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Re: Fast Start Up [Re: oldbroad] #1354124
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We are done! 37 pints in the bag! Oh, my it's yummy!


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I'll take your word for it! I'm not a huge applesauce fan. I like it. I eat it once in a great while. Sometimes the texture bothers me.

I am having a little trouble following the link you posted. If I can't figure it out I'll post back. Pictures or not, I just don't understand this stuff.

Edit 1 - Okay, I did the check disk on both drives through the file explorer and no errors were found. Do I still need to do it that other way?

Edit 2 - Well, even though doing check disk through file explorer says it doesn't correct any errors and it said none were found, my computer didn't do much gurgling tonight after the check disk while I played my Nonograms game. Coincidence ? It is a little earlier in the night than some other nights when I'm playing, if that means anything.

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Re: Fast Start Up [Re: oldbroad] #1354133
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It wouldn't hurt to do it the other way, but that's good news about just doing it through Explorer. I would let it ride and if you hear the sound and it crashes again, it won't hurt to do the deep check disk. Something is definitely amiss with your hard drive.

The applesauce from the grocery store is horrid. I can see why you wouldn't be a big fan. We use really good fresh picked apples and only cinnamon and a bit of nutmeg in it - no sugar. Along with the marinara and chili sauce I canned this summer, we will eat well this winter!


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Re: Fast Start Up [Re: oldbroad] #1354179
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Ran a full Norton scan (just for Orion) - no problems there. One thing I've noticed since I disabled Fast Start Up is that my Norton doesn't seem to be doing it's Smart Scan anymore when I turn my computer on. It used to, and all the settings still seem to be right. It shows Auto Scan is on and Auto Protect and all that stuff.

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I didn't figure you had any malware problems. That's just not what it's acting like. But at least it's done! Don't use Norton, so not sure why the doesn't do the Smart Scan at startup. Seems like it would be the other way around!


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Re: Fast Start Up [Re: oldbroad] #1354315
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Tonight the BSOD showed Net.iosys at the bottom which it has shown before and one of the reasons I said that I think it is a network problem. I guess my network adapter is Intel (R) Ethernet Connection (7) I219-V. If I try to update drivers in Device Manager it tells me that "Windows has determined that the best driver for this device is already installed". I looked in the past for drivers for this but didn't find anything and/or didn't know what I was looking at or for or what to do with it. In looking again tonight I still don't see anything helpful.

So, I guess I figured out how to do that chkdsk/f and did it. I don't know if it did anything. I thought it was going to take some time and I walked away from my computer for about 30 seconds. When I came back it was apparently finished already. Would that help anyway if it has to do with my network adapter?

And then, after I had already restarted the computer and the chkdsk had run there was a Windows notification to restart my computer to run it so I did it again and it did only take about 1 second. It showed 100%.

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I’m surprised to read that, oldbroad, as I’ve never run a chkdsk type of check that finished in anything like 30 seconds.
But maybe I’ve just never run that particular one !!


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I have found quite a bit on the netiosys BSOD error. It's not your network... it appears it could be a faulty network driver. The place you go to fine updated drivers is the manufacturer of your motherboard. Do you know what brand it is?

Those scans are pretty brief! I've had them take a very long time. Hopefully that means you don't have any bad sectors. I'm still concerned about your "gurgling" sound.

This is a LOT to slog through, but it does explain a lot. Supposedly the fixes work the same on both Windows 10 and Windows 11.

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/fix-netio-sys-bsod-error


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Network, network drivers - that is all the same to me, and what I was looking for - drivers. Please don't expect me to use exact words when I don't know what I'm talking about.

Would that be this: ?

ASRock Z390 Pro4 (Intel Z390, HDMI, 2xPCI-E, 2xM.2,
6xSATA, 4xDDR4) |


Doesn't chkdsk fix bad sectors. Is there something else I should run like a disk cleanup or defragment or something?

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My check disks have always taken considerably longer than this too, even when no problems are identified.

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I did think that seemed awfully fast duh

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Oh, my goodness, oldbroad! I am so sorry if I made you mad. I most definitely do not expect you to know all the terminology. But that's exactly why I clarified that everything I found pointed to a potential faulty network driver. It appears your network itself provided by your ISP is just fine. All this is confusing enough, so it's important that we are both talking about the same thing.

That is your motherboard. I went to the ASRock website and entered your model and looked up available drivers. I just can't tell for sure if any of them are for your Intel Ethernet Connection. However, I did find drivers that that particular ethernet version at the Intel website. You could try downloading that driver and then try updating it again.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...ethernet-connection-i219v/downloads.html

Disk cleanup and defrag are long gone! I remember watching those little blocks fill in for what seemed like hours like I was mesmerized! Checkdisk with the /f qualifier is supposed to fix any bad sectors it might find. And even if there are no bad sectors, 30 seconds is much too fast.

To be honest, I'm at a standstill here. I spent a couple of hours this morning researching this and this is the best that I can provide. Some of the fixes are a bit complicated and I know you don't like to get too technical with your computer. It just might be best to take it to your local computer repair shop. You have worked hard to try to get to the bottom of this and I know it must be frustrating.


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It isn't that you made me mad exactly. I understand that if I want somebody to try to help me I need to be as exact as possible, but I'm pretty sure I never said anything about my ISP provider. Way early in this thread I referred to it as "my network something or other" and last night I provided my Network Adapter information which is what you have just posted in your newest link. I did see that page last night, however, I don't know what on that page is helpful for me. If I click on "view details" for that complete driver pack, it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with my computer. Oh wait. I didn't see the drop down scroll arrow before. It does show I219-V. Sorry about that! So, is that what I should try? Can it hurt my computer if it is not the right thing?

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You didn't say anything about your ISP - you said this... "Tonight the BSOD showed Net.iosys at the bottom which it has shown before and one of the reasons I said that I think it is a network problem." Your network is what your ISP provider sends to your house to use the internet. That's why I had to make sure I separated the two - your network is fine! It's a network driver that may be your culprit. Like I said it's confusing enough!!

You can download the driver and it shouldn't hurt anything. Usually they just download the driver to a specific file and then when you do a driver update, it should search your computer for the driver. But it's not impossible the download includes a wrapper that actually installs the driver. I just don't know. It can't hurt anything and if the driver causes issues, you can always use the "roll back driver" option in Device manager.

I will leave it up to you!


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It is some kind of zip file that sounds like it includes stuff I don't need so I hope my computer knows what to do with it or not do with it because I sure don't. And Draclvr, I am not trying to argue with you but I don't believe "network" only refers to what my ISP provider sends to my house for the internet.

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