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Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 #699547
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Here is the latest news on Syberia 3 based on an interview with Benoit Sokal here.

Here is the excerpt regarding Syberia 3, translated with an online translator:

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Finally, dear reader, you need to think about Syberia 3, project which we hear more and more and, the latest news, had to leave early 2012. Well get ready for a big slap: for the moment nothing was launched about Syberia 3! Indeed, Anuman Interactive intends to develop this game along with Benoît Sokal is interested in this project, but the eternal problem of the lack of investment block its implementation. For Benoît Sokal, Syberia 3 can not reuse the same technologies as Syberia 1 or Syberia 2, because although this would satisfy fans of adventure games pure and hard, the antiquity of these technologies would lead to a commercial flop. Syberia 3, Benoît Sokal is splendid and 3D graphics. To get an idea, Sokal spoke to wire the graphics as breathtaking as the Assassin's Creed game. However, such a realization requires a very consequent budget, so far out of reach. Nothing therefore still did for Syberia 3, not even a beginning of scenario. "Syberia 3 is not for the forseeable future", summarized Benoît Sokal. Conclusion: probably should be very patient to find Kate Walker in a new adventure... Unless she continue her adventures in comic or movie...


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Not what I wanted to hear but thanks for the info Ana.


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Who buys his games but the "pure and hard" adventure gamers? Yes, the antique technologies in Syberia I and II would satisfy almost anyone looking for an outstanding game like either of those.

I doubt that the commercial possibilities, by which I assume he means making the games playable on Nintendo, et al, are very great unless he has plans to have Kate mow down her enemies with an AK-47 in glorious 3D and in timed sequences.

Pardon me, perhaps something was lost in the translation, but it sounds as if he's being a prima donna or Anuman is being foolishly obstructive.

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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: traveler] #699591
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You know, they should just take up a collection. Or ask fans to buy into it or something. I don't know how that would work, but I'd be willing to contribute to get it off the ground, little money that I have. Seriously.


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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: traveler] #699592
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I agree Trav...I would be more than satisfied with the old "technology" and I'm sure most real adventure fans would be. Hey, I'm all for updated technology, but I still love the "old" techs... sometimes more than the new techs. All it means to me is "money", if you use new technology then us old adventurers will have to get an updated machine. Mine is not that old, but I'm sure that some of the new stuff coming out soon will be too tough for mine. Bah Humbug, Benoit... get with the program. hardwall

Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: jody319] #699595
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Traveler and jody, I agree with both of you. While I would love a Syberia with the latest graphics, this is most likely not practical, and the older Syberias are still some of the most beautiful games I've played irregardless of technology. I really don't think Syberia fans would complain. Too bad. frown


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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: venus] #699618
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Quite frankly, I don't understand the desire to "upgrade" pc games to 3D. Does everything have to look as real as the view out our windows? Can't we appreciate real graphic artistry?

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I liked the game engine the way it was also. I still think the graphics are spectacular.

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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #699665
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Me to Ana. That's what made Syberia so great!


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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: blsbet44] #699785
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You know, I'm glad I started games when they were still new and going through all of their different phases. I remember how amazed I was when I played KQ 5 for the first time and thought the graphics were so beautiful. And they still are.

When I first saw The Longest Journey and Syberia, I was even more blown away. I couldn't believe how detailed graphics had become. Granted, graphics have come even farther since then, but I still don't think that TLJ and Syberia look "old." They still look shiny and new to me. lol I generally don't understand complaints about "bad" graphics. Gray Matter, for example, looks absolutely beautiful to me, and I don't understand how anyone could find fault with its graphics. (Well, okay, from what I've seen from brief glimpses on YouTube, the dialogue portraits do look a little odd, but I always turn subtitles off anyway. wink )

Guess I'm just of the wrong generation to understand. lol


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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: venus] #699790
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I, too, likes the Syberia game engine; it is an OK engine, I find for adventure games. I can't understand why Sokal wants graphics a la Assasin's Creed? Probably Sokal wants a full 3D engine? If he does, I can sort of understand if it means that something in the game's design can't be made or done without the game in full 3D.
However, I still find the graphics, or more correctly the art design in the Syberia games, and Nikopol etc. to be some of the best in the adventure game genre.


