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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: sierramindy] #311185
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Another interesting idea sierramindy if only:
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the kiss was 'harm' free
smile

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: chrissie] #311223
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Quote:
Originally Posted By: LindaMarionheya chrissie you've got a more devious mind...........
not quite sure how to take that!

Chose a very bad word Chrissie- English frown
"Devious" wrong- maybe "intricate"? certainly no offence meant.sorry

another possible maybe unlikely:
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Jason didn't read instructions carefully and although he learnt what *drinking* the stuff directly would do to *him* he didnt pay attention to how dangerous a single kiss could do to Sydell.
in any case it seems unlikely that in this day Sydelle couldn't be saved from that tiny contageon?


Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: LindaMarion] #311231
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Yes but ....
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Would they find out in time what he had taken and get the antidote in time


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: LindaMarion] #311232
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No offence taken at all LindaMarion & no need for apology. smile

There is a sheet of info about the 'stuff' - I think it would be worth reading again! I can't remember what the details were - at the time it seemed significant but not relevant at the time - if that makes sense? smile

dragonuk I don't think:
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there was any known antidote.

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: chrissie] #311234
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Click to reveal..
would a kiss be enough to kill
Thinking about it I
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don t think there was an antidote


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: dragonuk44] #311277
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Ive never done this before, hope it works
i tried to close it in spoil tags but it doesnt work

i hope its ok and not against rules.it should be ok because the phosphorus poison business comes in first 5 minutes of game and is in demo which everybody has seen openly so its not giving any thing away or spoiling any thing for any body

**spoil warning**:
Best not to look at following if youve not finished game
Thank you alkis
http://www.picattic.com/viewer.php?file=s2x2ubi9kwc8jzifoax0.jpg

Last edited by LindaMarion; 04/15/08 05:06 PM. Reason: Added spoil warning
Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: LindaMarion] #311281
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Nevertheless, it would be best if people who haven't finished the game didn't click on Linda's link. But it's very helpful for the rest of us so thanks!

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Check the last four lines of the second column, the answer is there. By the way, there is no antidote for yellow phosphorus.


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: alkis21] #311472
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e could hve contaminated all of them that went into the room then .They would nt have known what he had took so it would be to late and no known antidote .Unless that clever doc was on to some thing .It must have been in that lab for some thing .Kill the ones they did nt need . think I would say she died if that doc did nt have an antidote
think


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: LindaMarion] #311734
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Thanks for posting that Lindamarion - I now feel a little differently about the ending:
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Jason knew every detail about the poison including how contagious it was - I think he could also be sure that Sydelle (who was probably the only one that knew where he hid the key) would come & see him (any good friend would.) If it was too late someone in Sydelle's situation would be very upset & try to revive/hug Jason etc - there! the damage is done - he would know that. I now think the kiss was purely an affectionate last minute gesture cry

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: chrissie] #312070
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Regarding the ending: I thought that
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the kiss was not an affectionate gesture, but rather him using his power. Since Alkis clearly wrote "I chose" a kiss, I thought he was choosing using his power, meaning that his choice was really the choice that Sydelle wanted him to make.

The big question is: Was Sydelle choosing to kiss him because she loved him, or was she choosing to die, and Jason was kissing her to make sure that happened? I like to think it's the latter, because it kind of redeems Sydelle. She realized that she was very wrong to follow with Hungerton's plan and wanted to kill herself alongside Jason. Jason, using his power, sensed her choice to kill herself, and helped her along.

But of course it's up to interpretation, which I love!

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: VinceTwelve] #312073
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welcome to GameBoomers VinceTwelve

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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #312074
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Thanks!

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: VinceTwelve] #312102
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vince12- hey thats a terrific idea.maybe?

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: VinceTwelve] #312194
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Hi VinceTwelve welcome

I didn't think there could be any other alternatives until you referred to Jason
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making that 'choice' - it's very believable that maybe it was a choice that Sydelle wanted him to make but would she have known what he'd actually taken? I'm not so sure, so wouldn't realise the implications. Whatever theories there have been I have always been convinced that Sydelle's feelings towards jason were stronger than his for her so it maybe was just something she had always hoped for & 'made it happen'. Alternatively maybe Jason realised that he cared for Sydelle more than he realised & that last gesture was a defiance of the way his abilities had been used & completely his own choice this time.

