The Dark Side list 2010

Hi all,
Those that have been hiding in the shadows for a while know what this list is about, but for newer shady types, the aim of this list is simple - 13 days to list 13 Dark Side games that other people should play. Its a list for everyone - newbies, dabblers and veterans. Its about helping answer the question "what should I play next?".
There are rules, and after consulting the oracle and some chicken entrails (plus some darkling GBers) there is a change to the rules this year concerning expansion packs. The rationale for the change is in this thread if you want to check it out.
So what are the rules?

1. You can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but you can recommend less.
2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game.
3. Expansion packs, DLC, GOTY releases etc are all considered the same game - just vote for eg Fallout 3 and ignore all its available added on bits.
4. Consistent with 3, enhanced editions, directors cuts etc are also considered the same game.
5. Any "dark" game (ie not pure adventure or casual) can be listed, irrespective of genre.
6. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 rpg's if you choose.
7. It is essentially a pc list (the system not the games), but given that many players have consoles as well, if you want to list some games for the console go ahead.

If you can list alphabetically it helps me count, and please use full names, as I am not as familiar with titles over here. If I get confused, I will seek help.
Now, who is first?

Thanks Flotsam.....and now Let the Games (listings) Begin

I'll start!

American McGee's Alice
F.E.A.R.
Clive Barker's Undying
Deus Ex
Penumbra Overture
Silent Hill
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill 3


Thanks flotsam!

Fallout 3
Undying
Tomb Raider
Fatal Frame
American McGee's Alice
Nocturne
System Shock 2
Thief: The Dark Project
Alone in the Dark
Blair Witch Volume 1: Rustin Parr
Blood II: The Chosen
Half Life

Baldur’s Gate
Betrayal in Antara
Divine Divinity
King’s Bounty : The Legend
King’s Bounty : Armored Princess
Might & Magic : The Mandate of Heaven
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Planescape Torment
Return to Krondor
Star Wars : Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars : Knights of the Old republic : The Sith Lords
The Witcher

Mad

I am going to have a go

American Magee's Alice
Bioshock
Divine Divinity
Fallout 3
FEAR
Half LIfe 2
Ico
Oblivion
Outcast
Realms of the Haunting
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Twinsun's Odyssey
The Witcher

Here's my list:

Baldur's Gate
Bioshock
Dragon Age: Origins
Fallout
FEAR
Halo - Combat Evolved
Might and Magic 6 - The Mandate of Heaven
Morrowind
Oblivion
Planescape: Torment
Portal
Stalker - Shadow of Chernobyl
The Witcher

And thank you Flotsam for doing this

Thanks, flotsam.

Let us know your favorites, Boomers!

My List:

Diablo II
Divine Divinity
Divinity II Ego Draconis
Dragon Age Origins
Drakensang
Dungeon Siege
Loki
Risen
Sacred II
The Witcher
Oblivion

Heidi

The Witcher
Drakensang
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Morrowind
Legendary
Legend Hand of God
Half Life 2
Neverwinter Nights
Prince of Persia
Clive Barker's Undying
Clive Barker's Jericho
Unreal
Condemned

Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura
Divine Divinity
Lands of Lore
Lands of Lore 3
Morrowind
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
System Shock 2
The Witcher

Here is my small list, I hope next year it'll be bigger!

Beyond Good and Evil
Dragon's Age
Fable - The Lost Chapters
Fate
Oblivion
Titan's Quest - The Immortal Throne
The Witcher
Zanzarah

Thanks Flotsam, I've been looking forward to this!

1. Thief Gold
2. Thief 2
3. Baldur's Gate 2
4. Gothic
5. Gothic 2 Gold
6. Dragon Age
7. Mass Effect 2
8. Morrowind
9. Witcher
10. Star Wars KOTOR 1
11. Star Wars KOTOR 2
12. Vampire Bloodlines
13. Deus Ex (the original game)

I love the Dark Side list. Thank you!

Bioshock
Borderlands
Dragon Age: Origins
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Half Life
Half Life 2
Mass Effect
Neverwinter Nights
Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic
Team Fortress 2
Trine
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines
The Witcher

And my very short list

Fable - The Lost Chapters
Fallout 3
Morrowind
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines

Dead Space
F.E.A.R.
F.E.A.R. 2
Half Life 2
Kill Zone 2
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
Resident Evil 5
Resistance
Resistance 2
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Uncharted 2: among thieves

Vampire the Masquerade Redemption
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Gothic
Gothic II
Might & Magic 7
Might & Magic 6
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill 3
Undying
Dark Messiah of Might & Magic
Bioshock

1. Oblivion
2. Heavenly Sword
3. Jericho
4. Resident Evil 1
5. Resident Evil 2
6. Killzone 1
7. Killzone 2
8. Resident Evil 5
9. Devil May Cry 4
10. God of War
11. Overlord raising hell
12. Call of Duty world at war
13. Gran Turismo 5 prologue
Edit: I made a terrible mistake. Numbers 4 and 5 should be Resistance 1 and Resistance 2.

