Congrats on your victory Albert! I understood Not One Word of it!

Well, if those are the instructions to get the TPM module seated and working, all I can say is a lot of people's eyes are going to glaze over while reading them. This is not to say that those aren't good instructions, because they are - but I don't know that many people that would be able or willing to attempt all of this on their own, for starters. What on earth is Microsoft thinking.

Glad you got it working though, Albert - and good for you!

My son has an ASUS motherboard, too, so thank you for the information about the motherboard updates that ASUS will be offering. No clue as to whether his motherboard will take a TPM module.

Same with my ASUS motherboard, Marian. I'm just so angry about all this. I'm all about security upgrades, but when you disconnect millions of people from the internet because of a hardware requirement? I think I'm outta here with that one. I really think they are shooting themselves in the foot for the rank and file of computer users out there.

Again not to sound too repetitive, what is the rush to do all this when Microsoft is ending support for Windows 10 on October 14th, 2025[/b] meaning you still a whole [b]4 Years and 2 months with Windows 10 fully protected, by then most of us will need new laptops/desktops. So enjoy your Windows 10 and tell MS to bugger off with their W11.

On Oct 14th 2025 Microsoft will get that message from me just the same, Starcom.

[ The message you put so adroitly ]

I love your message, Starcom! I'm in absolutely NO rush to worry about any of this until I have to. I'd just like to know and learn as much about it as possible so I'm prepared - not so much for myself, but for my friends whose computers I work on.

Thanks Mad and Draclvr for the encouraging responses, Draclvr re: your friends you maintain their computers, YOU Are Their Computer Goddess, so just CUFF them behind the Ears and tell them not to worry, when Oct 2025 arrives you will take care of them.

Yeah, but how am I going to do that if Microsoft won't let them keep their computers?! They are all clueless, so I'm sure not going to say anything!

Yes but Draclvr, I am 110% positive you will figure something out WAY before that happens.

This has been a fascinating and informative thread. Thanks all

Drop in any old time, flotsam!

The more input the better, I say, flotsam!

Microsoft is supposed to have a tool to evaluate your machine for upgrade to Win11. Its not available right now, possibly due to re-evaluating the requirements. Threads like this may be part of the reason behind that.

In the mean time, there are third party tools to get an idea. I downloaded and ran whynotwin11.exe . You can get it multiple places, so I didn’t post a link. Some my be bogus, I don’t know.

Here are the results on my two machines:

Lapttop- Ready to go! It has an 8’th gen I5-8250 CPU

Desktop- CPU not on current approved list. Its a 6’th gen I5-6600, and current specs do call for an 8’th gen CPU. Everything else was OK. It might work, it might not.This could be a biggie, as 8’th gen CPU’s do have some new security stuff built in, including the TPM stuff (which is why I think my laptop was OK). The TPM module I put in is useless if this holds. According to CPU-Z, my motherboard was made 7-23-2017. Its only four years old! Given the state of CPU’s these days, as far as Ghz goes, I had really hoped to get a lot more out of it.

Albert

When I rebuilt this desktop a year ago, I put in a 10th Gen CPU, so I'm good there. However, even if I'm good, I'm furious about all the people with good useable computers who won't be good.

Intel has re-released their Windows 11 health check app to check for Windows 11 upgrade compatibilty. I ran it on my desktop, and nope, no go. The TPM stuff was OK (Iinstalled a TPM module) but it confirms you need an 8th gen Intel CPU or above to upgrade. AMD CPU’s appear to have to be about as fairly recent. Oh well, we’ve still got about 4 years of Win10 support. Note that 8th gen Intel CPU's have the TPM stuff built in, along with some extra security stuff. I'm beginning to think security is the name of the game with this version of Windows.

Albert

I agree, Albert. Security is definitely what Windows 11 is all about. I'm find with that, but what about the folks who just need a decent computer to do their email and play a few casual games? Guess they are just not important any more.

And what about businesses that run loads of staff computers ?? There are bound to be some who won't be able to afford the change ??

Yes, for sure... office computers too. Although businesses in particular should welcome the added security, how many will be able to afford brand new computers for the entire business? If one were cynical, one would have to wonder if this isn't a collaboration between Microsoft and computer manufacturers!

I've always thought that.

I see in my "Settings" today that I have a note that says:

"This PC doesn't currently meet all the system requirements for Windows 11. Get PC Health Check
Get the details and see if there are things you can do in the PC Health Check app"

I'm just commenting. I knew my system was not ready for Windows 11. I hope they are not going to be bugging us for the next 4 years with this like they did with Windows 10 when they tried to forcibly download it to people's computers (at least it seemed that's what they tried to do).

Mine says the same, oldbroad. From what I understand, they are not going to be bugging us with popups etc. But we shall see.

I hadn't read that one, Marian, but I've read a couple of other pieces that pretty much say the same thing. I like this one though because it says exactly what I think... WHY? What is the point?

Oh, how I wish Jenny was here! Can you imagine!

Indeed, what I wouldn't give to hear Jenny's comments about this!

Me too !!!!