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Diamonds in the rough- I am stuck! #308106
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Hello everyone,

I sort of expected this to happen as I read others getting stuck here and there during this nice game smile I am stuck at the moment and I keep going around and around and can not figure out what to do next. I just talked to Henry in his room about the plan, but I can´t get the yellow folders as both the doc and William are in their office. I can´t figure out how to enter the warehouse or how to get a bottle of liquor to knock off the receptionist. Hmm I also need to change a light bulb , but Jason does not want to write a note to put in the mailbox to request a new bulb. I did get the note in the bird´s house and I have the lighter fluid in my inventory, but now what to do next? What is the next step? I have no intention to use a walkthrough as I know you guys will point me in the right direction in the most subtle way possible... grin


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Re: Diamonds in the rough- I am stuck! [Re: jedi valius] #308112
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There could be many things to unstick you and itsa question of trying all and elimination.for instance
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did you return to the bar and notice anything new there?

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"Hmm I also need to change a light bulb , but Jason does not want to write a note to put in the mailbox to request a new bulb".
Did you use a thought on the mailbox ??

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Re: Diamonds in the rough- I am stuck! [Re: LindaMarion] #308113
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No I noticed nothing new in the bar except half a drink left on the table...nothing else. Should I have noticed something? Does the game progress in a linear fashion or can you do things in a random order? Also aren´t spoilers expected in the hint section or do we have to use the spoiler tags?


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Re: Diamonds in the rough- I am stuck! [Re: jedi valius] #308120
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Are you sure there's nothing at the back of the bar near the toilet door.
Maybe the spoiler I added will help

Re: Diamonds in the rough- I am stuck! [Re: LindaMarion] #308122
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I have no thought about the the light bulb at all... I will go back and check the toilet door near abouts and see if there is anything new...


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Sounds you need that bulb.have you been into the store room you should have a thought

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Click to reveal..
You do need to try a few things. Like changing the light bulb, or touching it... Otherwise Jason won't think about changing it really. Remember, you guide Jasons thought partly.


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The warehouse comes rather late, after speaking to someone in order to distract the guards.


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The folders come really really last in the game 5-10 minutes before the finale. I'm talking about those 2 in docs room and Williams room


The game is somewhat linear, meaning unless you have done what is needed, or collected the items you need, you won't get a chance to get the liquer, simply because you wouldn't be able.

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Once everything is in order, going to the bar, you'll notice a new item, which you can use...


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Yes the bulb is in the store room...I have examined it and tried to take it too, but no thought appeared.

Nikolas- nothing happens when I examine or try to take the bulb: no new thoughts


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Hi jedi valius, the game is to some extent non-linear! I don't think it's just the light bulb holding you up but for that you need to try 'looking' at stuff in your store cupboard. Have you also had a good look in all the rooms in your apartment & picked up everything? If that doesn't help can you post a little more about what you've already done. smile

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Hi Chrissie, I have tried to look at stuff in the store room but Jason just says the bulb is fried: no new thought is being added though. In the house I picked up the notebook and the pen in the drawers in Jason´s bedroom. I have the secret note from the bird house as well and the lighter fluid. I have just talked to Henry about the plan in his room.


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Have you looked at the desk in the attic

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You must do somethuing in the storeroom and you must geta thought about it.that can be done any time even right at the begin of the game.
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perhaps list the items in inventory

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also I suppose you have dealt with desk in attic and got a cut-message?

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Try clicking on the light bulb again!

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Click to reveal..
Wait... Have you gotten some kind of thought in the first place? The way to order the lightbulb is to actually apply the thought "order a lightbulb" to the mailbox, not to try and make Jason to write a note...

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If you already looked (eye icon) the bulb you will have a new thought about it...


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Hey Nikolas, yes had I had a thought about the bulb I would have already applied it to the mailbox as that was already my main intention. smile

Hey guys: I tried examining the bulb, taking the bulb and I clicked on about 4 or 5 things in the store room always getting the same reply about the bulb being fried. I am not sure what I am doing wrong or not doing to be honest...I´ll get back into the game now and try to re-click on the bulb and things in the storeroom. I´ll get back to you in 5 to let you know if anything changed!


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Click on the shelves... and did you pick up the notepad and the pen... You need them... smile


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Ok here is how it happened...I clicked on the light bulb with the eye icon (examine) and tried to take the light bulb (hand icon) to change it and the examined all things in the storage room and no thought appeared , even though Jason mentioned several times that the bulb was fried. THEN when I tried to take something in the store room with the hand icon, only then the thought appeared about changing the light bulb. I think this was very peculiar as the thought should have occurred to Jason as soon as he saw the bulb was not functional... instead I had to try and grab something in the room before he realized the bulb should be changed. Jason is a bit thick then hehe


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Well then... You did it! thumbsup


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Volkana: yes I did but I think that particular part was a bit hard to figure out and went against my common sense...if I see a bulb is out, I would get a thought about changing it without the need for me to touch or try to grab things in the room hehe But yes I am past that now! Thanks for your help!

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I did get stuck again just after solving the bulb thing! I don´t know why this often happens to me like one stuck moment calls another! hehe However I did manage to find the key and the matchbox. The info on the matchbox seems pretty important but no new thought came up about it...I went around and talked to people, checked if the offices were empty (they weren´t) and found a bucket and mop in the bar. I am not sure what to do next but I feel embaressed to ask for help already again so soon! Maybe I am just too impatient or a bad player frown

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I had a feeling it was light bulb stuckiness
len greenn walkthrough wrote
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***** Enter the storage room and look around… “It looks as though the light bulb in this room is burnt out”
***** Click on some shelves… “You can’t see anything in here. You must replace the light bulb”
***** In the thoughts-panel you obtain a new thought, i.e. ‘order a light bulb’

but your right. maybe the thought should come when you click on the burnt light bulb before click on shelves.

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Originally Posted By: LindaMarion
I had a feeling it was light bulb stuckiness
len greenn walkthrough wrote
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***** Enter the storage room and look around… “It looks as though the light bulb in this room is burnt out”
***** Click on some shelves… “You can’t see anything in here. You must replace the light bulb”
***** In the thoughts-panel you obtain a new thought, i.e. ‘order a light bulb’

but your right. maybe the thought should come when you click on the burnt light bulb before click on shelves.


Yes or the thought should come when you examine the shelves in the room and see that it is too dark to see...


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The mop, etc... This actually takes a bit of knowledge which I didn't have. If you mix two different liquids, you might get some kind of smoke which will drive the barman away.


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The matches are used later on in the game. Inside the warehouse.


I try not to give you exact instructions...

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Hi jedi valius, I did mention earlier that you needed to search your apartment - there may be a couple of things you missed? Also don't forget the note from the birdhouse ..... smile

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CHrissie, I already have the note and noticed the scribbled note on the matchbox as well. From the house I picked up the notebook, pen and scissors.

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Thanks Nikolas for the hints about the bucket and the matchbox but I still don´t know what to do next frown


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