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Buying new computer #658061
09/30/10 04:53 PM
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I am thinking of buying a new computer and like to play games on Big Fish and some Adventure games. I can't afford much more than $600. for a new laptop but want to know the minimum requirements that I should look for in order to play the games I like. Can anyone advise me. Is it impossible at that price? Thanks.


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Re: Buying new computer [Re: pres] #658092
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Check the video card requirements for the games you want to play. If you see a laptop you're interested in, find out what video card/graphics it uses and look up the capabilities of the video card here
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Most Big Fish games will play using Intel graphics, though they may have to be played windowed instead of full screen. But most adventure games will require an ATI or Nvidia card/chipset. Depending on the adventure games you want to play, and how much sluggishness you're willing to put up with, it may or may not be impossible to get what you want for $600. Most laptop video cards are designed to save battery life and are not good for games.

Re: Buying new computer [Re: Jenny100] #658099
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Thanks for your help.


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Re: Buying new computer [Re: pres] #658178
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Hi, Question...
Pres is by brother and sister-in-law who are trying to get new laptops-- I found this on the HP site-- would this work for them... they play Big fish and some adventure games--- Agathia and Sherlock for example thanks for comments
it is a HPdv6Z
Color black cherry edit
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor AMD Turion(TM) II Dual-Core Mobile Processor P540 (2.4GHz, 2MB L2 Cache) edit
Graphics card 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5470 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] edit
Memory FREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) edit
Hard drive 320GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
Office software Microsoft(R) Office Starter 2010 edit
Security software No additional security software edit
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 4.0 hours of battery life +++ edit
Display 15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Display (1366x768) edit
Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support edit
Personalization HP TrueVision Webcam and Digital Microphone edit
Networking Wireless 802.11b/g/n Card edit
Keyboard Standard Keyboard edit


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Re: Buying new computer [Re: Winfrey] #658204
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That's probably about as good as you'll find for $600. Graphics card 512 MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5470 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] should be OK as long as the 512MB is dedicated RAM and not shared.

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Thanks Jenny100 thumbsup


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Re: Buying new computer [Re: Winfrey] #658311
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Jenny here are the specs for that hd5470 mentioned above from the ATI site what do you think of it?


ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5470 GPU Specifications

* 292 million 40nm transistors
* TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
o 80 Stream Processing Units
o 8 Texture Units
o 16 Z/Stencil ROP Units
o 4 Color ROP Units
* GDDR5/DDR3 memory interface
* PCI Express 2.1 x16 bus interface
* DirectX® 11 support
o Shader Model 5.0
o DirectCompute 11
o Programmable hardware tessellation unit
o Accelerated multi-threading
o HDR texture compression
o Order-independent transparency
* OpenGL 3.2 support1
* Image quality enhancement technology
o Up to 12x multi-sample and super-sample anti-aliasing modes
o Adaptive anti-aliasing
o 16x angle independent anisotropic texture filtering
o 128-bit floating point HDR rendering
* ATI Eyefinity multi-display technology2,3
o Four independent display controllers
+ Drive up to four displays simultaneously with independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls, and video overlays
o Display grouping
+ Combine multiple displays to behave like a single large display
* ATI Stream acceleration technology6
o OpenCL support16
o DirectCompute 11
o Accelerated video encoding, transcoding, and upscaling4,5
+ Native support for common video encoding instructions
* ATI Avivo HD Video & Display technology6
o UVD 2 dedicated video playback accelerator
o Advanced post-processing and scaling7
o Dynamic contrast enhancement and color correction8
o Brighter whites processing (blue stretch)9
o Independent video gamma control9
o Dynamic video range control
o Support for H.264, VC-1, MPEG-2, and Adobe Flash10
o Dual-stream (HD+SD) playback support11,12
o DXVA 1.0 & 2.0 support
o Integrated dual-link DVI output with HDCP13
+ Max resolution: 2560x160014
o Integrated DisplayPort output
+ Max resolution: 2560x160014
o Integrated HDMI 1.3 output with Deep Color, xvYCC wide gamut support, and high bit-rate audio
+ Max resolution: 1920x120014
o Integrated VGA output
+ Max resolution: 2048x153614
o 3D stereoscopic display/glasses support15
o Integrated HD audio controller
+ Output protected high bit rate 7.1 channel surround sound over HDMI with no additional cables required
+ Supports AC-3, AAC, Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio formats
* ATI PowerPlay™ power management technology6
o Dynamic power management with low power idle state
* Certified drivers for Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP

