I have never tried it, but fwiw: The tricky part of this has always been that the drugs (to this point anyway) have to cross the blood-brain barrier and thus, tend to cause varying amounts of sedation plus atropine-like side effects (dry mouth etc.)

Currently, drugs that help motion sickness with less sedation:

Cinnarizine (Stugeron) may be the most effective with least sedation, but isn't available in the US.
Dimenhydrinate (Dramamine, Gravol, Driminate)
Meclizine (Bonine, Bonamine, Antivert, Postafen, and Sea Legs)
Cyclizine ( Marezine, Bonine For Kids, Cyclivert)



Actually, I'm on a mission to finally complete all the Rhem games, a subject that I think is dear to your heart! And I still have backlog of unplayed true point and clickers.

If I could count on being able to play these newer Myst-like games without nausea, I'd go right out and get a suitab

I'm not really a fan of motion sickness pills. I actually don't do well with most meds. I have heard some have been helped by it, though.

Same here. There are always side effects, and the only medications that actually work to reduce nausea from simulated 3D movement in games also knock me out so much I want nothing more than a nap. Not a desirable result when your original intention was to play a game.


Well you're all set then.
Do you still have those old laptops to play on?

Yup, the whole mess of them: Win98, WinXP, Win7, various shapes and sizes.

I have the same issues with the drugs. One thing is sure: they don't help with puzzle-solving!

SNAP !! SirDave

Although my machines are PC's and not Laptops

And I had a "home made" Win95 one, too, until a few years ago when it sadly died on me

[Don't bother with drugs at all however, unless they are for life threatening conditions.]

I started Eyes of Ara some time ago, but ran out of playing time. I'd like to finish that before trying Quern.

Eyes of Ara is 3D, but is point-and-click, so as long as I pan slowly and look away from the screen during transitions I can cope with it.

I have that game in my "unplayed" stack, Jenny100

Do you like it

I'd forgotten what Eyes of Ara was like. There is some point-and-click, but mostly it seems to be click-and-drag or grab-and-drag, which is awkward. To turn around you sometimes have to grab-and-drag 3 or 4 times. In some areas you can put your cursor at the edge of the screen and it will pan, but in other areas it won't. It's easy to miss things because they can be above or below the viewing area, and it's such a pain to pan up and down.

Puzzles seem OK but I'm having object disappear. I collected a glowing blue ball that looked important, which was kept on a separate inventory list you see on the pause screen. The glowing blue ball is gone now. I don't know when it disappeared. It was 1 of 2, but now I have 0 of 2. I don't know if it's important to finishing the game, but why bother having the player collect those things if they're just going to disappear like that?

Oh, dear. Another game with weird navigation and disappearing inventory items as well
I can see it not shooting up to the top of my stack then

Quern navigation can be quite awkward for me because I use a very old fashioned mouse and it's really NOT suitable

I don't think those particular disappearing items are necessary to finish the game, but it's still annoying to have them disappear after the game makes such a fuss over you finding them -- like having the blue ball hover at the top of the screen for several seconds. Then it's gone when you enter the next game area, maybe before.

I don't know what Quern navigation is like yet, but I think click-and-drag is a pain in the butte. I keep trying to tap the arrow keys or W/S out of habit to pan incrementally up or down, which would work in most 3D games. But no, you have to go through the rigmarole of click-and-grab-and-pull-down. Such a lot of fuss for something that should be so simple. I'd prefer to be able to switch between central-cursor-panning and a still screen you can move the mouse around, the way you could in Myst: Exile.

The puzzles are mostly fine, and I like the idea of exploring a castle, but I don't like the interface.

I played "Eyes of ARA" and liked it right up until the end. I was playing over Halloween and there suddenly appeared all kinds of clever and witty Halloween decorations which were a really fun bonus. However, my computer was a bit shy of necessities and therefor gameplay was often a fight. Worse, when I got to the end I discovered I had failed to find two of the various items I was collecting and couldn't actually finish the last bit. Worse, there was no way to learn what exactly I had NOT found and where I had not found it. So I quit. The gameplay problem was mine, but it was never made clear until the end that I had to find all the items nor was it clear how many there were. Beautiful and huge game,but I was crushed at the end.

Jenny - I can't actually remember what the blue balls are for but inventory items do change depending on what section of the game you are in. If you go back to a prior section, things that were there before will be there again.

I also did not have everything at the end so there was something(s) I was not able to access. I did not like that.

I don't think the blue balls were a problem. I found more.
At first I thought the yellow balls that went into regular inventory were a problem when they disappeared, but I found more of those too.

Apparently the things that went into the 2nd inventory, like figurines, coins, blue balls, paintings, and photos are used to open an extra room near the end. I'm missing a lot of those. There's a room near the end where they've been collected, and a doorway in that room that I don't think opens until you find everything. I'm also missing some gargoyle eyes on the arched door upstairs. I assume I need them all to get into that room.

I seem to be missing a couple of wheel-like items necessary to finish.
I thought I had at least one of them, but it disappeared when I went into another area.
I'll have to go back and search.

I found a Guide at Steam Forums.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=727315958
It has item lists, so maybe it will help me find some of the items I'm missing.

EDIT --

Found a few more objects. I think one of the photographs didn't register as picked up.

Found another written walkthrough here
http://www.evermynd.com/walkthroughs/eyesofara.html

I was very excited today to see that the developers of Quern are making a new game called Dimhaven Enigmas. No release date yet but I already put it on the wishlist!

Oldbroad...thank you so much for this announcement...I had no idea and I am excited too as Quern was one of my most favorite plays. Hope they aren't too early in the development as I am selfish and want to play now

Dimhaven Enigmas

This is good to hear oldbroad. Quern was one of our favorites. Lengthy game with very good integrated puzzles and nice story. Will definately keep both eyes on this one. I am afraid its gonna be awhile. "Dimhaven is in early development." Thanks for the link GreyFuss. Like you we are ready to play it

Thank you oldbroad