Well here's mine and Witcher is still number 1 for me.

Betrayal At Krondor (Because GOG has it now.)
Divine Divinity
Dragon Age Origins
KOTOR 1
KOTOR 2
Morrowind
Oblivion
Sacred
Sacred 2
Tomb Raider Underworld
Two Worlds
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Witcher

and mine


Brothers in arms road to hill 30
Fallout 3
Far cry
Farcry 2
Halflife 2
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
No one lives forever 2
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hunter 3
Stalker shadow of chernoble
Stalker clear sky
Vampire masquerade bloodlines

Thanks David

Guild Wars: Prophecies
Guild Wars: Factions
Guild Wars: Nightfall
Guild Wars: Eye of the North

First four are stand alone campaigns, fourth is expansion pack which requires creating a character in one of the other three.

Thanks for doing the list, Flotsam and L4L.

Batman: Arkham Asylum
Bioshock
Dragon Age: Origins
God of War 3
Heavenly Sword
Heavy Rain
Infamous
Patapon
Plants vs Zombies
Resident Evil 5
Trine
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
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I wanted to add some new ones so unfortunately 'Assassin's Creed' and 'Sims 3' Couldn't make it to top 13.

1.Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
2.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
3.Lego Harry Potter Year 1-4
4.Morrowind
5.Oblivion
6.Super Princess Peach (DS)

Thank you Flotsam, I love these lists.

Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate II - Shadow's of Amn
Diablo II
Dragon's Age - Origins
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Oblivion
Witcher

Hi everyone

Morrowind - far and away the greatest game I have ever played.
Baldur's Gate 2
Deus Ex
Drakensang
Dragon Age
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Football Manager 2010
Gothic
Gothic 2
Risen
Stalker - SoC
Vampire - Bloodlines
The Witcher

I will do an interim count Saturday and post some shady insights!

"shady insights" !!

Love it

Dragon Age Origins
Fable The Lost Chapters
Gothic
Gothic 2
Gothic 3
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Order of The Phoenix
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Oblivion
Risen
The Witcher Enhanced

Thanks flotsam

American McGees Alice
Clive Barkers Undying
Drakan: Order of the Flame
Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom
Fear
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb
Painkiller
Roller Coaster Tycoon 3
The Settlers 4
The Sims 2
Tomb Raider Underworld
Tomb Raider Legend

1. F.E.A.R
2. Morrowind
3. Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor
4. Might and Magic VIII: Day of the Destroyer
5. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
6. Baldur's Gate II: Shadow's of Amn
7. Lands of Lore II: Guardians of Destiny
8. Clive Barker's Jericho
9. Thief Gold
10. Thief II: The Metal Age
11. KotOR II: The Sith Lords
12. Return to Castle Wolfenstein
13. Hexen II

On a quick count, its Witcher leading from Morrowind and Oblivion.
Super Princess Peach has the most intriguing name (clearly must be a horror slayer-fest
One query - is Overlord Raising Hell an expansion?

ps - i will be in jakarta for a week with work from tomorrow so won't be able to post more till next Saturday. I will give a 24 hour reminder when I get back, and post the results Sunday my time.

Beyond Good and Evil
Deus Ex (original game)
Fallout 3
Half Life
Heavy Rain
Ico
Mass Effect 2
Oblivion
Resident Evil 2
Tomb Raider
Uncharted 1
Uncharted 2
Witcher (enhanced edition)

Best Game ever in my list: Uncharted 2

Outcast
The Witcher
Divine Divinity
Morrowind
Oblivion
Gothic I
Gothic II
Risen
Star Wars KOTOR I
Anachronox
Planescape Torment
Sacred
Vampire The Masquerade - Redemption

Flotsam - your world sounds so exciting - so different from here.
RE Overlord Raising Hell: It is a regular game by itself. As far as I can tell is between Overlord 1 and 2. I'm reading from the game. You control a horde of minions and become the overlord and lots of humor throughout. The game starts with a little synapsis of the previous one.

