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Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1298420
05/19/23 04:22 PM
05/19/23 04:22 PM
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Ooh Oooh! I got it running!

Turned off the Super Sampling Method. Thanks Orion and Draclvr. Time for lemonade LOL

Gonna play for a while; then tomorrow will open up the box and see if there is a slot for additional RAM.
We have an actual computer store around the corner, and will go talk to them about 16 or 32 gigs. If this computer can handle it, that is.

Here's my specs:

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19044) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: 450-011
BIOS: 80.06 (type: UEFI)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4170 CPU @ 3.70GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8130MB RAM
Page File: 12420MB used, 3796MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)
System DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: UnKnown
Miracast: Available, no HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8
DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.2075 64bit Unicode

Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GT 710
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_128B&SUBSYS_36F71458&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 6083 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2018 MB
Shared Memory: 4064 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported

Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1298425
05/19/23 08:18 PM
05/19/23 08:18 PM
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Yippee! Sounds of Draclvr jumping up and down! joy2

Orion TO THE RESCUE!

Tally Ho, as of October 14, 2025, Microsoft will stop all extended support for Windows 10. I would just let your current hardware ride for now. One of your main issues is the video card. They are mega expensive right now and It wouldn't make sense to pour a lot of money into hardware upgrades if you will just need to get a new computer by then. If you upgraded to a new video card, you may have to also upgrade your power supply. It could get very expensive. RAM is the least of your worries!

Now, if your motherboard can support something that is needed for upgrading to Windows 11, then that might be a different story. It's called TPM 2.0 - Total Protection Module. I have it on my motherboard, but I need to enable it in the BIOS before I can upgrade to Windows 11.

I would just let things ride for now and get with your local shop to see what they can advise for you.

Oh, happy gaming for you! This makes my day! I may forgo the lemonade and have a glass of wine!


Gardens put to bed for the winter. Time for some gaming!
Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1298439
05/20/23 07:43 AM
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ALRIGHT!!....Glad you got it up and running Tally Ho

*******

Patch 1 for Firmament already out. Not messing around are they


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Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1298470
05/20/23 06:01 PM
05/20/23 06:01 PM
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I have upgraded my desktop twice in the past to play Cyan games - the first time was RealMyst and the second was Obduction.
I think on that basis it is their turn to upgrade my system. I will let you know what they say grin


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Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1298486
05/20/23 09:56 PM
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I nearly spewed my lovely red wine all over my keyboard at that one, flotsam! DO let us know what they say! LOL!


Gardens put to bed for the winter. Time for some gaming!
Re: Firmament [Re: flotsam] #1298506
05/21/23 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by flotsam
I have upgraded my desktop twice in the past to play Cyan games - the first time was RealMyst and the second was Obduction.
I think on that basis it is their turn to upgrade my system. I will let you know what they say grin


Go for it flotsam....GET UM !! LOL


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Re: Firmament [Re: flotsam] #1298523
05/21/23 09:43 AM
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Flotsam - I think you're onto something. They certainly owe me one by now. (Standing by with breath abated 😶 )

Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1298574
05/21/23 11:14 PM
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Good one flotsam bravo It would be nice though if that would work lol

Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1300889
06/25/23 07:21 AM
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Just a quick update -
I have been able to play the game after raising my ram to 16GB. The graphics quality is a bit rough, but I tolerate it.

I do not have a VR headset, but am going to borrow one from a friend, to see if my computer will handle it (which I doubt)

The main reason I was inspired to comment further, was something that happened yesterday. There is a part in the game where you get inside a big awkward insect-like machine and drive it around to accomplish a few things. You have to climb out and look around, then climb back in several times. While doing that, I got trapped in the machinery with no way out. The only way to proceed was to quit and load a saved game. That resulted in over an hour of replay. What's worse, there are ONLY TWO saved game slots, which discourages the player from saving more often. Whose idea was that?! I have read where there are other spots where you can get trapped in the graphics such as standing in a doorway as it closes, but haven't seen this one written up.

Anyway, I am a stubborn old coot, and will finish Firmament, along with a surplus of verboten vocabulary. 🤐

Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1300901
06/25/23 10:30 AM
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“Verboten Vocabulary” sounds exactly the right response, Tally Ho !!

And good luck for no further impediments 🤡🤡🤡


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Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1300902
06/25/23 10:41 AM
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I agree with Mad... "verboten vocabulary" is exactly the correct response! I've had that happen to me too and there is nothing I hate more than not having enough save slots so I can save often! Good luck and certainly you won't have to deal with any more issues like that! Right?


Gardens put to bed for the winter. Time for some gaming!
Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1301209
06/29/23 04:36 PM
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Time for a final comment. I finished the game last night, after a mighty struggle through the final puzzle. I, who have written many walkthroughs, resorted to using not one, but THREE solutions to help with the challenge.

(Here's not really much of a spoiler)
The puzzle takes place in a mazelike environment, with up and down ramps, in low lighting, underwater, and wearing a kind of diving suit. The water is so cold, there are huge chunks of ice that you must eliminate by getting heaters to work. The walkways weave in and out of large and small steam pipes, and you can't see very far. After constantly getting lost, I finally followed step-by step instructions, or I would still be there. This experience didn't do anything to improve my attitude towards mazes! blech
Total gameplay time: just short of 60 hours, and just over a month. Yes, I do have other stuff to do! happydance

Anyway, back to the reason for this thread. Adding a minimal video card and adding 8Mb of RAM to the original eight, allowed Firmament to play; and although I know the video I was experiencing was low quality, I got through it with only a few technical issues. As mentioned above, there are some 'gaps' in the graphics that allow the player to become trapped. One time I was caught in a machine's gears, and another time was suspended over a huge tank of acid with my feet not touching a solid surface. Apparently when that happens, the progamming cannot relate to your location and the only way out is to quit and load a saved game. Maybe the 'gap' is a function of my smallish video card, but I doubt it. Maybe this happened to some of the Beta testers, maybe not. But if it did, the programmers didn't come up with a global solution.

Oh - if it makes any difference; I had been a backer in the kickstarter. The version I played came from GOG, not Steam. I have not used a patch to update it; perhaps the problem of getting trapped has been addressed.
To all of you who helped me out; Thank you so much!! thanks

Re: Firmament [Re: Tally Ho] #1301210
06/29/23 05:17 PM
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Congrats on finishing the game Tally Ho!

Thanks for coming back with a final comment to round out the whole experience!

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