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real myst masterpiece HELP #1154881
06/24/18 01:10 AM
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dear sir,i downloaded from GOG (real myst masterpiece edition),when i click the shortcut,to start the game,a massege comes up saying,"this is not a 32 bit aplication"
it does not work at all,even though gog says,that it works
on xp,but its not true,so what i did was,i have an earlier
version from this game,so i tried it,but as soon as i click
the shortcut to start the game,the game starts but when the
myst book opens i must click on it,to proceed,but after a few seconds the game brings me back to the desktop,thats it
can anyone help me,with this problem
i thank in advance
samuel

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1154892
06/24/18 10:04 AM
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Samuel,
"This is not a 32 bit application" should not relate to WinXP but rather to the CPU installed in your computer. At least, that is what that message ought to mean.

Now as to the "earlier version", you will have to post details about that version. Check the installation instructions to see if your computer meets the requirements of the game.
Presumably, since you own the older version, at one time you did play it. Was it on your current computer? Have you made any changes to your operating system since playing that version?

Robert

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1154895
06/24/18 10:14 AM
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short version:
Try turning off SSAO and focus effect in the game options.

long version:
Originally Posted By: samuel
when i click the shortcut,to start the game,a message comes up saying,"this is not a 32 bit application"

The game uses Unity game engine, and current versions of Unity aren't compatible with XP. So even if the game originally used a version of Unity that was compatible with XP, it's quite possible that current versions of Unity don't, and after the game was updated it was no longer compatible with XP. GOG should change their listing not to include XP.

Originally Posted By: samuel
the game starts but when the myst book opens i must click on it,to proceed,but after a few seconds the game brings me back to the desktop

It sounds like your video card doesn't meet the actual (not the listed) requirements.

The game's listed system requirements are way below what's actually needed to play it. The game is known for poor performance, as described in this Steam thread, where even people with top-of-the-line video cards had lag and other graphics-related problems.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244430/discussions/0/359547436745827602/

You could try what's suggested here
https://www.gog.com/forum/myst_series/reason_for_graphics_card_running_hot_in_realmyst_me
Even though he's specifically talking about the books in the library, maybe turning off SSAO and focus effect in the game options would get you past the Myst book.

Here's a description of what SSAO is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_space_ambient_occlusion

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1154904
06/24/18 12:53 PM
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dear people,i think,i found the problem,gog claims that this game,works from
xp,and up,but i went to steam,they sell the very same game,but they also list
system requirements,the 1st one is named,"minimum",the 2nd is "recomended"
under the minimum requirements,they list the very same as GOG,but if you look
also under the,"recomended requirements",winxp is not listed,it starts with
win 7,and up but no xp,you may ask me what i played all the years till now
the answer is simple,i played the plain,(real myst),wich i downloded from GOG
its a very nice game,i never had a problem with it,but in the beginning of
2014,real myst masterpiece edition came out,i bought it from GOG,but never play
it,because i had the plain real myst,but now i decided to try it,and now even the plain real myst game,is no longer available from GOG,why who knows,i thank you for trying to help me,if you can come up with other options,how to make
(real myst masterpiece edition),WORK,i thank you all
samuel

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1154905
06/24/18 02:02 PM
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Is there a reason why you have to play it using XP?
RealMyst Masterpiece was never made with XP in mind, and I don't believe there are any video cards with drivers for XP that play the game smoothly and in a satisfactory way, without a lot of hitching, jerking, and lag.

The original RealMyst (year 2000) played far more smoothly, but GOG announced they were pulling it on June 18, 2018 after the summer sale.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/real_m...ow_active/page1

Quote:
Real Myst will be leaving the GOG.com catalog at the end of the Summer Sale (18th of June). Until then, we’ve added a discount of 70% off the game.

Cyan Worlds feel Real Myst does not accurately represent the vision of the game, with the Masterpiece Edition being the superior version. With this in mind, the decision to remove Real Myst was made.

We’re sad to see it leave, but be sure not to Myst this opportunity to add Real Myst to your GOG.com library.

https://www.gog.com/game/real_myst

For those who already own the game, it will remain in your library.


So if you bought the original RealMyst before, you should be able to download it and play it on XP.

For several reasons I disagree with their claim that the "Masterpiece" Edition is superior. The "Masterpiece" version has terrible performance, is more limited in what computers it can run on, lacks features of the original fish tank area downstairs in the Stoneship Age, generally has worse colors and unwanted glare, etc. Not to mention that the Unity game engine used for the "Masterpiece" edition sends telemetry information back to the mother ship, and there is no way to turn this off short of pulling the plug on your Internet connection.

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: Jenny100] #1154923
06/24/18 05:44 PM
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I think that samuel is still using a Windows XP computer, period.

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1154997
06/25/18 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marian
I think that samuel is still using a Windows XP computer, period.

Then samuel should log into his GOG account, download the original RealMyst from his game library, and forget about running "RealMyst Masterpiece" for the time being. Maybe in 10 years the game will run acceptably on an affordable computer, but not any time soon.

"RealMyst Masterpiece" won't run well (if it runs at all) with any computer that shipped with XP. Even if you build a computer yourself, with the most modern, high end $$$ parts that work with XP, at best you'll get it to run with hiccups and lag.

You notice the only person who said the game ran well at
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244430/discussions/0/359547436745827602/
had "Dual 780's with a Overclocked Intel Core i7 4930K Hex-Core (4.4GHz-4.8GHz)."

How many and people do you know have not one, but two high end video cards and a processor that runs between 4.4ghz and 4.8ghz? Consider that to be the "Recommended" specs.

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1157010
07/16/18 10:03 AM
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can anyone,tell me if,(V-RAM),is a important thing in gaming yes or no ?
my video card,(nvidia geforce gt 730),has only 2gb of ddr3 ram,but not a drop
of V-RAM,i searched the internet,i could not find a card with V-RAM,any HELP
is good,samuel

Re: real myst masterpiece HELP [Re: samuel] #1157016
07/16/18 10:54 AM
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VRAM is short for Video RAM.
Whether 2gb is enough depends on the game.

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