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2007 The Dark Side List #171548
07/07/07 01:33 AM
07/07/07 01:33 AM
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Hi all,
As promised,here is the thread for this years top 13 Dark Side recommendations.
The object for any boomers in the dark is to recommend to other boomers non-adventure games that you believe worthy of playing in this day and age. Plenty of people venture over here and don't know what to play, me included. The games may be your all time favourites, but they need not be. I loved Quake at the time and I still think of it highly but I wouldn't recommend it today.
We then compile a final list as a resource for other players.
The rules are fairly simple.

1. You can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but you can recommend less.
2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game.
3. Expansion packs will be considered seperate games, on the basis that the original might be ordinary but an expansion pack superb.
4. Any game that is not pure adventure can be listed, irrespective of genre.
5. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 rpg's if you choose.
6. It is essentially a pc list, but given that many players have consoles as well, if you want to list games for the console go right ahead.

Please use full titles where possible as I am not as familiar with titles and series over here as I am with the light side games. Add ons and expansions might confuse me but I will shout if clarification is needed.
We will keep the list open for about 2 weeks and with help from a mucky the list will also be categorised for genre, at least down to those with multiple recommendations.
I will post later - Oblivion is still a work in progress!
Lets go devil


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Re: The Dark Side List 2007 [Re: flotsam] #171552
07/07/07 01:43 AM
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Thanks again for volunteering your time - it's a wonderful list to have!
HERE is a link to last year's choices (go to the thread's last page for the winners).


"How could drops of water know themselves to be a river? Yet the river flows on."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 [Re: nickie] #171625
07/07/07 07:52 AM
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Kentwood, Left my heart in New...
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I got my list together but cant seem to narrow it down to 13. So far the best I can do is 15. I'll need a little while to weigh things out. lol


I Baag, Therefore I Am. Update: I Don't Baag Anymore, Therefore I Ain't! Update: I'm baaging again but just a little.
JohnBoy
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Re: The Dark Side List 2007 [Re: JohnBoy] #171755
07/07/07 11:50 AM
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Thank, flotsam for another year of the Darkside list.

Hi All, Let's hear from you and get in those votes!

Re: The Dark Side List 2007 [Re: MaG] #171768
07/07/07 12:24 PM
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Anachronox
Beyond Divinity
Beyond Good and Evil
Divine Divinity
Dragonriders of Pern
Ghost Master
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition (aka Kult)
Indigo Prophecy (aka Fahrenheit)
Might and Magic VI
Quest for Glory 4
Sacred Plus
Zanzarah


"How could drops of water know themselves to be a river? Yet the river flows on."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 [Re: MaG] #171770
07/07/07 12:27 PM
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The Country
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Mine is easy- I have only played 2 Dark side games so far-- and loved them both

Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine

Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit




Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
Gibran
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 [Re: Winfrey] #171954
07/07/07 06:45 PM
07/07/07 06:45 PM
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Let's see...

PainKiller
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay
Mafia
Oblivion
Tomb Raider: Legend
Half-Life 2
Silent Hill 2
Max Payne 2
Test Drive Unlimited
Beyond Good & Evil
Cold Fear
Medal of Honor
Doom 3

Thanks again flotsam for doing this for us! praise

Rusty monky


Even monkeys fall from trees sometimes.
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam] #171958
07/07/07 06:49 PM
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Well I'm not usually one of the first to do anything but I have a list of sorts so will submit it. Probably pretty much the same as last year with maybe one or two exceptions.


Blood Rayne
KOTOR
KOTOR 2
Morrowindbravo
Oblivion
Dungeon Lords
Gothic
Divine Divinity
Sacred Gold
Tomb Raider 2
No One Lives Forever
Betrayal In Antara (For those of you who are unfamiliar with this one it would be worth checking into. Many hours of enjoyment with turn based combat)
Diablo Hellfire (My first action adventure game took me a while to learn) bravo


You laugh because I'm different
I laugh because you're all the same

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

John
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: oldman] #171965
07/07/07 07:34 PM
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Mafia
Gothic 2
Planescape Torment
Fallout
Thief 2 The Metal Age
Thief Gold
Anachronox
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Outcast
ICO
Shadow of the Colossus
Morrowind


Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Pokey] #171998
07/07/07 10:00 PM
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My list, no particular order.

