I climbed up to the top of the post in the GPC where the challenge marker was and I can see where your point of view might have been. Plus I was up on the rocks and saw the crow at the top of the one pointier rock, but for the life of me I can't get to a vantage point up there! I also can't figure out what the sparkly thing is by the crow either...

My brain was already fried after doing our taxes, so after spending about an hour trying to figure this one out, I will cry "uncle!"

It's not like I really gave you much to go on, given the complexity involved.

This whole mess involves understanding how the telekinesis power functions (or, as in my case, stumbling across a "glitch" and working it out later.) Unlike some of the other powers, Telekinesis roots Raz in place until the player lets go of the appropriate button. If he's in midair at the time, Raz will fall straight down until he hits the ground.

The camera, however, focuses not on Raz (like usual) but on the person or object you're moving with your mind. This is true no matter how far away Raz happens to be at the time: to compensate, the camera just zooms out a bit so you can see Raz in the corner of the screen.

Then there's the crow. If you climb to the very top of the nearby rock tower, you can see the crow, but if you stand there you'll find the crow is too far away for your powers to work on it.

Using the levitation power you can jump almost high enough to touch the crow.

Almost.

By jumping that high, you also just barely come close enough to use your psychic powers. Near the peak of your jump, you can use various powers, such as pyrokinesis, but unlike the other birds in the game, you can't actually harm the bird.

On that note, the orange thing floating above the bird in the picture is Raz's Telekinesis power in action. Unlike the other attack powers, it lasts as long as the telekinesis button is depressed. Since you can't interact with the bird, the bird stays rooted to the spot rather than lifting into the air.

Normally if you just jump up above the cliff using levitation and use telekinesis on the bird at the peak of your jump (just after landing on the cliff in front of the bird), a glowing orange hand appears above the bird, and Raz falls straight down, back to the top of the cliff. The total distance between the bird and Raz is only a few feet, so nothing unusual happens.

But if you jump a little to the left before using telekinesis, then you'll be hovering over the edge of the cliff. When Raz falls downwards, he lands on the sloped wall to the left of the cliff, and then slides all the way into the valley at the base of those tall trees in the picture.

As long as you keep the telekinesis button depressed, the center of the camera remains fixed on the bird and the glowing hand. But because Raz is so far away, the camera zooms way out in order to include him in the picture (even though he's actually behind a wall at this point.) You can even rotate the camera, which rotates through an enormous swath of the forest (and the GPC) as it attempts to keep both Raz and the bird in the frame.

I haven't tested it just yet, but I suspect the same trick will work for any sufficiently tall object with an interactive character near the top of it (such as the top of the lodge, during certain parts of the game.)

[EDIT] Actually the crow may be a special case. You can't use telekinesis unless you're on the ground. So you have to land on the conveniently sloped grass in front of the crow, then use telekinesis while sliding back down. Land a little to the left, and you'll slide past the cliff. There aren't many places in the game where a character stands on a cliff that's too steep to stand on. For some reason.

I love it... a goal for after I finish this game. So that's TK on the crow; I'd have guess PK. I have got to at least give this a try.

Someone was having way too much fun with their mental powers here!

Not unique.

Just harder to pull off. And not quite as impressive looking.

Looks pretty impressive to me! Just not as interesting as the little "anomoly" above the crow in the other one...

So, I'm off to Velvetopia...

:StPats:

Am now in Velvetopia-Wow! talk about psychedelic colors. I think this is my favorite world so far.SO...on with the show!

This world is massively confusing for me! I'm almost through it and am about to take on the final battle for the Queen of Spades. I admit I resorted to a walkthrough to make sure I didn't miss anything. I think I finally know where everything is, but it took awhile!

Psychedelic, for sure!!

I'm almost done with Velvetopia-just have to win the Spade card battle,then on to the upper floors!This has been a fun place-got a kick out of those doggy artists, esp.the last one where you get to help him with the sign painting job

Let me know if you finally defeat the mighty Cobra.. I'm still trying!

Hello drac-
I defeated the cobra finally after umpteen tries and much grumbling and groaning.How did you do?You got the confusion badge didn't you? That is a must for the cobra.
Have you tried the next battle yet? It looks even worse-I'll wait until tomorrow to tackle that one again. Meanwhile, back to an easier game!
I went back to Sasha Nein's lab and the brain tumbler-now all the little doors are open except one-that must be the last level-Yippee!

Good for you!!

I tried several times Saturday night with no success and haven't had time to go back to it yet. Yes, I did get the confusion badge and the upgrade for it. I'm sure I'll get him one of these times!

EDIT: Hah! Finally got the big dummy! But, now, Yikes! It's on to El Odio!

Onwards and upwards

After taking a look at this battle, I think it's going to more of a lateral move instead of upwards!!

I defeated Edgar the Bull in the first part of the battle, but lost the 2nd part where the matator comes out AAArrrgggh! then you have to start all over again, at which point I gave up and got dinner.
Lost is on TV tonite, so I will try again tomorrow-let me know how you do Drac!

Updated 4 days later-still haven't managed to defeat the matador yet. I find the controls are too clumsy(maybe its me) to shoot him with the spear quickly enough. My patience runs out after about 30 min. of trying.

Later:Yyyeessss!!! I finally beat him-onward and upward to the upper floors

You know, reading this thread makes me sort of want to try and start this game again...sort of. I got so frustrated with it that I quit. Think I'll just live vicariously through you guys. LOL

Bigmamma woohoo Good job! I knew you could do it

I've defeated Edgar too, only to get killed by the Matador a couple of times. Had to quite playing to work on outdoor gardening which was calling my name quite relentlessly. The roses have taken their revenge by making me look like I went 10 rounds with Edgar!

Wellll-Hello there!
I too have been missing in action for a while-made it to Dr loboto's lab way at the top of the upper floors of the asylum- A real struggle to get up there-horrible attack rats that throw confusion bombs and tricky places to bounce/jump/swing to and easy to miss and eeeeewwwww@@@111 fall waaaay down to the bottom again.
I took rests in between and played a Nancy Drew game. Now I'm trying to get up courage for the next battle.

Good for you! I won my battle with the roses and have moved on to the other 6 perennial beds! I shall just to play vicariously through you for awhile yet, bigmamma!

Progress update:
I finally got past those pesky rats to the top of the asylum and got all the brains turned in. Got up the courage to try the tank battle for at least 1 round before giving up, but now I know what strategy to use,at least
I might add: I have played several RPGs with battles, but this one has by far the toughest and most frustrating battles and moves that I have ever seen.
This is going slowly because some days I'm playing another game-don't know if I'll ever finish his one.

I'm with you on this one, bigmamma. I've been doing a replay of Avencast and going back to this one now and then. I also have massive amounts of gardening that are keeping me away from my gaming for days at a time. Hopefully it will all let up soon and I can get back to Psychonauts in earnest.

I loved the game also, but I never finished it. It got to hard after a while. I may try it again.