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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94786
06/29/03 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Becky:
But that's NOT what you expect from, say movies. Usually the sequels are not as good as the original even when the budget for the sequel is higher.

I wonder why games would be different. Maybe the technology changes so quickly for games that graphics in sequels are automatically a lot better? Or maybe the original games can no longer be easily played on current computers so not as many people CAN play them? Or maybe the industry is so new that the original games made mistakes that now, a few years later seem obvious?
I agree - movie sequels are often worse, with a few exceptions... But then the gaming industry has always responded well to player feedbacks, while I have never been aware of any movie makers out there that personally talk to the actual viewers and get his/her direct opinion... perhaps that's the reason why?

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94787
06/29/03 11:22 PM
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Here is my list.I don't have very many of the newer games yet as I still have a lot of the games from last years twisty list waiting to be played.

Legacy of Time Still my favorite
Myst
Riven
Beyond Atlantas
Blackstone Chronicles
Ring
Sanitarium
Dracula Last Sanctuary
Amerzone
Riddle of the Sphinx
Broken Sword 1
Gabriel Knight 1
The Curse of Monkey Island
Zork Nemisis
Broken Sword 2

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94788
06/29/03 11:28 PM
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Sigh....
I dislike doing this, forcing myself to choose 15. However, more entries -> a more accurate rating of top games so here goes:

Dark Fall
Neverhood
Syberia
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Sanitarium
GK2
The Longest Journey
Grim Fandango
Riven
Myst/RealMyst
Black Dahlia
Tex Murphy: Pandora Directive
Sherlock Holmes: Case of the Rose Tattoo
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
Rhem

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94789
06/30/03 01:55 AM
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Hi,
Detailed analysis thumbsup

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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94790
06/30/03 05:08 PM
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I should just put like 30 names in a hat and draw out 15. This is SO hard.

Myst
Osidian
Riven
Zork the Grand Inquisitor
Timelapse
Syberia
Darkfall
Amber
Shivers
Riddle of the Sphinx
The Dig

These last four, I can't remember the earlier ones in the series well enough to be able to pick which one I liked the best. So, just add my one vote to whichever comes up with the most votes. Hope this isn't cheating):

Journeyman Project
Gabriel Knight
Tex Murphy
Atlantis

Thanks again, Flotsam, for all your hard work!

Dang! I can't believe I left Obsidian out. So, Flotsam, there is a change here. In Osbisian out Lighthouse.
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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94791
06/30/03 08:39 PM
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realMyst
Riven
Myst Exile
Syberia
The Blackstone Chronicles
Ripper
Sanitarium
GK2 The Beast Within
Morpheus
Dark Fall
Zork Nemesis
Amerzone
Secrets of the Luxor
Phantasmagoria
Shivers

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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94792
07/02/03 07:08 AM
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Thanks for putting this together Flotsam smile

The Longest Journey
The Crystal Skull
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Syberia
Tex Murphy Overseer
Discworld Noir (was Nightlong, sorry)
Curse of Monkey Island
Amerzone
Dracula Ressurrection
Faust (Seven Games for the Soul)
Grim Fandango
Nancy Drew Ghost Dogs of Moon Lake
Magnetic
Myst Exile
Lighthouse

Too bad for Isabelle, Flotsam. I don't many people who (whom?) even own it. I still need to purchase it as the reviews on it sounded interesting but haven't a clue where.

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94793
07/02/03 07:53 AM
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Quote:
The key is to list the 15 games that you would recommend to someone to play in this day and age.
This implies (to me) that the person is a newcomer. Again, it's tough to choose just 15.

Curse of Monkey Island
Torrin's Passage
Syberia
Obsidian
Zork Nemesis
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Grim Fandango
Longest Journey
Neverhood
Myst III: Exile
Lighthouse
Faust
Timelapse
Amerzone
Safecracker

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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94794
07/02/03 02:41 PM
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My top-15, in no particular order (although the best ones tend to come up higher in the list):

Obsidian
Longest Journey
Grim Fandango
Zork Nemesis
Riven
Syberia
Neverhood Chronicles
Death Gate
Exile
RealMyst
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Schizm
Amerzone
Pandora Directive
Sanitarium

Looking forward to the resulting list!

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94795
07/02/03 07:19 PM
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1 Syberia
2 Ripper
3 The Longest Journey
4 Black Stone Chronicles
5 The Last Express
6 The Dark Side of the Moon
7 Broken Sword 1
8 Broken Sword 2
9 Sanitarium
10 Gabriel Knight 1
11 Gabriel Knight 2
12 Gabriel Knight 3
13 Beyond Atlantis 1
14 Beyond Atlantis 2
15 Tex Murphy: Under a Killing Moon

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94796
07/03/03 08:38 PM
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my 15 games. couldn't play syberia on my computer..so i can't put this one on the list
most of them will be the smae as last year.

1. the longest journey
2. gabriel knight 1
3. king's quest 6
4. sanitarium
5. blackstone chronicles
6. gabriel knight 2
7. king's quest 7
8. tiny tough
9. gabriel knight 3
10. ark of time
11. broken sword 2
12. king's quest 5
13. gilbert goodmate
14. nightlong
15. broken sword 1


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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94797
07/03/03 08:39 PM
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Thanks Flotsam for doing this again!