Morrowind
Condemned:Crimial Orgins
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Fable TLC
Arcanum
Unreal 2:The Awakening
BloodRayne
The Suffering
Demon Stone
Necromania Traps of Darkness
F.E.A.R.
Icewind Dale
Neverwinter Nights





Brick walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage. Give no thought of tomorrow, today was tomorrow and tomorrow will be today.
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: kazzmo] #172021
07/08/07 01:05 AM
07/08/07 01:05 AM
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United Kingdom
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Hi smile

A "Darkside Wimp" I nevertheless have a list lol ....

Baldur’s Gate
Betrayal in Antara
Diablo
Divine Divinity
DragonRiders - Chronicles of Pern
Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide
Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
Planescape Torment
Quest for Glory 4 : Shadows of Darkness
Quest for Glory V : Dragon Fire
Return to Krondor

Cheers.

Mad wave


Time : The Most Precious Commodity
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: kazzmo] #172058
07/08/07 04:27 AM
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Ok, then smile

Here's my list.

1. Planescape Torment
2. Fallout 1
3. Baldur's Gate 1
4. Icewind Dale 1
5. Knights of the old Republic 1 (kotor 1)
6. Heretic Kingdoms: Inquistition(aka Kult)
7. Might and Magic 6
8. Baldur's Gate 2
9. Gothic 1
10.Neverwinter Nights 1
11. Morrowind
12. Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit (same game, though)

/Karsten


9. Newerwinter Nights 1
10


Adventure gaming is fun smile

Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: kazzmo] #172267
07/08/07 01:30 PM
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American McGees Alice
Clive Barkers Undying
Drakan Order of the Flame
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Tomb Raider Legend
Unreal Tournament 2003
Serious Sam
Serious Sam The Second Encounter
Rollercoaster Tycoon 3
The Sims 2
Max Payne
Max Payne II
Enclave


I Baag, Therefore I Am. Update: I Don't Baag Anymore, Therefore I Ain't! Update: I'm baaging again but just a little.
JohnBoy
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Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam] #172278
07/08/07 01:51 PM
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flotsam, hi,

For some reason, this seems easier than the Light Side list, even though you have less choices to proffer. Here goes:

1. Fallout
2. Fallout 2
3. Planescape: Torment
4. Realms of the Haunting
5. Deus Ex
6. Half-life
7. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
8. Morrowind
9. Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
10. Divine Divinity
11. Diablo II
12. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
13. Oblivion

Cheers,
MetzO'Magic
P.S. Mine was the 13th reply. Lucky me devil


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Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: metzomagic] #172349
07/08/07 03:49 PM
07/08/07 03:49 PM
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I've never voted on any games before so here goes. I have only ten that seemed good enough to play more then once. All are PC RPG's in the order give (best to least).

1. Divine Divinity
2. Morrowind
3. Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines
4. Knights Of The Old Republic
5. Knights Of The Old Republic 2
6. The Bards Tale
7. Neverwinter Nights
8. Neverwinter Nights 2
9. Silent Hill 3
10. Heretic Kingdoms: Inquistition


Everyone has a photographic memory...some just don't have any film. Mine was over exposed.
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: metzomagic] #172356
07/08/07 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: metzomagic

P.S. Mine was the 13th reply. Lucky me devil


Hi Steve, I wish I'd thought of that. Was it on purpose or coincidental?


