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2008 Darkside game recommendations #359489
07/12/08 10:27 PM
07/12/08 10:27 PM
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Long Beach, Australia
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Hi all,
Here tis as promised.
Plenty of people dabble in the darkside, me included, but need help about what to play. Its a dark scary world over here, and some guidance is welcomed.
So, the object of this thread, like its light side sibling,is to recommend to other boomers non-adventure games that you believe worthy of playing in this day and age. The games may be your all time favourites, but they need not be. I loved Quake at the time but I wouldn't recommend it today.
We then compile a final list as a resource for other players.
The rules are fairly simple.

1. Subject to the devilchilli special offer (see below) you can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but you don't have to, and can recommend less.
2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game.
3. Expansion packs will be considered seperate games, on the basis that the original might be ordinary but an expansion pack superb.
4. Any game that is not pure adventure can be listed, irrespective of genre.
5. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 rpg's if you choose.
6. It is essentially a pc list, but given that many players have consoles as well, if you want to list games for the console go right ahead.

devilchili Special offer - to assist with counting, anyone who lists in reverse alphabetical order (z-a) can list 14 games devilchili

Please use full titles where possible as I am not as familiar with titles and series over here. Add ons and expansions might confuse me but I will shout if help is needed.
We will keep the list open for 13 days and with help from a nickie of two, the list will be categorised for genre, at least down as far as games with multiple recommendations.
So who is first??


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #359496
07/12/08 10:48 PM
07/12/08 10:48 PM
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Thanks Flotsam

Looks like I'm first. devilchili

Zanzarah
Sacred Plus
Prey
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition
FEAR Perseus Mandate
Fable
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, The
Drakan: Order of the Flame
Divine Divinity
Diablo II
Clive Barkers Undying
Bioshock
Beyond Divinity
American McGees Alice

Ana wave


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #359498
07/12/08 11:10 PM
07/12/08 11:10 PM
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Well, since I made both my lists at the same time expecting this one I'll go ahead and list them.
Witcher
Two Worlds
Tomb Raider 3
Sacred
Outcast
Oblivion
Morrowind
KOTOR II
KOTOR I
Dungeon Siege 2
Divine Divinity
Diablo
BloodRayne
Betrayal In Antara

Doing it aphabetically in reverse puts my favorite RPG in the number 1 position and the first RPG I played in the last position. Doesn't mean anything but I thought it was interesting. think puppy

The Witcher has bumped Morrowind down to second of my favorite RPG's. praise


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: oldman] #359504
07/12/08 11:47 PM
07/12/08 11:47 PM
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Texas
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Zanzarah
Witcher
Sacred Plus (should count the same as Sacred I think)
Quest for Glory 4
Morrowind
Might and Magic VI
Indigo Prophecy (aka Fahrenheit)
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition (aka Kult)
Ghost Master
Dungeon Siege 2
Dragonriders of Pern
Divine Divinity
Beyond Divinity
Anachronox devilchili


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: nickie] #359508
07/13/08 12:07 AM
07/13/08 12:07 AM
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California
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Thief 2
System Shock 2
Stalker
Portal
Planescape Torment
Outcast
Oblivion
Mafia
Half Life 2
Gothic 2
Fallout
Deus Ex
Bioshock
Anachronox

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #359509
07/13/08 12:09 AM
07/13/08 12:09 AM
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Indiana
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Indiana
The Witcher
Super Mario Galaxy
Psychonauts
Overlord
Okami
Mass Effect
The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
Katamari Damacy
Half Life 2
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Chrono Trigger
BioShock
Beyond Good & Evil
American McGee's Alice

Some of the best games in my list came out this year. Always a good sign. grin

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Demosthenes] #359519
07/13/08 01:22 AM
07/13/08 01:22 AM
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Hi flotsam smile

Here's mine .... And thanks thumbsup

Vampire The Masquerade : Redemption
The Witcher
The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind
Return to Krondor
Planescape Torment
Neverwinter Nights
Might & Magic VI
Knights of the Old republic II
Knights of the Old Republic
Fate
Divine Divinity
Diablo
Betrayal in Antara
Baldur’s Gate


Cheers.

