Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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Thank you! I will check it out.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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12/23/15 10:41 PM
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Thank you again. That page helped quite a bit. The mouse is still too wobbly for my taste, but I think I can work around it. I appreciate your help! ;)
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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12/24/15 04:11 PM
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I'm glad it is working better. Can you adjust your mouse sensitivity through your mouse software?
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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12/27/15 12:02 PM
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I am embarrassed to admit that I have no idea if there is or isn't "mouse software". Can you explain what you mean? Is that in the game or in my PC?
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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12/27/15 12:10 PM
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Unless you got yourself a fancy mouse and installed software for it, the closest you have to "mouse software" is the mouse settings in Control Panel. http://www.wikihow.com/Adjust-a-Mouse-in-Windows-7But those basic settings won't help if the problem is jitter or floatiness. Floatiness is usually due to the video card being too slow or having video drivers the game doesn't like.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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I am using a NVIDIA GeForce Gt 630. Is that a problem? If it is, what should I get? Thank you!
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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01/21/16 06:14 PM
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Wow, I'm surprised you've been able to play this at all with that low end video card! It would be good to know what your processor is and how much RAM you have too. Recommended system requirements are:
Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required) Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent 8 GB RAM 30 GB free HDD space NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
And minimum requirements are:
Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required) Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent 8 GB RAM 30 GB free HDD space NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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01/21/16 07:19 PM
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Yup, the poor defenseless mouse!
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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01/21/16 11:02 PM
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AMD Fx (tm)6120 6-core Processor 3.50 GHz Installed Memory RAM 8.00 GB 64 bit Operating System, x64 based processor
Windows 10 Home
Is this sufficient if I get a new graphics card as your recommendation above?
I really appreciate this help. I have been looking forward to playing this game for so long! I absolutely wore out Fallout 3 and up to now that is my favorite game.
Thank you again for your help!
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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01/21/16 11:55 PM
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Someone else will have to advise you on your processor as I don't know much about AMDs.
If we can assume this is a desktop, we'd also have to know the wattage of your power supply which will most likely have to be upgraded if you have a better video card installed.
I'm always amazed at the manufacturers that advertise these "ultimate gaming machines" and then put a low end video card in it.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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01/22/16 11:44 AM
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I happened to run across some benchmarks comparing your AMD CPU against a 4670 Core i5 and the AMD is ranked way below the Core i5. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-6120-Six-Core-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4670K/m7026vs1538So even if you upgrade your video card, your CPU may still be a bottleneck for this game. But this is sort of out of my league, so I'll let Jenny or Inland try to help you out!
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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01/22/16 12:36 PM
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It would be better to compare Athleen's AMD with the requirements for AMD (AMD Phenom II X4 945) instead of to Core i5. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-6120-Six-Core-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-945/m7026vsm101Going by the benchmark site, Athleen's processor looks only a little better than the minimum requirement. However benchmarks are only an approximation of real world performance, and actual performance in a particular game could be either better or worse. Compared to the AMD FX-9590 that is recommended for AMD processor, the FX-6120 looks like this http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-6120-Six-Core-vs-AMD-FX-9590/m7026vs1812Athleen, you could probably get Fallout 4 playing acceptably if you got a good video card (the recommended or better, not the minimum) -- and assuming your computer is capable of accepting the new card -- a higher wattage power supply and extra case fans can be added if necessary, but if the case is too small or for some other reason is not upgradable, you won't be able to add the new card. The big question is whether you are going to want to play similar games in the future, which would probably require a faster processor. There's not much point buying an expensive video card if your processor will be too slow for the games you want to play before next year. So is Fallout 4 a special game and the only action/RPG-type game you're going to want to play for the next 3 years or so? or are you going to want to play other action or RPG games that will undoubtedly have higher requirements? It's no fun playing on a sluggish computer, so it might be worth your while to get a new gaming-oriented computer if you are an action/RPG fan.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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There you go, Atheen! Jenny's info is what you need...
