's offering that show the most promise of being chosen aren't telling me that her discernment has gotten any better.

Gil.


She's posted more details on the stories & styles of GM2 and Moebius on the KS page. But, I'll again refer to that Gamespot interview, where she says one reason for doing this, starting her own studio, is wanting more direct control on the games as they're made and put together, citing GM's end result as a primary example.

But I can only imagine back in the day at Sierra, there were general movements to make games in the style that was popular at the time, be it FMV or 3D, and sadly we all know how bad early 3D stuff looked.

I know I'm biased, but I think of it as a chance for the great stories to be told in the way the author wants them told at last.


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800513
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Isn't Gabe supposed to be a sort of ham?:)
And besides, I personally liked both GK2's actros (with what adventure can you even compare this game to?!), and GK3's graphics, although I admit, it was far from perfect. However, it allowed a very intimate interaction with the game.
But most of all - I gave her my money because she is the brain of my most beloved games (with the Mysts, as hard as it is to compare, right next to them)

I just wish enough people open up their hearts and wallets!

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: Becky] #800583
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Originally Posted By: Becky
You are tough! Do you like green eggs with that ham? laugh


Oh, jeez, I hate to admit this but I've never read Dr. Seuss. I've seen the Grinch, though, and I'll take him over a wimpy Who any day. grin

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Err, which photorealistic game designed by Tim Schafer are you basing your opinions on?


Hm? I said I trust Tim not to give me a game with lousy comic book graphics, nothing about photorealism.

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800584
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Also, re: the thread's subject line, it's JensEn, not JensOn smile


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800585
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Thanks, it's fixed. Usually people PM info like that. wink


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800685
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A new Jane Jensen adventure? A good idea called "Community Supported Games"? Yes, Yes, Yes!!! Please count Liz Allaire and me in (though she's got no credit card, so I'll back in her name).

Even if the Moebius and Gray Matter 2 projects are quite appealing, I'll vote for the Anglophile Adventure... Long live Jane Austen & Jensen!

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800709
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I'm already supporting 4 games on Kickstarter.


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800785
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Can only vote for GK4 wave

Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #800827
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Great to see that the pledges keep going up. woot

All of the descriptions of the games she is proposing sound so good, I don't know which one to vote for. smile It sounds like she is really listening to feedback from fans with the old style choice between two difficulties and the option for getting a big box with all games on DVD. (Wish I could afford that one. grin ) Yes, I would like a new Gabriel Knight, but I would be happy with any new game Jane puts out. Much like reading a book by one's favorite author. Yes, some games may be better than others, but they are all good, quality games.

Personally I liked the GK sequels better than the original, especially the second one. The stories in those games stood out for me more, which is not saying a lot, since they were all outstanding. grin And while Gray Matter was my least favorite of her games, it was still better than most games I've played. If this is her "worst" game, I'd say she's doing pretty well. wink

Josue, Anglophile Adventure does sound good, doesn't it? It would be something different, and I love period pieces. I may end up voting for that one. But then I read the description for Gray Matter 2 and the one for Moebius, and I get confused again. lol

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: GuybrushThreepwood] #801037
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Originally Posted By: GuybrushThreepwood
I'm already supporting 4 games on Kickstarter.


It is addicting, isn't it? smile


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801053
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Ive just pledged. I am looking forward to a GK type game from Jane. Hope she gets all the money she needs for it.


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801101
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Just upped my pledge from $30 to $50. Still not as much as I would like to give, but that's about as much as I can afford right now. At least it's a lot better than what I could have done a few months ago. smile


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801104
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The 50$ Prize is much more tempting anyway :-)


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801107
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Yes, it is. smile


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801248
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I don't really see where tne next Gabriel Knight story could go, unless it was like an Indiana Jones Crystal Skull type alien origins story? Once the saga went down the road of Christ bloodline to me it became a finale which would be hard to come back from with another adventure which would kind of seem trivial in comparison. It's also a big risk to rejuvenate old characters, it might end up being disappointing like so many movie sequels and remakes end up. Tim Curry was so memorable as the voice of Gabe, what if he wasn't involved in a new story - disaster!


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Well, Venus, I like all 3 concepts... it's only that the Anglophile thingie intrigues me more, 'cause I've never played an adventure set in a jane-austen-esque world.

I mean... there are some topics that seem to come natural to adventure, others that don't. How many pirate graphic adventure's have been made?

(Of course, I'll play Captain Morgane 'cause it's Steve Ince and it looks gorgeous. However, if he made me choose between a pirate adventure and one set in the Rwanda War, I'd go for 2nd one no doubt)

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I, too, have sent funds to some of the KickStarter projects - but there are getting to be way too many of them for me, now woozy


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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801482
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Well, you guys have to think about the fact that all these funds will spare you spending these amounts or even higher ones on games you would otherwise buy:)


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I love your cockeyed logic, Tomer. <g>

Oh, wait, you meant we'd buy these games anyway. Here I was thinking you meant it would relieve us of having the funds to buy something like Testament or The Lost Chronicles of Zerzura.
Darn right about that! <g>

Gil.

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Re: Jane Jensen Announces New Studio Pinkerton Road Kickstarter Campaign [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #801528
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$50 not tempting to me, because that works out to $25 a game, and I never pay that.


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