American McGees Alice
Beyond Divinity
Bioshock
Bioshock 2
Clive Barkers Undying
Divine Divinity
Drakan: Order of the Flame
Fable
F.E.A.R
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition
Prey
Sacred Plus
Zanzarah

Bioshock
Dragon Age
Gothic II
Knights of the Old Republic
Mass Effect
No One Lives Forever
Okami [Wii]
Planescape: Torment
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
Oblivion
Witcher
Thief: Deadly Shadows (Thief III)
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines

Only change this year was to add Dragon Age, which bumped off Psychonauts for me.

Tomb Raider Anniversary
Tomb Raider UnderWorld
Tomb Raider Last Revelation
Tomb Raider Legend
Tomb Raider Chronicles
Can you tell I love TR Games!

Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate II
Divine Divinity
Gothic I
Gothic II
Gothic III
Morrowind
Two Worlds
Oblivion
Sacred 2

shady insights? Can someone tell me where there is a demo or description of the game? I am interested in seeing why Mad you voted for it.

1. Witcher enhanced edition
2. Dragon Age
3. Sacred plus
4 Sacred
5. Silver Lining

"shady insights? Can someone tell me where there is a demo or description of the game? I am interested in seeing why Mad you voted for it."

Sherryah ???? I didn't vote for anything called "shady insights". Cheers. Mad

Mad, that is so funny I thought that was your vote and it was a new game.

Sorry I misunderstood your post, Now I see that you were commenting on another post. Duh I think I need to rest my brain it must be overworked.

Not to worry, Sherryah
I'd have to find my brain before I could even begin to tell if it was overworked !!

I am back, and am no longer sleep deprived
Will do the count today and will post final lists in 24 hours, so you have a last window if you want to contribute.


ps - having gone through the lists, I am going to count Sacred and Sacred Plus as the same game, given the expansion pack "rule". If you voted for both, and want to add another game, post the alternative game below this post (don't edit your original post - I will miss it).

Hi all
Its done and dusted for another year. No change in the number 1, but it was closer than I thought it might be.
As always, two lists follow - a numeric and an alphabetical.
Apologies in advance for any errors. Hopefully they are minimal.
cya

15 The Witcher
14 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
13 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
12 Dragon Age: Origins
9 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
8 Divine Divinity
8 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
7 Bioshock
7 F.E.A.R.
7 Gothic 2
6 Clive Barker’s Undying
6 Gothic
5 American Magee’s Alice
5 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
5 Fallout 3
5 Half Life 2
5 Mass Effect
5 Mass Effect 2
4 Baldur’s Gate
4 Deus Ex
4 Fable: The Lost Chapters
4 Neverwinter Nights
4 Planescape Torment
4 Risen
4 Sacred
4 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords
4 Tomb Raider: The last Revelation
3 Clive Barker’s Jericho
3 Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
3 Drakensang
3 Half Life
3 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
3 Resident Evil 5
3 Sacred 2
3 Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
3 S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
3 Thief: The Dark Project
3 Tomb Raider: Underworld
3 Unchartered: Drake’s Fortune
3 Unchartered 2: Among Thieves

2 Beyond Good and Evil, Diablo 2, Drakan: Order of the Flame, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Heavenly Sword, Ico, Killzone 2, Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour, Outcast, Resistance, Resistance 2, Silent Hill 3, System Shock 2, Thief 2: The Metal Age, Tomb Raider: Legend, Trine, Two Worlds, Vampire Masquerade: Redemption, Zanzarah

1 Anachronox, Alone in the Dark, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Betrayal at Antara, Betrayal at Krondor, Beyond Divinity, Bioshock 2, Blair Witch: Rustin Parr, Blood 2: The Chosen, Borderlands, Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30, Call of Duty: World at War, Condemned, Dead Space, Divine Divinity 2: Eco Draconis, Devil May Cry 4, Dungeon Siege, Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom, Fallout, Farcry, Farcry 2, Fatal Frame, Fate, F.E.A.R. 2, Football Manager 2010, God of War, God of War 3, Gothic 3, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue, Guild Wars: Prophecies, Guild Wars: Factions, Guild Wars: Nightfall, Halo: Combat Evolved, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Heavy Rain, Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms, Hexen 2, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb, Infamous, Killzone, Kings Bounty: The Legend, Kings Bounty 2: Armoured Princess, Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos, Lands of Lore 2: Guardians of Destiny, Lands of Lore 3, Legendary, Legion: Hand of God, Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4, Loki, Metal Gear Solid 4: Sons of the Patriots, Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer, Nocturne, No One Lives Forever, No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in Harms Way, Okami, Overlord: Raising Hell, Painkiller, Patapon, Penumbra: Overture
1 Plants v Zombies, Portal, Prey, Prince of Persia, Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords, Realms of the Haunting, Resident Evil 2, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Return to Krondor, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, Settlers 4, Silent Hill, Silent Hunter 3, Silver Lining, S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky, Sims 2, Super Princess Peach, Team Fortress 2, Thief 3: Deadly Shadows, Titans Quest: The Immortal Throne, Tomb Raider: Chronicles, Twinsuns Odyssey, Unreal