And as a reference point to what Jenny said, I checked Newegg and the recommended video card for this game (Radeon R9 290X 4GB) costs roughly $300 - $350. And that's before you determine whether you need a power supply upgrade etc.
A new actual gaming computer might be a better option.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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A lot to think about here! I have been playing F4 with the only issue the floating mouse cursor. Do the manufacturers think you buy a new PC with every new edition of a game? I guess what they think doesn't matter but I'm a bit bummed to think it might cost me hundreds of dollars to play an expensive game that I've already paid for! At least I know my options and I am so grateful for your help. I don't think I've ever NOT gotten good info and help from Gameboomers.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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I just upgraded from Windows 8.2 to Windows 10 and am now completely unable to play this game. I am thinking about how to quit gaming altogether. Very discouraged and feeling manipulated by game makers.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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Now I have more problems. I upgraded to Win 10 just last night and today I find that NONE of my games run well. There seems to be a 'rainbow' of bright colors around each object. Is there some was to correct this?
Thank you!
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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Game makers are giving customers the games they want with increasingly better graphics and demands on computers. Adventure gaming is no different. Some people have gone to console gaming to avoid having to make upgrades every time the new more and more demanding games come out. This is why it's SO important to read the system requirement specs to be sure your computer is capable of playing a new game before you buy it.
When you have a lower end computer like you do, it is inevitable that the newest games aren't going to play on it. When I last rebuilt my computer, I installed the best video card and CPU I could afford and it should work for me for a good long time yet. But the time will come when I will also need to upgrade if I want to continue playing new games on the PC.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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Now I have more problems. I upgraded to Win 10 just last night and today I find that NONE of my games run well. There seems to be a 'rainbow' of bright colors around each object. Is there some was to correct this?
Thank you! Do you have the most current video drivers for your video card? I'm no expert, but that would be my first thought.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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I suspect you need to update your video card drivers as Marian said. Go to the manufacturer's website and download from there.
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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Game makers are giving customers the games they want with increasingly better graphics and demands on computers. I'd say they're giving the customers who are willing to shell out gobs of money what those particular customers want. Adventure games typically have lower requirements than RPG's and action games. They're not standing still, but you can usually get away with not purchasing a new computer as often if you stick to adventure and casual games. The video card will always be of prime importance and the video card is the first thing you should look at if you're trying to decide if a computer is a "gaming" computer or not. Now I have more problems. I upgraded to Win 10 just last night and today I find that NONE of my games run well. Sounds like a downgrade to me. You could shop around for new drivers, which may or may not work. Or you could try to revert to your previous version of Windows. http://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how-to-uninstall-windows-10-and-downgrade-to-windows-7-or-8.1/A newer version of Windows won't ever make your computer's internal hardware any better than it is though. It's not going to make your video card or processor any faster. Do you have the most current video drivers for your video card?
I'm no expert, but that would be my first thought. Of course if you find a version of the drivers that works better than what you have, Windows 10 will promptly replace the working version with the version it thinks is best. How-To-Geek has some suggestions for preventing that http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/
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Re: Fallout 4 spacey mouse?
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I am also playing this on an under spec machine and I was getting the mouse lag (even after turning off Mouse Acceleration) and had to use the many .ini file tweaks you can find around the internet, like turning off godrays and shadows etc (try those), but the biggest boost to framerate and game smoothness (and so, mouse lag) for me was the Fallout 4 Texture Optimisation Project mod on Nexus. There are still a few places in FO4 that remain a bit sluggish and I would imagine will remain so till Bethesda start doing a few optimisation passes but this was a great help. One very strange thing with FO4 is that indoor locations are a lot more sluggish than outdoors. Usually the opposite is the case as their is far less to render indoors and the view distances are a lot shorter. You can also use this Configuration Tool if you dont want to mess with the .ini files directly http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/102/?Texture Optimisation Project http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/978/?
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