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Everlight of Magic & Power #1090725
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Where did you find this game? I had it years ago but the product key expired and I can't remember where I got it now so I can't replay it. I'd love to give it another go.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090738
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lynthorpe,

Amazon has the game.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090747
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Hmmm. Thanks for the info MaG but......
I don't suppose it's available for download anywhere? I've corrupted my laptop several times trying to play old games. Not very techie I'm afraid so a bit wary of old hard copy games.
Also Amazon does not have a good reputation in the UK. Poor staff conditions and pay; plus they don't pay their taxes here so I prefer not to use them unless I absolutely have to. (Sorry the old hippy coming out in me!)

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090749
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The English boxed version of Everlight used SecuROM v7.
Don't expect it to play on Windows 7/8/10 without a NoCD.

Originally Posted By: lynthorpe
I can't remember where I got it now so I can't replay it.

Probably either Gamersgate or the now-defunct Adventure Shop.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090752
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Yes I think it might have been Adventure Shop. I'm guessing I won't be able to get a downloadable version then and it doesn't sound as if the hard copy version will play either. Oh well.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090757
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It won't play out of the box.
The NoCD might work, but I understand if you don't want to use one.

If you have an older computer with XP or Vista, the boxed version might work on that.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090765
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I played my disc version on Windows 7 with no problem (except it ran hot and crashed a lot). I did not use a NoCD.

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Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090767
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Did you have KB KB3086255 installed?
Or did you use one of the procedures here
http://www.howtogeek.com/230773/how-to-p...-8-7-and-vista/

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090777
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I do have KB3086255 installed and certainly don't remember doing any of those procedures. (You know me, I'm not too good with the fiddling.) I do remember when this update came along and there was conversation about how discs would no longer play because I remember testing out an Agatha Christie game. I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't do something to keep the games playing, but I really don't remember doing anything.

Also, I don't see that I had to enter a product key.

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Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090789
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I don't think that particular game required a product key, though some other games did.

The 3 Agatha Christie games (And Then There Were None, Evil Under the Sun, and Murder on the Orient Express) did not use SecuROM v7 or SafeDisc so KB3086255 should not have affected them. There may be some other incompatibility though, since they were published in 2005, 2006, and 2007 and Windows 7 wasn't around then.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090790
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lynthorpe said this: "I had it years ago but the product key expired and I can't remember where I got it now so I can't replay it. I'd love to give it another go."

That's why I mentioned about a product key.

And Then There Were None is the one I replayed and it worked fine.

If a game uses SecuROM v7 or SafeDisc (or some other) would the box say that? I'm not finding anything like that on my Everlight box.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090838
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Unfortunately publishers that put that SecuROM or other DRM garbage on their games never admit it on the box. If you do a Google search for the name of the game and NoCD you can usually find out what DRM the game uses. There used to be websites that listed what DRM was used on games, but they've pretty much disappeared with games being downloads instead of on disc.

MaG's walkthrough of ***And Then There Were None*** mentions that you don't need the CD in the drive. So that one has no SafeDisc, SecuROM, StarForce, or other DRM junk.

There were some CD games that use product keys. The GotGame version of The Lost Crown had one printed on the manual.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090840
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Hi Guys,

I will move this thread to Glitches forum to continue info and technical discussion.

Thanks Jenny!

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: lynthorpe] #1090845
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Everlight does require the disc to be in the drive to play.

Thanks for the info about how to find what DRM a game uses. I know you mentioned something about this in a prior thread.

Thanks MaG. I thought we might get moved smile

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: lynthorpe] #1090848
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Like oldbroad, I don't like "fiddling" either and tbh, I don't even understand all that stuff!. If I felt more confident about it I'd probably buy the CD. My copy of Everlight was a download and did require a product key to play which expired after 12 months.
Gosh, that's just reminded me! Does anyone remember the windowed wheel which came with the original Curse of Monkey Island? You had to enter related images every time you played. Those were the days....not! Glad we don't have to do that sort of thing now!

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: lynthorpe] #1090871
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Originally Posted By: lynthorpe
My copy of Everlight was a download and did require a product key to play which expired after 12 months.

All games from Adventure Shop required a key and online activation.

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Does anyone remember the windowed wheel which came with the original Curse of Monkey Island? You had to enter related images every time you played.

The first two Monkey Island games on floppy were like that.
Are you thinking of one of those?
Curse of Monkey Island came on CD, and mine certainly had no code wheel.

Having to use something that shipped with the game to start the game (like the xth word on the yth page of the manual or looking at a page to see what was written using red plastic glasses) were "protections" used for floppies. They were a lot better than having the DRM built into the structure of the floppy because when it was built into the floppy you couldn't back up the floppy. Although some floppy disks have lasted 30 years or more, a lot of them don't.

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Those were the days....not! Glad we don't have to do that sort of thing now!

The worst I encountered was having to look up locations on a paper map that was falling apart for Spirit of Excalibur. The towns you had to locate could be on the borders of the map divisions, which had to be estimated because the map didn't have vertical and horizontal lines to demarcate the divisions, only symbols (shields) at the edges of the map, and you had to guess at which division the town was in when it was halfway between. I had to lay the map on the floor, arrange its broken bits together, and use a long straight thing like a metal measuring tape to get the coordinates along the edges. Even after all that fuss, the game would sometimes claim they were wrong -- apparently because the person who made the system misread the map himself. It was one particular town that would always be wrong.

There's a picture of this awful map ***here***
As you can see, the coordinates at the edge are shields rather than numbers or letters. Unlike my map, there are squares marked off. My map was a lot more worn (got the game used). If the game had come with a cloth map instead of a paper one, I'd have kept it. The paper map just didn't hold up.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: lynthorpe] #1090881
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Now that is interesting! I didn't know anything about computers or gaming back then so never saw any of this stuff. I still haven't even played the Monkey Island games (do have them though). Sometimes I really wish I had gotten into this stuff earlier.

Re: Everlight of Magic & Power [Re: oldbroad] #1090886
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"Does anyone remember the windowed wheel which came with the original Curse of Monkey Island? You had to enter related images every time you played. "
Oh, yes !! And I still have my Monkey Island Wheel devilchili

I seem to remember several games of that era not being playable unless you had the manual.

Although it was a form of copy protection, I quite enjoyed having to find clues and answers from the manual in that way.
It just added to the fun snicker


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