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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136750
12/23/04 09:54 PM
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Hi Steve!

I'm playing I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream in Dosbox & followed Bill's setup on Inferno's site with a few changes. (I'm not using Xkey, didn't need it.)

I had to do some speeding up of the cycles, then some slowing down, then speeding up again, etc by using the F12 & F11 keys. The game was doing great until I got to Ellen's character & all of a sudden I'm having temporary freezes & skipping sound again. Any suggestions?

I also have a question about the cycles speed. Dosbox says that one can damage the computer by speeding it up more than the computer can go. How would I know the limits of my cpu? Where would that info be? I have a 4 CPU 2 GHZ processor. Is that the info I would look at and how would it relate to say 9050 cycles?

Thanks!

Melanie


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136751
12/23/04 10:24 PM
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Melanie, hi,

One thing I observed about that particular I Have No Mouth setup is... that you don't need both DOSBox *and* VDMSound! They both do the same thing, which is to virtualise the old DOS sound hardware. So you could improve performance by getting rid of VDMSound for starters. It could very well be fighting against DOSBox for control of your sound card scared

Then, please don't believe anything you read about damaging your 'puter. Urban legend stuff.

And finally, if you have a 2GHZ processor, you should be able to run DOSBox up to cycles=15000, or even more. The trick is to find a setting that the game runs comfortably at, with the least amount of clicking/stuttering. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of I Have No Mouth... or I would be able to advise better frown

Good luck with it,
Steve


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136752
12/23/04 10:37 PM
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the quick answer. smile

Another dumb question, how would I go about undoing the VDMsound? Would I do that in the IHNMAIMS config or the dosbox config?

Melanie


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136753
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Mel, hi again,

You don't have to get 'rid' of VDMSound, just don't run it! By the way, you may find that this game runs better with VDMSound than it does in DOSBox. Either one by itself should do the trick.

Getting very late here in Ireland. Gotta get some kip!

Slan,
Steve


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136754
12/23/04 11:21 PM
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Hi Steve I just wanted to say a quick thanks because thanks to your xp corner on the Quandary I have been playing for a little while now Gabriel Knight one and loving it!! I have had this game for at least two years maybe three and have never been able to play it until now. I found a link somewhere on gameboomers about your page on the quandary read it followed the instructions yelled a few obscenities! pulled out a few hairs!! but then man was it worth it!! bravo Thank you Thank you and also a big thanks to the Dosbox team!!! <img border="0" alt="[holidays]" title="" src="graemlins/holidays.gif" /> aspen


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136755
12/24/04 02:46 AM
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I guess I haven't been using the VDMsound then, Steve. lol

I've just been running the game in Dosbox. Maybe I should try it in VDMsound. think

I better look at the setup & configurations again.

Clueless me. eek

Melanie


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136756
12/24/04 06:52 AM
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aspen, hi,

Thanks! It took me about 3 tries to get that setup working on everyone's machine. Since DOSBox 0.63 was released, I haven't found a single DOS game that it won't run, including some real stinkers like: System Shock, Pandora Directive, Realms of the Haunting, and Ultima VII (just set: ems=false for that one).

Happy GK'ing,
Steve


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136757
12/24/04 06:56 AM
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Mel, hi again,

Full instructions for using VDMSound in my original article on getting old games working in XP:

Bring Out Your Dead!

Happy Xmas,
Steve


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136758
12/24/04 02:51 PM
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Hi Steve,

Thanks again! I have your 'Bring Our Your Dead' page saved to my hard drive. lol I'm going to try IHNMAIMS in VDM sound and see if it does better as soon as I get a chance to play again. I'll let you know whether it works better that way or in dosbox for me.

Your last setup for GK1 was the winner for me too, Steve! After trying to play it 6 times with other setups, it's running like a charm. I'm almost done with it but stuck at the dreaded action scene in the snake pit, so keep going back & trying again in between other games. smile

Have a great Xmas!

Melanie


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136759
12/25/04 01:27 PM
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Hi Steve,

IHNMAIMS did about the same in dosbox as in VDMsound so I solved my problem by turning the voice off & used text only in that section of the game, which allowed me to finish it without the freezes & I just put the voices back on again when I finished that section.

For some reason, so far that particular character is the only one I've had trouble with. It's playing fine again.

Thanks.

Merry Xmas!

Melanie

EDIT: I finished it! Love this game. For some reason that was the only rough spot. smile


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136760
12/27/04 03:12 PM
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I just would say thanks metzomagic.
Thanks to DOSBox, I finally made my copy of Discworld 1 to run. No sound, but I don't complain, it is working. smile

Caroline.


