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#1115245 - 06/25/17 02:58 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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I played the Director's Cut. I don't really remember if I had any bugs but the dead end kind of ruined the game for me. When I got back where I needed to be (with the help of the walkthrough) I tried to play without it but found I was leery of getting in a dead end again. Took my interest away from the game some. Towards the end I used the walkthrough again.

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#1115253 - 06/25/17 03:43 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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***Mr. Bill's walkthrough*** for the Director's Cut says
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Due to the many changes that were made, this new version of Jack Orlando contains a potential dead end that traps nearly everyone. It is especially important to save just before meeting with a man by the name of August Bellinger (and do not save over it), so that you can go back to that save if you find yourself at the dead end.

and more specifically about the dead end, from ***the web archive of the JA review***
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The potential dead end occurs if the player allows Bellinger to be killed before giving the vase to the flower lady and receiving the manuscript in return. Because after Bellinger is killed, the flower lady disappears, never to return. As a result, the guard never appears at the Casino entrance and so you can't ever enter the Casino.

I've only played the older Hungarian/English version (voices were in English) from Playing Games Interactive. I liked the beginning of the game, but had trouble later on and ended up using a walkthrough to finish.

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#1115288 - 06/25/17 10:23 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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Yes, the flower lady disappeared on me before I even found the vase.

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#1115367 - 06/26/17 11:34 AM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: Jenny100]
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It is such a long time ago I played the game so I'm not sure I did things in the wrong order in The Director's Cut to result in a dead end but at the time, if so, I probably just reloaded a previous save & took heed of a walkthrough. No, it's not very acceptable within any game for you to have to do that just because you did something in the wrong order but I know it's not the only game I've come across that's guilty of that 'bug'!

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#1115371 - 06/26/17 11:53 AM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: chrissie]
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Originally Posted By: chrissie
Hi Mad, I had to go back to nolalou's post to see that her review was based on Topware's publication which would have been released in 1997 which as far as I can glean was for Dos & windows 1995. I didn't even have a PC then! so the version I have 'The Director's Cut' was an enhanced one published by Jowood for later versions of windows in 2001. So I guess that perhaps the bugs had been ironed out by then? & you played the original? smile


The first time I played the game was on my Win95 machine so I guess it must have been the original think

The version I have now is the DotEmu release which I was able to burn to disk smile
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#1115384 - 06/26/17 01:31 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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It's also possible you didn't run into the bug, chrissie.
The archived JA review says
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Yet, in an oversight that should have been corrected in the Director's Cut, there is one puzzle which, if solved out-of-order, could possibly prohibit the player from finishing the game! While I personally did not undergo this misfortune, our good friend Mr. Bill of Mr. Bill's Adventureland did...

So the JA reviewer didn't run into the dead end either, and whether you get the dead end depends on what order you do the puzzles.

The worst game I know of for dead ends was Hitchcock: The Final Cut from 2001. I think it was gatorlaw who found 5 dead ends in that game.

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#1115418 - 06/26/17 08:34 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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Huh. I never finished playing Hitchcock: The Final Cut because I was playing it on my XP machine that broke down. I have a different working XP now and thought about trying to play it again but 5 dead ends doesn't sound very promising! Plenty of other games to play.

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#1115421 - 06/26/17 08:56 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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Tally Ho mentions one dead end and how to avoid it in his ***walkthrough for Hitchcock***
Originally Posted By: TallyHo
Reports from players indicate that if you save and quit between the pool and the library (you can do them in either order) you can create a dead-end. Be sure to finish this chapter before you quit for the night, or you'll have to re-do it.

There doesn't seem to be an "official" Gameboomers review for Hitchcock, but there is more than one user review ***here***

Bryansmom gave some general advice for avoiding the dead ends:
Originally Posted By: Bryansmom
My advice for anyone playing this game is to make a save at the beginning of each chapter and don't alter that save, because dead ends come when you have saved the game at certain points during gameplay instead of playing straight through.


So if you decide to play it, keep Bryansmom's advice in mind. It sounds like good general advice that might keep you from having to depend on a walkthrough to avoid potential dead ends.

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#1115424 - 06/26/17 09:13 PM Re: Jack Orlando, A Cinematic Adventure [Re: nolalou]
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Thanks Jenny. Could be I had hit a dead end and didn't even know it yet at the time my computer broke down.

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