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: chrissie] #316654
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A few more reviews have been published in foreign sites lately, here are some of the comments:

"The script is exceptional, the writing is awesome, the research that Alkis did sounds out of this world and it's one of the few games that invoke such intense feelings"
PC Master Magazine (Greek) - Grade: 80%

"Diamonds in the Rough with its innovations in puzzle design and the gripping, twisting, if not to say even stirring story absolutely deserves this high rating"
Adventure Archiv (German) - Grade: 83%

"The great and surprising story, simple controls and clever puzzles are absolutely on par with the best modern high budget productions. Clearly this game has been designed by adventure fans for adventure fans"
Adventure Spiele (German) - Grade: 4/5 stars

All reviews here


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: alkis21] #317500
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Hi Alkis, I agree with Nickie the main reason I have not ordered DITR is because of the insecure security browser, when I don't see the lock, I do not order from that site. Also I hate paypal, been burnt by them in the past and do not give my cc info to them. I played the demo counted down the days until this was released and hoped to buy it from Dave at interact online store. I wrote him and he said the ten copies you gave him to sell went fast and were gone. If you would consider letting interact sell them also for you, I would be one of the first to place my order for your game and I bet alot of other boomers would also. Just a suggestion. Please let us know if you release more copies to Dave. Thanks

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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: Sherryah] #317555
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What can I say... The 10 copies we gave to Dave were free of charge, part of an advertising deal for another web site. We do not sell the game anywhere else than our official page.


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: chrissie] #317941
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I have ordered it and got it but haven't started it yet. During summer I will be able to play it (I won't go on holiday this year!). To tell you the truth I'm very impatient to it! wave


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: Taurnil] #318163
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You are going to enjoy this one Taurnil...
Pity you won't go on holiday this year though...


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: Volkana] #343662
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Just a note to inform you that the good reviews continue.

My favorite quote of the last review:

Quote:
Diamonds in the Rough has taken the development of indie adventure games to a new level of standards - which other indie developers will surely emulate for years to come


Oh and one more thing, if you care for some free copies of Diamonds in the Rough... Click here. Only hurry up because the giveaway will only last a week.


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: alkis21] #343798
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I have already bought the game, played it and enjoyed it. Plus I got an unsolicited email from Atropos Studios today asking me whether I want ANOTHER copy of DITR. Get real.

Something weird here. LOL

Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: Mystic Falls] #343807
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It's called a newsletter. If you do not wish to receive them, all you have to do is ask as there are clear instructions in the e-mail. I'm sorry if it bothered you, but

Originally Posted By: Mystic Falls
Get real.
Something weird here. LOL


I don't see the need for the insults to be honest.


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: alkis21] #344395
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No insult intended. Alkis. To be honest I was a little surprised that you kept my email, name and address on file AFTER I had paid for the game and then you sought the necessity to email me asking whether I wanted to be in a "draw" for a free game. Newsletter or not ...... you obviously still have my details and I do NOT want THAT to happen, after I buy a game.

So, no insults, just I do NOT expect to get emails after I have made a transaction with MY Credit Card which is supposedly SECURE.

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Everybody keeps the details of the clients for some time for several reasons; it's not my choice, it's the law. First of all, they're in our invoices which we have to present to the tax office. Second, someone might wait a few months and then protest to Paypal or their credit card company that they never made that transaction. We need to have a record of everything for our protection. The information we keep does not include your credit card number of course, which we never have access to in the first place.

I obviously can't tell who you are by your nickname, so can you please inform my associates that you want your e-mail to be removed from the list?


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Re: Diamonds in the rough - good or not? [Re: Mystic Falls] #344430
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Hi Mystic Falls, I received the same newsletter which clearly concludes
with:

"If you do not wish to receive newsletters by Atropos Studios, please accept
our sincere apologies for the disturbance. Send us an e-mail with the phrase
REMOVE {YOUR EMAIL}
in the subject."

I can't see what there is to get so upset about! I've found it common practise to receive 'updates' from companies I've dealt with - so I think it's a little unfair to single out one for criticism.

We need to look after our game developers & refrain from unnecssary nitpicking! smile

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