Speeds & Feeds

* Engine clock speed: 750 MHz
* Processing power (single precision): 120 GigaFLOPS
* Polygon throughput: 750M polygons/sec
* Data fetch rate (32-bit): 24 billion fetches/sec
* Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 6 Gigatexels/sec
* Pixel fill rate: 3 Gigapixels/sec
* Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 12 Gigasamples/sec
* Memory clock speed: 900 MHz GDDR5 or DDR3
* Memory data rate: 3.2 Gbps GDDR5 or 1.6 Gbps DDR3
* Memory bandwidth: 25.6 GB/sec (GDDR5) or 12.8 GB/sec (DDR3)
* TDP: 15 Watts (GDDR5) or 13 Watts (DDR3)

1. Driver support scheduled for release in 2010.
2. Driver version 8.66 (Catalyst 9.10) or above is required to support ATI Eyefinity technology. Actual number of attachable monitors will vary by notebook model.
3. ATI Eyefinity technology works with games that support non-standard aspect ratios which is required for panning across multiple displays.
4. Requires application support for ATI Stream technology.
5. Digital rights management restrictions may apply.
6. ATI PowerPlay™, ATI Avivo™ and ATI Stream are technology platforms that include a broad set of capabilities offered by certain ATI Radeon™ HD GPUs. Not all products have all features and full enablement of some capabilities and may require complementary products.
7. Upscaling subject to available monitor resolution.
8. Not available with Blu-ray picture-in-picture.
9. May not be available for all desktop resolutions with Windows Aero enabled.
10. Adobe Flash video acceleration and post-processing is supported for H.264-encoded content. Requires Adobe Flash Player 10.1 plug-in and Catalyst 9.11 or higher.
11. Blu-ray or HD DVD drive and HD monitor required.
12. Requires Blu-ray movie disc supporting dual streams or picture-in-picture.
13. Playing HDCP content requires additional HDCP ready components, including but not limited to an HDCP ready monitor, Blu-ray or HD DVD disc drive, multimedia application and computer operating system.
14. Some custom resolutions require user configuration.
15. Requires 3D stereo drivers, glasses, and display.
16. OpenCL compliant driver and SDK release scheduled for later in 2010.

Performance, technologies and features listed above can vary with specific notebook implementations. Please consult with Notebook vendor for a complete list of supported features.

ATI Radeon™ HD graphics chips have numerous features integrated into the processor itself (e.g., HDCP, HDMI, etc.). Third parties manufacturing products based on, or incorporating ATI Radeon HD graphics chips, may choose to enable some or all of these features. If a particular feature is important to you, please inquire of the manufacturer if a particular product supports this feature. In addition, some features or technologies may require you to purchase additional components in order to make full use of them (e.g. a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD drive, HDCP-ready monitor, etc.).

Re: Buying new computer [Re: oldmariner] #658313
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I was looking at your lap top I'd suggest spending the extra $30 and get the 9 cell battery. That 6 cell can be pretty lame. The cost of batteries that 9 cell for $30 upgrade is not bad.

Re: Buying new computer [Re: oldmariner] #658378
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According to the folks at Notebook Check -

The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 is an entry-level / lower middle class DirectX 11 graphics card for laptops. ...


Due to the higher clock rate (and GDDR5 support), the 3D gaming performance should be above the HD 4570 (predecessor with same TDP range). Therefore, all current games should be playable in low-medium details. Demanding games, like Crysis, NFS Shift, or Modern Warfare ran on the HD 4570 for example only in low detail settings fluently. Less demanding games like Left 4 Dead should run in high detail settings.

The memory interface of the Mobility 5470 is composed out of one 64 bit wide controller that can access DDR3 or GDDR5 memory. If GDDR5 is used by the laptop vendor the performance should be noticeably better.


ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470

Both ATI and Notebook Check recommend GDDR5 - the processor doesn't appear to support Shared Memory, so that shouldn't be an issue.

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