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136761
12/29/04 08:07 PM
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Carolin, hi,

Aw, come on thumbsup

Anyone else have any ideas?

TIA,
Steve


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136762
01/01/05 02:47 AM
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Quote:
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Katsmom, hi,

Sounds like a horror story alright! To get rid of adware, I occasionally use Spybot: Search & Destroy. AFAIK, that only runs when you ask it to thumbsup

Cheers,
Steve
Hi Steve. The 'culprit' program was Spy Sweeper (by Webroot). I just had to disable certain features, to finally delete the DOS program.

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136763
01/04/05 06:48 AM
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Does anybody know if this "Dos" fix would help with the game "Nautilus"? My sister, Kaki and I have never been able to play it because every time the mouse cursor gets to close to any side of the computer screen the game crashes to the desk top!

Can someone tell me if this Dos fix will help or is there something else we need to do. We would really like to play the game!

Thanks! help


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136764
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If you're talking about the TAC game Mystery of the Nautilus, that is a Windows game and not a DOS game. So DOSBox won't help you.

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136765
02/04/05 10:13 PM
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Dear Steve, have printed out your instructions for Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers and have got to the DOS Command Prompt stage (oh that frightens me). I typed in d: and then install as per instructions but it keeps saying it is an illegal command. I tried this on both c and d.
Please help I really want to play this game and DOS really gives me the willies.
Thank You

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136766
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Steve's instructions from ***here*** say

Quote:

Wherever you installed DOSBox to, go there and edit the file dosbox.conf, replacing the section at the very bottom of the file (Note: if your CD-ROM drive letter is 'E:', then substitute 'E:' for the 'D:' below) with the following:

[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
mount D D:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
mount C C:\
C:

Another note: you have to get that exactly right, so it's best just to copy and paste right out of this web page and into the dosbox.conf file using Notepad or a text editor...
If you printed out the instructions, you might have made a mistake in those lines.

Also, is your CD drive letter D: or did you change the D: in the example to whatever your drive letter is?

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136767
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Hi Jenny,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I actually copied and pasted the first lines so that i didn't make a mistake.
I can get into Dosbox thru the Command Prompt - that's no problem.
My Local Disk is C and where I put the game is D - i have tried both and they give me the illegal command.
Am I being stupid? Do I need to have the game in the D drive and then do it?
I have the Dosbox 63 version loaded.
Thanks for your time.

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136768
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I DID IT...I DID IT....
I am such a dribble - fancy that - putting the Disk in DOES help !!!!!!
Thanks Jenny - all ok and I have sound.
I have certainly learnt a thing or two and now look out all those old unplayed games....
Doh oops

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136769
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Dear Jenny,
Just to prove how really thick I am - Do I have to go thru the Command Prompt and Dosbox everytime I want to play the Game? Or can I create a Shortcut somewhere?
Thanks so much praise

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136770
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Hi Jada,

You can make a shortcut on your desktop for dosbox.

Just go to the file where you have it installed, right-click the dosbox63.exe file & choose make shortcut. Then drag it to your desktop. It works fine for me that way. I never use the command line to get in.

Melanie


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136771
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Gotcha Melanie.
Cheers for that - It works - I was trying to avoid having to type in the sierra/gkcd,
sierra code to get there.
We are nice and lazy here down-under and with a few wines a good game should be easy to get too.
Thanks a lot for the help.
Jane

Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136772
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Jada,
I am so happy that you got the DOSBox to work but I am still working at it. A kind Boomer set me step by step instructions for installing The Dame Was Loaded but the Boomer was using the dosbox62 and I downloaded the dosbox63 so I was unable to follow it step by step. If anyone has in fact installed the Dame using the dosbox63 version please hold my hand and walk me through it. I won't give up until I get it right.


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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136773
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Do y'all think DosBox might help with The Day the World Broke lockup/crashing problems? I am aware now that some of these are linearity bugs, but how about the inventory-related lockups?

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Re: DOSBox: Let's go for it! #136774
02/15/05 12:38 AM
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I am still a little fuzzy about the short cut and I do feel stupid asking but I need to be sure. I have played Fate Of Atlantis using DosBox.0.63 but how do I make a shortcut for my desk top. Do I open the folder and then click on my dosbox.exe to make the short cut or what? I know it has been explained many times but I hope there is another gamer out there who is still as lost as I am ...I hate to be stupid alone .


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