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Have You Techies Seen This ?? #1177290
02/11/19 02:24 PM
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THIS ....


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177294
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Interesting Mad. I never had Windows 95. So is this like a virtual machine kind of thing then?

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: oldbroad] #1177300
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I don't know, oldbroad. Not being a techie myself lol

[I did have Win95 (when it came out) but all the games I liked and used to play on it, I can still play on my Win98SE machine. So it won't be anything I'll be going for myself.]


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177309
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Why do you keep taking us backwards?

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Geo] #1177313
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Who, me ?? woozy

[ Although I do very much like old stuff, I was just passing on the link smile ]


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177315
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Thanks for the link, Mad. I hadn't heard of this one, so I appreciate knowing about it.

Geo, most of my favorite games are Windows 95/98 games, so things like this are of great interest to me. yes

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177323
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I wish things would go backwards a little. All this new stuff is too much for me!!

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177325
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thanks Mad.. I have a windows 95 but I haven't used it in years.... nice to have for very old games.


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: oldbroad] #1177329
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
I wish things would go backwards a little. All this new stuff is too much for me!!


At the risk of sounding like an old lady talking about the good old days, I think that we had more good adventure games released in the 1990s than we have had since. New tech doesn't bother me, but I don't like the way everything now seems to be kind of designed around tablets. But that's just the old fuddy-duddy talking, I know. grin

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177336
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Well fuddy-duddy-buddy hug, I don't know about those old games because I started playing late, but a lot of the new tech is just too much for me, and I don't care who thinks I sound like an old lady!! wink

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: oldbroad] #1177342
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
Well fuddy-duddy-buddy hug, I don't know about those old games because I started playing late, but a lot of the new tech is just too much for me, and I don't care who thinks I sound like an old lady!! wink


grin thumbsup

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177344
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Originally Posted By: Mad
THIS ....


Who knows. Maybe it will actually be usable some day.
But it has a long way to go.
Right now there are better solutions for running old games on newer systems.
Right now this one only runs 4 games, all of which are DOS games and run in DOSBox anyway.

Getting Windows 95/98 games to run -- that's the real challenge.

There have been a lot of attempts to get older Windows 95/98 games running on newer systems. No one thing seems to work for all games or on all newish computers. Besides Virtual PC and similar programs, and tweaked versions of the famous DOSBox that can run some Windows 95 games, there are programs like 86box and PCem, which are more game-focussed than Virtual PC/VMware/VirtualBox and can emulate 3dfx video cards, not just 2D cards like the S3 Trio.

Then there are "wrappers" like DxWnd, dgVoodoo, nGlide, or WINE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

This "Let's Run" by YouTube uploader IkiFoo shows how he uses DxWnd to run Black Dahlia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Hi5UMhkuQ
It's not 100%, but he does manage to get it playable.
I wish there were more how-to's like that on YouTube -- especially for difficult to run games.
Originally DxWnd was intended only to run games windowed, but now it can do a lot more.

Mac versions of games are often using a "wrapper." GOG versions of older Windows games sometimes also use wrappers. Here's a quote by devilhunter from www.portingteam.com/tutorials/article/11-using-pre-made-game-wrappers/
Originally Posted By: devilhunter
These pre-made software bundles are meant for playing normal PC games on your Mac, without the need of rebooting into Windows.

A wrapper is basically a small Windows "Emulator" that "wraps" itself around an existing installation of any windows based game or app, which then allows you to execute it directly on your Mac similar to a native OSX application.


Way back when I had an iMac as my main computer (over 10 years ago now), I remember sometimes getting crashes with Big Fish games, and the message would be something about the wrapper. So wrappers have been around a long time, and in a good enough state that they could be used in commercial software.

You don't need for something to look like a Windows 95 desktop to get a game running like it's on Windows 95. Wrappers can be a lot smaller than something like a Virtual machine, which requires a drive image.

Currently wrappers can do things that virtual machines can't -- mainly because Virtual Machine software was originally developed by manufacturers who were targeting business and not gamers.

If I weren't so lazy I'd be trying out wrappers myself. I do use them in my GOG games that are preconfigured to use them, but tweaking them myself for a specific game isn't something I've tried.

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177374
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Well I still have my Sony computer with Windows 95/98 so I can still play my old games! These wrappers sound interesting.


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177604
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There are a couple of projects that I find more intriguing. Win3mu and WineVDM. I have used the latter to play Sim Tower on my Win7 x64.

https://www.vogons.org/download/file.php?id=49864&mode=view


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177649
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Windows 3? Never heard of it!

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: oldbroad] #1177651
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Windows 3

There was a Windows 2.1 also. smile

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177689
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I had a Windows 3.1 machine running in our inspection lab until a few months ago. Not bad...20+ years! I upgraded it to Windows 98 lol


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Cue] #1177691
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I vaguely remember Win 3.1 and the playing of games but my clearest memories are of playing games in DOS (and DOS EMS) and, much later on, the "astounding" Win 95 !!!! 😎😎


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Mad] #1177696
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I never used DOS. I only know computers since Windows 98.

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: oldbroad] #1177705
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The first game I ever played on Windows 95 was Beavis and Butthead's Virtual Stupidity. It was a surprisingly good adventure game. laugh

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Marian] #1177787
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smile You guys are making me feel nostalgic. Used to run most of those on my old systems. Still have the completed mainboard around from my very first build attempt, complete with a blistering 200 MHz MMX CPU. It had the dinkiest, little cooling fan. lol


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Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Trail_Mystic] #1177882
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Originally Posted by Trail_Mystic
smile You guys are making me feel nostalgic. Used to run most of those on my old systems. Still have the completed mainboard around from my very first build attempt, complete with a blistering 200 MHz MMX CPU. It had the dinkiest, little cooling fan. lol



Yeah, me too - I've still got my old PS/2 Model 40 running Windows 3.1... and then... my Dell GX1 with Windows 9x. The old games run great on those old machines, especially if you attach a high dot pitch monitor for the really old games.

We've got a move coming up in several months, so I've packed up all of my games with boxes and manuals - so far I'm pushing over 8+ large packing boxes. My wife say's I have a problem smile

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: InlandAZ] #1177885
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The best kind of problem to have, InlandAZ! dance

Re: Have You Techies Seen This ?? [Re: Marian] #1177888
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"We've got a move coming up in several months, so I've packed up all of my games with boxes and manuals - so far I'm pushing over 8+ large packing boxes. My wife say's I have a problem"

lol wave

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Good Luck with the move, when it comes, InlandAZ. And I hope "your problem" is given the full respect it deserves !! lol


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