Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Mazes, just mazes.
Everything can potentially be a good gaming experience if done well.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Oh mannnnn! I love the cut scenes. What bores me personally would be the game as a whole if it doesn't capture my interest. <img border="0" alt="[yawn]" title="" src="graemlins/yawn.gif" /> "I look to like....if liking looks be..." Shakespeare
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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That's quite a list, Jenny100, and yet I've heard every one of those points being griped about at one time or another.
Having to complete an arcade or card game sequence in order to move on is aggravating rather than boring for me. I'm engaged in the action and getting tenser by the minute, especially when I'm losing! Frequent dying in a game also gets me very uptight.
I think long intro. scenes that can't be skipped and long load times can be rather mind numbing.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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I get bored when I already figured out what to do and it won't let you because you haven't talked to someone or been somewhere that would have given you a clue to do exactly what you were trying to do in the first place.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Traipsing back and forth across a large gameworld hunting for new inventory or new conversations, even though you know they'd be triggered by your last action?
This soured more than one game for me that otherwise was fun.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Little or no interaction with the game environment? Jack the Ripper comes to mind. I thought the whole game was kinda boring till the end. I wanted to click on everything I saw on the streets and in the rooms. I couldnt get anything except what was important to the game. I guess I like a good pixel hunt and carrying inventory.(except ladders)
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Little or no interaction or conversation with characters. I have no interest in Myst or the inumerable clones. I like conversations. I like showing everything in my inventory to characters and getting a funny response.
I like sudden, strange deaths, but then I started adventuring with Sierra's Space Quests. So walking around a jungle maze in which absolutely nothing happening, in Beyond Atlantis had me bored almost to tears.
Action and timed sequences don't bore me, they make me angry.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Hi I think practically everything boring has been covered already but it is somehow really satisfying to know that loads of other people besides me get bored by similar stuff
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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As you said, Jenny, we're all different, but I found several of those items you listed boring, especially games where you wander around looking for stuff that was triggered by something else, except you don't have a clue what or where it is.
One thing that wasn't mentioned: games whose characters are hard to understand, and there are no subtitles...
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! OMG! I have played so MANY of those! I actually find those types of inventory puzzles pretty comical!
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What bores ME the most are the following:
1. Long load times...yuk...they destroy the immersiveness too (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets comes to mind)
2. Repetitive conversations that you CANNOT skip through if you've heard them before, and characters that repeat themselves word for word TOO MUCH (it's okay once or twice, but EVERY time you talk to them??) This is the case in so MANY games that no one particular comes to mind. It's a tolerable fault, but a bit annoying at times.
3. Gameplay that is SO open-ended that you have no sense of direction or purpose...I don't like just wandering around wondering what to do next (RIVEN comes to mind)...for ME, THIS one is the WORST...I WANT A SENSE OF PURPOSE, dang it!!!
4. Myst and Myst clones (EXILE being the exception)
5. Puzzles that require a degree in bio-physics or space engineering...I am NOT, nor will I ever BE, a rocket scentist...so (OBSIDIAN and SCHIZM come to mind) please keep it at a bachelor's degree level or less (for THIS adventure/rpg'er anyway)
6. Characters that you control, but that have one gait...S-L-O-W...all characters should be able to run!
7. A clumsy and awkward interface (this will usually bore me so in the length of TIME it takes to figure it OUT...I'll usually just say the heck with it and uninstall the game)
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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To generalize, I find the most boring everything, what developers put into the game for the purpose of making the gameplay longer.
You will immediately know it, when you meet it because you usually lose the sense of immersion. It can be puzzle, it can be uninspiring maze, it can be an action scene. I love all of the previous mentioned as long as I feel, that they are integrated in the game. But when I have to walk 10000 screens from point B back to point A, even after I was in A million times and the game didn't allow me to pick item C until I really get to point B where person D tells me to pick C in A I immediately know how it was in developing process.
Writer 1: So I think our game is ready. Programmer: It's ready and implemented. Beta tester: I needed 7.5 hours to finish the game. Programmer: hmmm, we don't have time to invent more puzzles, so what if we just move some triggers far away so player has to walk a really long way. Writer: Ah, this is great idea. Graphic Artist: Oh yes, and they will look at my beautiful graphic again and again and again... mwahahahaha Writer: So the most distant places are A and B so let's move the item C from B back to A Programmer: Ok, back to work. Team leader: And don't forget to take out the map from the game. We don't want them to easily transport from one place to another. Programmer: Ok.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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I knew that's what was happening - Let's go get them and smack on them for a while I suppose what bores me is awkward interfaced puzzles, inordinate pixel hunts or hot spots right on top of each other which causes endless searching. I like reading if it can be done when you like - as in put the document or a transcript of it in your inventory - or if it is very hint/plot info laden. If it is one long dissertation to wade through - uhmmm I'll wait for the movie. I get bored if there are no people at all or at least "sense of people" in a game. In DarkFall there were no tangible people but lots of delectible voices and characters. In Rhem I found myself running after that guy yelling but "Wait!! Who can I hang out with if you leave....come back!!!"
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Even in Riven and Shivers, walking, walking, walking to do a task got to me. Titantic had the best idea, a jump map. You didn't have to walk the entire ship, you just went to the map and the map put you where you wanted to be. ;( Any other games like that? ~Dee
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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[kidding mode on] Well, there you are. Everybody hates adventure games. No wonder they don't sell. Let's all go play checkers. [off]
Seriously now, if you were a developer reading this thread, what would you do?