Mad wave



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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Mad] #359578
07/13/08 07:22 AM
07/13/08 07:22 AM
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Oslo, Norway
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Aiken's Artifact - Sanity
Alone in the Dark - The New Nightmare
Barnyard
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Morrowind
Oblivion
Star Wars - Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy
Star Wars - Knights of the Old Republic
Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines



I haven't lost it, I just can't find it....
Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Carolin] #359602
07/13/08 08:16 AM
07/13/08 08:16 AM
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Body in California/Heart in Ha...
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(The) Witcher
Sacred Plus
Quest for Glory I
Planescape Torment
Outcast
Oblivion
Morrowind
Might & Magic VI
Knights of the Old Republic II (KOTOR II)
Knights of the Old Republic I (KOTOR I)
Gothic II
Gothic I
Divine Divinity
Anachronox

Man thinking in reverse hurt my brain devilchili


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #359610
07/13/08 08:37 AM
07/13/08 08:37 AM
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The Ravaged Earth
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The Ravaged Earth
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Prey
PlaneScape Torment
Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
Mass Effect
Knights of the Old Republic 1
Halo 1
Fall-Out 1
Deus Ex
Civilization Chronicles (Full Release of all Current Expansions) devilchili
Baldur's Gate 2
Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick Ubscura
Advent Rising


If it doesn't seem to fit in with the voting requirements because it is more of an anthology of games, Civilization Chronicles can be removed as it is my "Devil Chilli" pick. I just had to put it in this year, because it is such a great deal on a huge amount of good game playing....Well...for those of us who enjoy being ruler of the Universe lol


Last edited by Trail_Mystic; 07/14/08 12:51 AM. Reason: Specified Versions

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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Trail_Mystic] #359629
07/13/08 09:25 AM
07/13/08 09:25 AM
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The Witcher
ZanZarah
Diablo II Lords of Destruction (an expansion pack)
American Magee's Alice
Clive Barker's Undying
Prey
Half-Life
Fable The Lost Chapters
Avencast
The Hobbit


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Trail_Mystic] #359755
07/13/08 02:30 PM
07/13/08 02:30 PM
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Denmark, Europe
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Voice le vote, oh this isn't the vote the Eurovision song Contest. Sorry about that...

Anyway, here's my vote for the darkside list 2008

Arcanum: Of steamworks and magick
Baldur's Gate (the orginal)
Bioshock
Fallout 1
Gothic 3
Halo: Combat Evolved (aka Halo 1)
Mass Effect
NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer
Planescape: Torment
Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl
Temple of Elemental Evil
The Witcher

It is only 12 games, but it is the 12 best ones, imo...




Last edited by Karsten; 07/13/08 03:46 PM. Reason: slipped in the witcer and mask of the betrayer (nwn2)

Adventure gaming is fun smile

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Karsten] #360073
07/14/08 08:23 AM
07/14/08 08:23 AM
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Leavenworth, KS
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1. Vampire the Masquerade-Redemption
2. Vampire the Masquerade-Bloodlines
3. Might & Magic 7
4. Clive Barker's Undying
5. Gothic I
6. Gothic II
7. Lands of Lore
8. Call of Cthulhu - DCOTE
9. Indiana Jones & the Infernal Machine
10. Silent Hill 2
11. Silent Hill 3
12. Wizardry 7 - Crusaders of the Dark Savant
13. Bioshock


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Barb] #360121
07/14/08 09:53 AM
07/14/08 09:53 AM
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N.J. U.S.A.
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Thanks for putting together all our DarkSide lists, flotsom!

1. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
2. Thief: Deadly Shadows
3. The Witcher
4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
5. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
6. Psychonauts
7. Planescape: Torment
8. Okami [Wii]
9. No One Lives Forever
10. Mass Effect
11. Knights of the Old Republic
12. Jade Empire: Special Edition
13. Gothic II
14. Bioshock

For series (Gothic, KotOR, and so on) I restricted myself to just one. For the Thief series, it was a tough call. I like the eariler games better for the most part, but areas like The Shalebridge Cradle tipped me to the third.


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: croaker] #360424
07/14/08 08:58 PM
07/14/08 08:58 PM
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Dublin, Ireland
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Wow, this is really difficult...

14. Thief: The Dark Project
13. System Shock 2
12. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
11. Realms of the Haunting
10. Planescape: Torment
9. Jade Empire
8. Half-Life 2
7. Half-Life
6. Freelancer
5. Fallout 2
4. Fallout
3. Divine Divinity
2. Deus Ex
1. Arcanum

Once again, thanks for offering to do the compilation duties, flotsam!

MetzO'Magic


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: metzomagic] #360513
07/15/08 06:08 AM
07/15/08 06:08 AM
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Long Beach, Australia
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Nice start people.
I am actually looking forward to having some rpgs on my own list this year!!