You laugh because I'm different
I laugh because you're all the same

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

John
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam] #172359
07/08/07 04:22 PM
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1. Zanzarah
2. Might and Magic 6
3. Anvil of Dawn
4. Jurassic Park Operation Genesis
5. Darklands
6. Ultima Underworld
7. Baldur's Gate 2
8. Divine Divinity
9. Realms of the Haunting
10. Quest for Glory 4
11. Veil of Darkness
12. Fate
13. Ghost Master

Whew! Once again, there were many more competing for my consideration. wink

John, I haven't played Betrayal in Antara yet (I have it right here), but it would appear that getting it to behave in Windows XP is problematic. Have you run the game with Windows XP? wave

Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Marian] #172407
07/08/07 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marian


John, I haven't played Betrayal in Antara yet (I have it right here), but it would appear that getting it to behave in Windows XP is problematic. Have you run the game with Windows XP? wave


I have an older PC with win 98 loaded to play older games so I haven't tried Antara on XP. (In fact I haven't played it in years). However, the expert on XP compatibility (metzomagic) just posted above so maybe he'll see this post and give us a hint.


You laugh because I'm different
I laugh because you're all the same

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

John
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: oldman] #172482
07/08/07 08:55 PM
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oldman, hi,

(just coincidental that I was the 13th poster, BTW)

Hmm. Betrayal in Antara. Don't have it myself, so hard to tell. Released in 1997, that means Compatibility Mode for Win 95 ought to do it in XP, else you're outta luck...

The hardest games to get running in XP are the ones made between 1996 and 2000. They were all striving to get the most performance they could out of Win 95/98, broke a lot of the unwritten Win 32 API rules, and so... luck of the dice roll with these ones, really.

Edit: just checked on www.ntcompatible.com. Looks like it will run in XP but that you need to have your screen resolution set to 640 x 480 and also use a PC slowdown progam like Turbo or else the game crashes often in combat.

Regards,
MetzO'Magic


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Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: metzomagic] #172522
07/09/07 12:31 AM
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Way to go everyone - and well done on number 13 metzo!



Quantity has a quality all of its own
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam] #172540
07/09/07 03:16 AM
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Marlborough USA
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I just love all the Tomb Raider series so here is my list.
1. Tomb Raider II Gold
2. Tomb Raider III Lost Artifact
3. Tomb Raider 4 Last Revelation
4. Tomb Raider 5 Chronicles
5. Tomb Raider 6 Angel of Darkness
6. Tomb Raider 7 Legend
7. Tomb Raider 8 Anniversary Edition (playing now)!
8. Indigo Prophecy


Gerry
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Kaki's Sister] #172556
07/09/07 04:26 AM
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1.Morrowind
2.Oblivion
3.American McGee's Alice
4.Clive Barkers Undying
5.Cold Fear
6.Alone in the Dark 4
7.Call of Duty
8.Aikens Artifact
9.BloodRayne
10.No one Lives Forever 2
11.Knights of the Old Republic 1


Caroline.


I haven't lost it, I just can't find it....
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Carolin] #172940
07/09/07 04:47 PM
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Hi all - that time of the year again already - of the games I've played, I recommend the following:

1. Morrowind

2. Gothic 2
3. GTA - San Andreas
4. Gothic
5. Baldur's Gate 2
6. Baldur's Gate
7. Divine Divinity
8. NWN - not so much for the official campaign but for the engine that powers user made modules

Morrowind with mods is far and away the best game I've played/still play.

There are also lots of games I have yet to play which appear regularly on other lists and would probably also be on mine smile


Last edited by pantheon; 07/09/07 09:14 PM.

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Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: flotsam] #173036
07/09/07 08:22 PM
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OK, in no particular order:

Neverwinter Nights I
Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark Expansion
Neverwinter Nights II
Baldur's Gate II
Knights of the Old Republic I
Knights of the Old Republic II
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Oblivion
Morrowind
Morrowind: Bloodmoon Expansion
Fable: The lost Chapters
Dungeon Siege II




“Sorrow has a human heart...”

Nightwish
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!) [Re: Trail_Mystic] #173072
07/09/07 09:54 PM
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Here are my choices:

1. Gothic 1
2. Gothic 2
3. Baldur's Gate 2
4. Thief 1
5. Thief 2
6. Divine Divinity
7. Morrowind
8. Fable
9. Planescape Torment
10. Might & Magic VI
11. Might & Magic VII
12. Might & Magic VIII
13. Anachronox


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