5 American Magee’s Alice
1 Anachronox
1 Alone in the Dark
1 Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
4 Baldur’s Gate
5 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
1 Batman: Arkham Asylum
1 Betrayal at Antara
1 Betrayal at Krondor
1 Beyond Divinity
2 Beyond Good and Evil
7 Bioshock
1 Bioshock 2
1 Blair Witch: Rustin Parr
1 Blood 2: The Chosen
1 Borderlands
1 Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
1 Call of Duty: World at War
6 Clive Barker’s Undying
3 Clive Barker’s Jericho
1 Condemned
3 Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
1 Dead Space
8 Divine Divinity
1 Divine Divinity 2: Eco Draconis
4 Deus Ex
1 Devil May Cry 4
2 Diablo 2
2 Drakan: Order of the Flame
12 Dragon Age: Origins
3 Drakensang
1 Dungeon Siege
13 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
14 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
1 Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom
4 Fable: The Lost Chapters
1 Fallout
5 Fallout 3
1 Farcry
1 Farcry 2
1 Fatal Frame
1 Fate
7 F.E.A.R.
1 F.E.A.R. 2
1 Football Manager 2010
1 God of War
1 God of War 3
6 Gothic
7 Gothic 2
1 Gothic 3
1 Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
1 Guild Wars 1: Prophecies
1 Guild Wars 2: Factions
1 Guild Wars 3: Nightfall
3 Half Life
5 Half Life 2
1 Halo: Combat Evolved
1 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
1 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
2 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
2 Heavenly Sword
1 Heavy rain
1 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms
1 Hexen 2
2 Ico
1 Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
1 Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb
1 Infamous
1 Killzone
2 Killzone 2
1 Kings Bounty: The Legend
1 Kings Bounty 2: Armoured Princess
1 Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos
1 Lands of Lore 2: Guardians of Destiny
1 Lands of Lore 3
1 Legendary
1 Legion: Hand of God
1 Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4
1 Loki
5 Mass Effect
5 Mass Effect 2
1 Metal Gear Solid 4: Sons of the Patriots
3 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
2 Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour
1 Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer
1 Nocturne
1 No One Lives Forever
1 No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in Harms Way
4 Neverwinter Nights
1 Okami
1 Overlord: Raising Hell
2 Outcast
1 Painkiller
1 Patapon
1 Penumbra: Overture
4 Planescape Torment
1 Plants v Zombies
1 Portal
1 Prey
1 Prince of Persia
1 Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
1 Realms of the Haunting
1 Resident Evil 2
3 Resident Evil 5
1 Retunr to Castle Wolfenstein
1 Return to Krondor
2 Resistance
2 Resistance 2
4 Risen
1 Roller Coaster Tycoon 3
4 Sacred
3 Sacred 2
1 Settlers 4
1 Silent Hill
3 Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
2 Silent Hill 3
1 Silent Hunter 3
1 Silver Lining
3 S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
1 S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky
1 Sims 2
8 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
4 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords
1 Super Princess Peach
2 System Shock 2
1 Team Fortress 2
3 Thief: The Dark Project
2 Thief 2: The Metal Age
1 Thief 3: Deadly Shadows
1 Titans Quest: The Immortal Throne
4 Tomb Raider: The last Revelation
1 Tomb Raider: Chronicles
2 Tomb Raider: Legend
3 Tomb Raider: Underworld
2 Trine
1 Twinsuns Odyssey
2 Two Worlds
3 Unchartered: Drake’s Fortune
3 Unchartered 2: Among Thieves
1 Unreal
2 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption
9 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
15 Witcher, The
2 Zanzarah

Thank you! Thank you! Flotsam

They are also posted on the Annual Games List.

Flotsam

Thanks so much

Thank you Flotsam!

This is a great shopping list.

Brilliant job flotsam !!!

And many thanks

Thank you, flotsam.

It's interesting to see how the list changes over the years. It's fun to see that some of my(very) old favourites still have their place on the list.

Flotsam rocks

Thank you Flotsam

Thank you flotsam

Flotsam
Thanks for your hard work & time on this project.

Dunn