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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I'm bored by having to go back and forth through forty-eleven screens where nothing happens to get from point A to point B. By really unlikely inventory puzzles--stuff that you'd NEVER do in real life, that has you randomly combining and/or trying inventory until something works. By repetetive, tedious conversations with characters who are supposed to be amusing but are just annoying. Originally posted by esube: [kidding mode on] Well, there you are. Everybody hates adventure games. No wonder they don't sell. Let's all go play checkers. [off]
Seriously now, if you were a developer reading this thread, what would you do? Well, I personally would say, "Gee, here are a lot of dedicated gamers giving useful critique. Most of what I'm hearing is that people are bored by pointless game-extenders and unnecessary repetition. Maybe I can't make a game that will please everyone, but I can work on eliminating that aspect." WW
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Well I have not been gaming long but ...... I don't like annoying and difficult interfaces like the one in ROTS-- I don't like having to wander around and around and around in places I have already been just to see 'if' something I have done somewhere else has triggered something. Slider puzzles--life long yuk yuk yuk ( The more interaction with the environment, the better Cut scenes that contain info I need, but don't repeat--phones and doorbells do ring, dogs bark, kids call--- Cut scenes that can't be skipped after I have seen them 1 time-- <img border="0" alt=" " title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" /> But I love adventuring, so I'll just have to relax and enjoy.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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"Louvre: The Final Curse" (aka "The Messenger") also had a map which you could jump on. A bug in that was that you could jump to areas you couldn't walk to.
Much as I enjoyed "Return to Zork" I found myself walking my socks off.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Boring is walking about with No clue and nothing pretty to look at... In Myst for example, you Knew you had to find coloured pages in each age, so there was a goal. Listening to repeated conversations bores me stupid, and pixel hunts!!
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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I forgot---Pixel hunts--those are the absolute pits!!! But I love conversations and backstory, and reading material, etc that deepens the story---anything that pulls me in
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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WW said: I love those magical numbers!
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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I'm not sure what's the fine line between boredom and frustration is. I usually get frustrated in pixel hunting than being bored. 3D games created a 'item in the dark corner phonomina' that makes me pull my hair. Bugs can sometimes be funny sometimes but they can be very~ bad~.
Bored... I guess having scarce gameplay creates boredom. Some lesser 'interactive' (movie, novel, etc) games seem to have scarce gameplay.
Oh, I remeber. The "Hit Enter a Thousand Times" Some games suck up a lot of gameplay time by making the players hit enter or spacebar button constantly. I don't mind long conversations but hours of gameplayplay only pressing enter really bores me. The "None-Entertaining Level Enhancement" in RPGs can be a drag too. "Extreme Screen Scanning" can be boring too. It means clicking everything one the screen in a manner simmilar to old dot-matrix printers. The clicking sound of the mouse almost makes me feel like I'm a dot-matrix printer.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Riven & Myst(s) have the lightning bolt to zap you past the long walks once you have been thru the area once, that really helps. A lot us have used the words frustrated, annoying, aggravating, drives me nuts, make me angry, etc.... so being bored is surely not the worst feeling to have, just the best excuse to dump the game. My worst is sudden death or dead ends(game over), just drives me up the wall.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Conatantly moving back and forth between sites the long long way just to get anything done. Oh how I love games with maps that speeds this along.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Lady K -- welcome to my peculiar world of idiom. another one that may amuse you is "everyone and his hamster..." as in, "I get bored in a game when I have to go back and talk to everyone and his hamster for the forty-eleventh time in the hopes that SOMEONE will FINALLY say something different that will trigger the next puzzle." WW
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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WW, We usually say "everyone and his mother-in-law," but I like yours better!
I often wrestle with my demons, but sometimes we just cuddle.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Having to go back and listen to the same conversation over and over or back to places I've already been 2 or 3 times. For ex. I just started Outcast and before I finally figured out how to save had to do the beginning 3 times! AAARGH!
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Hmmm. These come to mind: Traveling hindrances - not having the lightning bolt to zap me along past terrain I've already been on, or not having a jump map. Switching disks - aaarggghhh! Also, sometimes I come up with plausible, logical solutions that don't work because they're not in keeping with what the gamemaker(s) had in mind. Oh, yes - mazes (what's the purpose there?), and timed Anything. And pretty much all the above (what everyone else said).
I'm pretty outclassed by the gamers here, so I find myself having a difficult time elucidating on all the annoyances from past games. I tend to forget the details, but I do remember that they happen... something that causes me to think twice before buying other potential glitchy games.
But then..... BAAGS!!! And all is forgotten, and I'm once again 'back in the game', bugs and all.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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As I read this thread, I really thought that the term boring was not really applicable to many of the postings, nor is it to me. I can't really say that I have been bored by any game that I have played, though I have any number of times been annoyed, even angry at some of the characteristics described in the thread. One of my little irritations, which probably doesn't bother most players, is with games that when you aim in a particular direction, e.g. down a hall (particularly in a maze), it will move you ahead and then turn you to R or L when you arrive. If I head somewhere, that's where I want to go! When I arrive, then let me turn R or L.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Originally posted by Advpuzlov: As I read this thread, I really thought that the term [b]boring was not really applicable to many of the postings, nor is it to me. I can't really say that I have been bored by any game that I have played... [/b] oh, I can assure you I have truly been bored. I particularly found _The Omega Stone_ to be stultifying--all those miles over caverns. All that going back and forth and back and forth. *Snore* But anyway, I've experienced lots of moments in games where my main reaction was, "blah blah blah." That might be followed by the iritation of "just get on with it!" but the initial reaction is boredom. WW
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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Sound puzzles, where I have to listen really, really closely to the sounds on my cheap, tiny speakers. I hate them. I stopped playing Schizm when I had to figure out the priest in the temple. I know its a part of the game but I just dont like them.
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Re: What bores you the most in games?
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to GB blackfurie, Sound puzzles don't faze me, but mazes do!!
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