GAMEBOOMERS provides you with all the latest PC adventure computer games information, forum, walkthroughs, reviews and news.

GB Reviews

Latest & Upcoming Adventure Games

GB Annual Game Lists

GB Interviews

BAAGS

GB @ acebook

About Us

Walkthroughs

free games galore

Game Publishers & Developers

World of Adventure

Patches

GB @ witter

GameBoomers Store

Print Thread
Sandbox program recommendations #1230834
10/14/20 05:12 PM
10/14/20 05:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
looney4labs Offline OP
Sonic Boomer
looney4labs  Offline OP
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
Hi guys

We've used Sandboxie for quite awhile to surf in, but the last Windows update broke it completely for us. So, we are searching for a new program. I refuse to surf unless I'm in a sandbox.

Anyone have any recommendations for a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks wavegirl


"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole."
-Roger Caras
Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230835
10/14/20 05:30 PM
10/14/20 05:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,104
Near St. Louis, MO
Draclvr Offline
Reviews Editor - Hints/Glitches Mod - Site Support
Draclvr  Offline
Reviews Editor - Hints/Glitches Mod - Site Support
True Blue Boomer

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,104
Near St. Louis, MO


Once again, weeds are my life!
Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230836
10/14/20 05:32 PM
10/14/20 05:32 PM
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
Jenny100 Offline
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Jenny100  Offline
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
Someone at Wilders Security suggested something called ReHIPS
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/what-would-replace-sandboxie.416711/

I used to use something called Proxomitron, which is very old now but which claims to still work.
https://proxomitron.info/

If you REALLY want a Sandbox, use Virtual Machine software like VMware.

It looks like Windows 10 has a sandbox, though not specifically for browsing and you need Win10 Pro or Enterprise. Home does not include it.
https://www.howtogeek.com/399290/HOW-TO-USE-WINDOWS-10S-NEW-SANDBOX-TO-SAFELY-TEST-APPS/

Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230879
10/15/20 10:00 AM
10/15/20 10:00 AM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
looney4labs Offline OP
Sonic Boomer
looney4labs  Offline OP
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
Thanks, Drac wavegirl

Thanks, Jenny100. I just want to be able to surf safely. I don't need to test software, just be able to google without picking up the virus of death. My g'sons occasionally use my machine. Sandboxie was great, but got buggier and buggier, and with the last update, just won't work on any of our computers. I always figure I'll get good info from you all.


"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole."
-Roger Caras
Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230882
10/15/20 10:31 AM
10/15/20 10:31 AM
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
Jenny100 Offline
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Jenny100  Offline
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
Yes, I know what you want.
I'd want the same thing, and as I said I used to use Sandboxie, and before that Proxomitron.
But developers don't seem to want to make really useful software for web browsing, barring certain add-ons.

Of course they'll be happy to sell you an overpriced antivirus that may have side effects even worse than a virus.

If you want an actual sandbox, you have to use something heavyweight and slow, like a VM.
Something that is 80 times more than you need, and does a really poor, slow job of things.
Originally Posted by looney4labs
I don't need to test software,

Very few people need to test software.
VM's aren't just made for testing software, and aren't even that good for it -- especially if the software needs something like video card capabilities or some other hardware capability. Virtual video cards in VMs are pretty bad.
They do separate potentially infected stuff inside the VM from the computer's main operating system.
However some malware is "VM-aware" and behaves itself when inside a VM, so you can't really test whether it would behave like malware outside the VM or not.

Quote
just be able to google without picking up the virus of death.

That can happen whether you use sandboxie or similar anyway.
Worse than a virus is malware that steals your information.
Credit card number stolen? That's nothing. $50 tops.
What you have to worry about are the 800 new credit card accounts made in your name using your information, and each one charged to the max. That will take years to sort out, and may follow you around for the rest of your life.

I don't think using something like Sandboxie helps with "safety" as much as it used to.
Too many new strategies for thieves, who can easily work around browser sandboxing.

One thing you can try is to boot off a Linux DVD instead of your hard drive, then do your browsing with that. Firefox on Linux works the same way as Firefox on Windows. Or you can use Chrome, Chromium, or Opera browser if you prefer.
Browsing from a DVD is slow because it has to get its info off an optical drive, and those tend to be slow.
A burned DVD will not get infected once sessions are closed.
But you're not apt to pick up a Windows virus.

There is software that automatically saves the contents on your hard drive before you do anything with the computer.
Some schools use this kind of thing, because students tend to browse where they catch viruses using the school computers. It's faster for the school's IT department to just assume the students will catch viruses and automatically restore the computers' hard drives to a known clean state every time the school computers are started up in the morning. It may take the computers over an hour to boot because so much restoring has to be done.

I'm sorry what you want does not seem to exist. It doesn't exist for me either.
Check out the ReHIPS or one of the programs at Draclvr's link at
https://blogs.systweak.com/best-sandboxing-software-for-windows-10-8-7/
like "Shade Sandbox."

Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230883
10/15/20 10:35 AM
10/15/20 10:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,104
Near St. Louis, MO
Draclvr Offline
Reviews Editor - Hints/Glitches Mod - Site Support
Draclvr  Offline
Reviews Editor - Hints/Glitches Mod - Site Support
True Blue Boomer

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 20,104
Near St. Louis, MO
Excellent stuff there, Jenny.


Once again, weeds are my life!
Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230904
10/15/20 02:02 PM
10/15/20 02:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
looney4labs Offline OP
Sonic Boomer
looney4labs  Offline OP
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
Thanks, Jenny, we are.

We are currently trying out Shade, but it tends to force us to restart our computers quite often to get get rid of an extra purple box that pops up. We will check out the other programs also. wavegirl


"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole."
-Roger Caras
Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1230915
10/15/20 03:55 PM
10/15/20 03:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
Jenny100 Offline
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Jenny100  Offline
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
Best of luck.
If you find a really good one -- especially one with easy, intuitive controls -- let us know.
I'd be interested in trying out some good ones myself.
Though I hope they're eventually able to fix Sandboxie.
Sandboxie was not Windows-only, and I used it on Linux and Mac -- anything with a web browser.

Re: Sandbox program recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #1231005
10/16/20 12:00 PM
10/16/20 12:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
looney4labs Offline OP
Sonic Boomer
looney4labs  Offline OP
Sonic Boomer

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 48,905
Alabama
I will. Shade works, but it has some problems. We will work our way through several and then pick one.

I loved Sandboxie. I'm with you in hoping they will fix it eventually.


"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole."
-Roger Caras
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

Moderated by  Draclvr 

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 258 guests, and 0 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Staff, Mod
Newest Members
Watcheroftheskys, Darkfallwithin, PierreLombardo, Dux, WillPowerGoat
9390 Registered Users
Powered by UBB.threads™