Hey everyone.

Maybe I can get some tech help here on this one.

I'm trying to load up & play and oldie but goodie: "Azrael's Tear".

I have both of the programs D-Fend Reloaded and DOSBox v 0.74.

I've used D-Fend to run some old DOS games before.

As far as DOSBox goes, I was at the site ( http://www.dosbox.com/ ), and it claims that Azrael's Tear can run just fine on it (the site has categories of "Runnable", "Playable", and "Supported"; Azrael is "Supported").

And if it can run on DOSBox, it can usually run even more smoothly on D-Fend (and D-Fend seems to be easier to use!!!).

Even on your web site here I followed some suggestions on the DOSBox FAQ ( http://www.gameboomers.com/Members/dosboxfaq.html ).

Usually it's easier for me to get an old DOS game to run on D-Fend than on DOSBox, but I couldn't get it to run on D-Fend. Somehow I was able to get the game installed using DOSBox, not D-Fend.

After the installation, I was able to launch and play the game for a bit......but after exiting the game.....I couldn't get it to launch/ play again

I have Windows 7 Ultimate, in case you need to know.

And, I have my hard drive split into 2 partitions: "C" and "D", so, this has my DVD ROM drive assigned to letter "E". When following your DOSBox FAQ here on this site, I had to make an adjustment in the dosbox configuration file in the autoexec section.

Anyone have any technical expertise here on getting Azrael's Tear to run using either D-Fend or DOSBox.

When I had it running briefly after installing it using DOSBox, it looked cool and was running pretty good! A little fast, but that can be adjusted & slowed down using certain key commands.

So.....anybody? Any info?

Thanks!
Pez

My experience with DOSBox is minimal. Inland and others who help out in Glitches have far more experience than I do.

However I can tell you that D-Fend Reloaded is only a front end for DOSBox and not a separate program.

Also the game that's running inside DOSBox will not see your DVD drive as E: unless you mount it as E: in DOSBox. For example,

mount E E:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
should mount your E: drive as E: while

mount D E:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
will mount your CD drive as D:

If D-Fend Reloaded is seeing your CD drive as E: and the game is seeing it as D:, or vice versa, that could be causing a problem.

Hi Jenny; thanks for the reply.

If I use DOSBox (and not the actual D-Fend program), here's what my DOSBox configuration file looks like under the autoexec part:

[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
mount E E:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
mount D D:\
D:

Is this wrong?

The game actually got installed to my "C" drive, so it's in: C:\AZRAEL

I know that some real old DOS-based games were very particular; the game HAD to be installed to your "C" drive and nowhere else, and your CD drive HAD to be "D".

Remember: My hard drive is split into 2 partitions: "C" and "D". So, kind of by default, my DVD ROM drive is labeled "E".

Maybe like you mentioned, Inland or someone else will come along and put in their two cents.

Thanks for any more help; I'd sure like to get Azrael up & running, whether by using DOSBox or D-Fend :-)
Pez

Are you mounting your C: partition anywhere?
It looks like you mounted your D: partition (which doesn't have the game on it) but didn't mount C: (or a folder on C:). Unless you want to install the game on D: there's no reason to mount D: at all.

In Inferno's DOSBox FAQ she had these lines:


If your game needs the CD drive to be D:, you'd change the drive letter on the CD line:

[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
mount D E:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
mount C C:\
C:

When you say "mount D E:\" you're telling DOSBox to mount your E: drive as D:, so the game will see the CD drive as D: when played from DOSBox.

However you might have to reinstall the game from inside DOSBox to get it to recognize the CD drive.

I've played the game under DOSBox, follow Jenny's advice and mount your CD drive as "D" (physical E to virtual D) - it should work just fine.

The commands don't have to be entered in the autoexec section - you can manually type them into the console.

Hi Jenny & InlandAZ; thanks for the replies.

Jenny: figuring that I may have installed the game "incorrectly" by "pointing" things in the wrong direction, I deleted the installation and started again from scratch.

After installing Azrael using DOSBox, this game offers to play the game right away by typing in, "AZRAEL".....so I do, and the game launches just fine! So I play it for a bit, even using those handy commands of Ctrl-F11 and Ctrl-F12 to slow down or speed things up (it's an old game and is running too fast on my current PC).

But.....after exiting the game and then trying to re-launch it later.....no luck.

InlandAZ: You've played this game yourself using DOSBox?

And yes, I do understand what you mean by saying that the commands don't have to be entered in manually in the autoexec section (and instead be typed in to the console); I just thought it would be handy to have it always entered in there and that way....I can launch the game more quickly.

So if you could, tell you what:

I'll remind you of my computer's setup, and if you would be so kind, tell me exactly what to type in into DOSBox (whether it's in the autoexec section, or into the console).

My setup:

SATA HDD split into two (2) partitions: "C" & "D"

DVD ROM drive is "E"

So.....precisely what do I type into DOSBox? Please give me the exact wordage including "mount".

Thanks, I appreciate this!!
Pez

P.S. And if it would make it any easier, would giving me the instructions for D-Fend Reloaded be better??

Because you're mounting "C" as "C:\" the game would have created a sub directory off your physical C drive. So... each time you start the game you'll need to enter a change directory command into the DOSBox console.

Like so -

mount D E:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
mount C C:\
C:
CD AZRAEL

Or, change the 2nd line of your autoexec section to read:

mount C C:\AZRAEL

InlandAZ:

That did it!! I added that line of:
CD AZRAEL

Although.....I can't really say as I understand it :-)

What does adding those letters of "CD" mean?

"C" is my primary drive, correct? What does the "D" mean?

Even though I don't really understand WHY it worked, I'm glad it did and am playing it now! An oldie but goodie!!
Pez

CD means Change Directory.
A Directory is the same as a Folder.

When you run a game in DOS, you have to do it from the directory where the game is installed or DOS doesn't know what you are talking about.