Quantity has a quality all of its own
Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #361136
07/16/08 04:29 AM
07/16/08 04:29 AM
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Khi-Asia
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Yakuza (ps2)
The Witcher
The sims 2: Seasons
The sims 2: Night life
The sims 2: Castway (psp)
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Tekken 5: Dark resurrection (psp)
SWAT: Target Liberty (psp)
Splinter Cell: Double agent (ps2)(totally different ver. from PC)
Silent Hill: Origins (psp)
Shadow of the colossus (ps2)
Manhunt 2 (psp)
Kane and Lynch
Bully (ps2)

I guess buyin psp this year has made me play a lot of games on it than PC frown
pq couldn't make it to top 14. smile

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Trail_Mystic] #361332
07/16/08 11:23 AM
07/16/08 11:23 AM
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Alberta
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Oblivion: The Elder Scrolls IV
Neverwinter Nights 1
Neverwinter Nights 2:Mask of the Betrayer
Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
Morrowind:The Elder Scrolls III
Knights of the Old Republic 1
Diablo II: Lords of Destruction
Baldur's Gate 2:Throne of Bhaal (Expansion)
Baldur's Gate 2
Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick


devilchili



Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Mugsy] #361818
07/17/08 10:35 AM
07/17/08 10:35 AM
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Two Worlds
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Bloodmoon (Morrowind expansion)
Gothic 1
Gothic 2
Gothic 3
Divine Divinity
Baldur's Gate I
Tales of the Sword Coast (BG 1 expansion)
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Baldur's Gate II: The Throne of Bhaal

Sorry, I gave up on alphabetical order because, for example, some people are listing Morrowind under M, some under E for Elder Scrolls, etc.



Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Rowan] #361861
07/17/08 12:04 PM
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USA
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Zanzarah
The Witcher
Oblivion
Fable - The Lost Chapters
Fate
Beyond Good and Evil

Thanks Flotsam! devilchili


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: looney] #361918
07/17/08 01:47 PM
07/17/08 01:47 PM
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Scanian Provinces
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1. Morrowind:The Elder Scrolls III
2. Might and Magic IX
3. Might and Magic VIII
4. Might and Magic VII
5. Lands of Lore II
6. Heroes of Might and Magic III
7. Halo
8. F.E.A.R
9. Baldur's Gate II: The Throne of Bhaal
10. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn






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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Smiley456] #362550
07/18/08 04:02 PM
07/18/08 04:02 PM
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Long Beach, Australia
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Halfway people and its tight.
Oblivion and The Witcher are tied for most popular, with Oblivion perhaps having an advantage in the run home as it has been out longer so more people might have played it. But we will see.
KOTOR is doing well, as is Planescape Torment, Morrowind and Divine Divinity.
Plenty of games too that I for one have never heard of.
To clarify, Sacred and Sacred Plus are indeed treated as one game, as are Thief and Thief Gold - same as last year and it hasn't been an issue yet.
Ditto Jade Empire and its special ed - as far as I know they are the pc and xbox versions of the same game.


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #362560
07/18/08 04:24 PM
07/18/08 04:24 PM
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1. Baldur's Gate 2
2. Realms of the Haunting
3. Zanzarah
4. Divine Divinity
5. The Witcher
6. Anvil of Dawn
7. Ultima Underworld
8. Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness
9. Might and Magic World of Xeen
10. Might and Magic 6
11. Ghost Master
12. Dragonriders of Pern
13. Anachronox

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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Marian] #362991
07/19/08 02:03 PM
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Pennsylvania
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1. Thief
2. Psychonauts
3. Planescape: Torment
4. No One Lives Forever
5. Neverwinter Nights
6. Knights of the Old Republic
7. Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast
8. Jade Empire
9. Half Life
10. Deus Ex
11. Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal
12. Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
13. Baldur's Gate 1

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: metzomagic] #363395
07/20/08 10:49 AM
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1. The Witcher
2. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
3. Silent Hill 3
4. Prey
5. Neverwinter nights II
6. Jade Empire: Special Edition
7. Gothic II
8. Dungeon Siege II
9. Condemned: Criminal Origins
10. Avencast: Rise of the Mage

Since this is a recommendation list to play today I didn't include one of my favorites, Baldur's Gate, because I think it would look outdated now. Also I would like to warn that 3 ad 9 are not for people easily scared or dislike "gorish" games.


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