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#905838 - 08/04/13 07:21 PM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Mary]
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I'd think so, Mary. smile

"Best not to think about it. I don't want to fall to bits 'cos of excess existential thought."

#905853 - 08/04/13 08:33 PM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Mary]
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Keep an eye on it and your fingers crossed.
MalwareBytes is a good product, so hopefully it got it all.

#905863 - 08/05/13 01:34 AM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Jenny100]
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If an e-mail is responsible for the infection then it might be a very good idea to get in physical touch with the sender and set up a specific one word code between each other that will be included in the title of the e-mail. Doing this will help you to know if e-mails from this person are real or phony. And don't store the code on the computer, write it down somewhere. And whatever you do, don't tell anyone what the code word is, no matter the reason.
If something gets your goat, it just proves you have a goat to get.

#905928 - 08/05/13 09:25 AM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Mary]
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Luckily, the person who inadvertently spread this virus to me is a person who I no longer work with nor have any other kind of relationship with, so anything coming my way from her will be automatically deleted by me.
The answer is....chocolate! Who cares what the question is.....

#906075 - 08/06/13 01:15 AM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
Yes, Gil, I too was simply shocked.. shocked I say! I can't tell you how many people I've helped get their Facebook accounts back from hackers. Usually a simple change of password does it, but in her case the hacker actually got into her Hotmail account and trashed it plus was carrying on Facebook conversations with other family members. It was very creepy.

Mary, there are a gazillion variations of this virus, so it's pointless to look for a specific one. It's been around for several years.

What happens is hackers use brute force tools to scan accounts for passwords. unfortunately many people use the same password for Facebook and their e-mail. Once they get into your e-mail they use that address to send out piles of spam. Of course they have access to your address book as well. Forwarding nasty stuff to everybody you know.

As Drac said changing the password in your Facebook is the easiest way to shut them out. A problem arises when the theives get into your account they can change your password keeping you out.

It is a royal pain but you should use a different password for every account and DO NOT KEEP PASSWORDS ON THE PC.


How easy is it to brute force a password?

This password for instance
Will take a brute force effort using
Offline Fast Attack Scenario (a hacking tool)
29 seconds to find

Using the Massive Cracking Array Scenario
it would take 0.029 seconds

This password JoHn*!4@2!aA!

Will take (Offline Fast Attack Scenario hacking tool
1.65 hundred thousand centuries to crack

The Massive Cracking Array Scenario tool
Will take
1.65 hundred centuries to crack

Steve Gibson a security expert has designed a free utility allowing you to design passwords reporting how long it will take using various tools to crack

You can create passwords and test them to see how secure they are

It is a great tool and of course you use the tool anonymously

Here is the tool

Password Haystack

For those of you who do online transactions of any kind, banking, purchasing etc here is a way to verify the security certificate of the site is legitimate and you are on the right site. This little puppy is worth it's weight in gold. Again this is Gibson at work.
There is a long article explain why Mr Gibson built this tool. You simply paste the URL onto his fingerprinter and his site will tell you what the correct certificate id is for that site. You compare that to what your browser reports the certificate id is for that site.

He gives you directions how to read the certificate for several browsers. It seems location of the certificate varies between different browsers.

Gibson-Certificate Fingerprinting

Edited by oldmariner (08/06/13 01:21 AM)

#906124 - 08/06/13 10:14 AM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Mary]
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oldmariner, you post is worth its weight in gold! I use Norwegian words with some numbers or characters for passwords and when I plugged a couple of them in to the Password Haystack, they would take several years to hack!
Heading out to the gardens...

#906275 - 08/07/13 12:52 AM Re: I think I got a trojan virus [Re: Draclvr]
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We had to have a twelve character password when I was working, and it had to have a mix of upper and lower case letters, numbers, and any other character we wanted to use. Because of this requirement, the passwords created were the kind that would take years to crack. And some systems we accessed a security fob had to be used, which rotated the pass code every few minutes. All this was a pain, but it did help to keep out the wrong persons.

I do agree with oldmariner to NEVER allow the browser to store/save your password. Keep it written down, it's safer that way.
If something gets your goat, it just proves you have a goat to get.

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