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Re: Syberia 3 Update - Feb 2011 [Re: Karsten] #699904
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Thanks Ana for the info. From what I can glean, that to produce syberia 3 using the same technology as the first two would not bring enough remuneration to make it as there would not be enough investment in the game engine.

To put things into perspective, I think it has to be considered that the first two games were also produced on consol as well as PC & possibly did better than most AGs because of it. So if Benoit Sokal is considering making a 3rd he has to consider the advance in graphics expected by consol players. I haven't myself played Assassins Creed but I have watched parts of the game played by someone else & this was a few years ago! The graphics were outstanding - particularly the movement of characters which was so fluid & natural - I remember thinking at the time how wonderful it would be to have AGs made with this level of technology.

I've played AGs with very basic graphical styles which I've thought were superb & will always try them. But I do prefer better graphics for the more realistic & immersive worlds - many AGs have achieved this on an environment level but never the movement of characters up to the standard of a game like Assassins Creed.

So I can see why Syberia 3 may have to be a little different - all I ask is please include a very easy option! smile

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Sorry to here this news. Syberia 1&2 were my introduction to video gaming...what a start! Very near and dear to my heart. Superb graphics, great storyline, adventure gaming at its best. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but sometimes moving forward to fast is not in the best interest of all. As an example, I'm still experiencing unresolved compatability issues on Windows 7, even if the software developers say it is hardware compatible. Seems basic, yet problems prevail. Even without the latest and greatest 3D genre, Benoit Sokal is a master in his field!

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It's too bad the possibility of a Syberia 3 is so near zero. I really enjoyed the artwork and game play of 1 & 2. It's almost like saying that since the motorcycle was invented, no one will want to ride a bicycle, and we'll make more money on motorcycles, so let's stop making bicycles. The experiences are completely different and there will always be a demand for both.

Also, when I play a game with newer graphics on my laptop, the microprocessor generates a lot of heat and the fan goes into it's highest, loudest mode...very distracting.

I wonder if you estimated how many PC adventure gamers could be counted on to buy the game, designed with older technology, at a given price, would the budget and profit motivation be enough to be practical? Maybe assume downloads only at first, to reduce cost? Or are our numbers just not high enough?


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Thanks, Ana

I agree with everyone....keep the old game engine...It was just "Beautiful" Enough for me..

"Please" Benoit Sokal take a look at what people are saying...


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Ergggo -- all interesting questions! It would be fascinating to find out how well, for instance, Lost Horizon has been selling, since it is about as Syberia-like as a game gets in these later days.

I also suspect (though I don't know for sure, of course) that if the sales of Gray Matter are stellar, developers will talk more seriously creating more 2.5D adventure games.

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Becky, I would love it if that happened for Gray Matter. yes


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I don't think Sokal is interested in making Syberia 3. I think he's interested in working with 3D graphics, and if the only way he'll have access to a top-of-the-line 3D graphics engine is by continuing the Syberia story, he's willing to do so.

It's not about sales or money. That's just an excuse -- and not even a good one. We all know 3D graphics do not make an adventure game better, or make it sell better. 3D graphics didn't help with Broken Sword 3 and they didn't help with Dreamfall. Both of those games lost money.

Benoit Sokal is an artist and right now he's interested in the artistic possibilities of 3D graphics. If he has to work with 2.5D again, he'll do it with something other than Syberia. Unless he can experiment with 3D graphics while making it, Syberia holds no artistic interest for him.

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I don't get the whole thing about the graphics. I failed to see any difference in Dreamfall's graphics than Syberia's. I just know I liked the games!

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Jenny, I think you hit the nail on the head.

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It is going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. 3D graphics or not it would be hard to make a game more beautiful than Syberia.


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Just my opinion, but I don't think it's going to ever happen. If they were interested, it would have been done already. I'll happily eat my words if they do, but I'm pretty sure I won't have to.

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This is so heart breaking to me cry.

I loved playing the Syberia games hearts.

I thought Syberia grapics was beautiful

enough thumbsup.

A 3rd one with the same graphics as the others

will do just fine and sale great thumbsup.

But I guess they have other ideas, too bad smirk.

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