1. Syberia
2. The Longest Journey
3. Timelapse
4. Black Dahlia
5. Myst
6. Riven
7. Exile
8. Amerzone
9. Shivers
10. Riddle of the Sphinx
11. Beyond Atlantis
12. Atlantis III
13. Dracula Resurrection
14. Road to India
15. Gabriel Knight 2

I have a feeling that Syberia will win this year.
Sequoia

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94798
07/03/03 10:07 PM
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Okay,
this will be hard from the memory stand point only! happydance
Ghost Master waiting on Patch-due soon
Waiting for Riftrunner and DD2 happydance
Summoner waiting for me


playing DS2, Oblivion and WoW
Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94799
07/03/03 10:26 PM
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Hi smile

Thanks for the chance to contribute.
Can't remember whether I entered any for last year's list....Heck....Can't remember what I did ten minutes ago !! lol

Cheers.

Mad wave

1. Gabriel Knight 1
2. Gabriel Knight 2
3. Monkey island 1
4. Monkey Island 2
5. Broken sword 1
6. Broken sword 2
7. Discworld 1
8. Discworld 2
9. Simon 1
10. Kings Quest 6
11. Tex - Under a Killing Moon
12. Journeyman - Legacy of Time
13. Return to Zork
14. S.H. - Case of the Rose Tattoo
15. Indy - Fate of Atlantis


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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94800
07/04/03 03:03 AM
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Hi there,
Its neck and neck between Syberia and TLJ.
We will finish next weekend, so one week to go.

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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94801
07/04/03 08:08 AM
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Here are my 15-with input from my two boys (not in any order):
1. The Omega Stone
2. Riddle of the Sphynx
3. Phantasmagoria 1
4. Sanitarium
5. Inherent Evil
6. Traitors Gate
7. CSI
8. I have no mouth....
9. Sherlock Holmes Mystery of the mummy
10. Syberia
11. Cameron Files-Pharoah's Curse
12. Blackstone Chronicles
13. Black Dhalia
14. Amerzone
15. Beyond Atlantis II


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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94802
07/04/03 10:57 PM
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In no particular order:
1. Byzantine
2. Amerzone
3. Morpheous
4. Riven
5. GK The Beast Within
6. GK Blood of the Damned
7. GK Sins of the Father
8. Siberia
9. Dark Fall
10. Myst
11. Myst Exile
12. Broken Sword -Shadow of the Templars
13. Broken Sword - Smoking Mirror
14. Nancy Drew - Secret of the Scarlet Hand
15. Zork Nemesis


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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94803
07/06/03 03:39 AM
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Here's my list (in no particular order):

1. Grim Fandango
2. Blade Runner
3. Disc World Noir
4. GK 1 – Sins of the Father
5. GK 2 – The Beast Within
6. Broken Sword 1
7. The Uncertainty Machine
8. Black Dahlia
9. Curse of Monkey Island
10. Amber
11. Dark Fall
12. The Longest Journey
13. Zork GI
14. Simon the Sorcerer 1
15. Sanitarium

Every year this gets harder and harder to do since I've been lucky to have played so many great games over the years!

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94804
07/06/03 10:37 AM
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Here are my choices:
Monkey Island 1,2,3,4
Discworld 1,2
Simon the Sorcerer 1,2
The Longest Journey
Syberia
Gabriel Knight 2
Circle of Blood
Day of the Tenacle
Dracula Last Sanctuary
Fable

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94805
07/07/03 02:42 AM
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Still no clear number 1.
I will post final results Sunday afternoon my time. I will try and remember to do a reminder post 24 hrs prior to the end.

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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94806
07/07/03 03:37 PM
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Here is my list, I hope it's not too late,:

Gabriel Knight 2
Riven
Black Dahlia
Gabriel Knight 1
Gabriel Knight 3
Broken Sword 1
Broken Sword 2
Syberia
Dark Fall
Byzantine
The Longest Journey
Grim Fandango
Atlantis 2
Riddle of the Sphinx
Pandoras Box

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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94807
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In order played (with 3 new ones in the past year replacing 3 previous ones):

Myst
Last Express
Zork Nemesis
Sanitarium
Riven
Titanic:Adventure out of Time
Tex Murphy:Pandora Directive
Grim Fandango
Traitors Gate
Longest Journey
Dame was Loaded
Byzantine
Gabriel Knight 2 - Beast Within
Blade Runner
Discworld Noir

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94808
07/08/03 11:09 AM
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Here's mine

Morpheus
Grim Fandango
Riven
Zork Nemesis
Legacy of Time
Amber
Darkfall
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Myst
Buried in Time
Obsidian
Bad Mojo
Riddle of Master Lu
Sam and Max
Sanitarium

Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94809
07/08/03 01:22 PM
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My List......
In no order.....
-Myst
-Riven
-Exile
-Sanitruium
-Post Mortem
-Darkfall
-Rhem
-Discworld Noir
-The Watchmaker
-Zork Grand Inquisitor
-Zork Nemesis
-Return to Zork
-Syberia
-The Longest Journey
-Realms of the Haunting (ROTH)
Plus maybe another 25 more that I would play but not in my top fifteen. Talk about hard.
Hanksdog happydance


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Re: 2003 the list more twisty #94810
07/10/03 08:27 PM
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I have been avoiding this thread since I didn't think I could whittle my list down to 15, but after ruthlessly slashing with my red pencil, here goes:

Riven
Real Myst
Schizm
Syberia
GK3
GK2
Amerzone
Dracula Resurrection
Timelapse
Myst III: Exile
Dark Fall
Lighthouse
Grim Fandango
Beyond Atlantis (Atlantis II)
Riddle of the Sphinx

I really, really wanted to put Magnetic on my list, but since it is a game of puzzles, (and very ingenious ones), it seemed to be in a category by itself, and I just had to leave it off. <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />

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