Re: A Morrowind Question
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I love shiny things [sigh] Mad the only books so far that I've found I need are three that you pick up during quests for the Mages Guild in Ald'ruhn - one of them is called Hanging Gardens the other Eggs of Time (or something like that) and the third I can't remember right off the top of my head). I haven't used them yet but Edwinna hinted to the fact that they were important and I needed someone to translate so I've been carting them around for awhile. Other than that I have either sold them to a bookstore or stacked them at the Balmora Mage's guild. Now I need to do the buy a bunch of stuff from Creeper so he has more money so he can buy my expensive stuff from me and then buy my own stuff back from him chore. Wish I could find that mudcrab guy - isn't he supposed to have more starting gold than Creeper? Madge is now level 15 and she is zooming all over the place in her spiffy Boots of Blinding Speed - 'course it's always twilight now but since the scenery in this game isn't much to look at anyway it's no big deal (except when I went into a tomb and forgot to take them off - then it was a tad hard to see the spectors and skeletons coming at me)  Madge and I are trying to finish up the Paths of Pilgrim quests. We just escorted someone to the Fields of Kummu and are now heading to Vivec to complete the last two quests there if I can figure out how to get inside the Temple that is. Made it through the Ghostgate without too much trouble. I'm right now in some Myan temple looking thing and just got through clearing out all the folk who took exception to my being in there. Now I'm gathering loot from their still, dead bodies and hauling the stuff back to The Creepman. (I have to admit I'm getting rather good at wacking baddies with my axe. I love my axe - it's so pretty)
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Re: A Morrowind Question
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Re: A Morrowind Question
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Put a goofy looking helmet on her and that's me  I love her Maggers.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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That's great Mag!  Hey Syd, the mudcrab is hard to find. If you have a water walking spell it makes it a bit easier and less dangerous to locate him. If I recall corretly you have to strike out north east from Vivec. There is a group of small islands a few clicks from Vivec and he is on one of them. Just be careful not to kill him, thinking he's just another mudcrab... Just did a little checking. Look for the ruins of Ald Sotha and then just east of that is an island that should have another ruin called Mzahnch. His island is just east of that... Here is a map of the region Ascadian Islands
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Thanks Trail - it just so happens I do have a water walking spell and have used it to island hop before. You'd think if this crab critter is a merchant he'd make himself a bit easier to find. Doesn't he know it's location, location, location - honestly  Made it into the Puzzle Canal (it's under the Palace not the Temple - no wonder I couldn't find it)  I have this neat levitation spell on me right now - couldn't figure out how I was able to climb walls until I checked - pretty cool - I need to get one of these for myself
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Hi  TM .... I'm doing fine with my newly started game and have now very nearly caught up to where I was with my original attempt  but I am having trouble with using scrolls. I have lots I would like to use and have been trying to follow your instructions (from earlier in this thread) which worked for me before. But on this play they don't appear to - or I am doing something wrong and don't realise it  I disarm myself, open my Magic Inventory and click on the scroll I want to use, but when I then R click to close the inventory, the scroll I was holding disappears too  I can raise my arms with the "R" key but have nothing to put in them  Do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong ?? And Syd .... I haven't yet been asked to "find" any books for a quest so those that I do find, and can steal, I sell off at the next place that will buy them. [All helps with the pocket money  ] Cheers. Mad 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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You're close Mad, the way you are approaching it is just a little off. You don't have to "put" anything into your arms when you are going to use a scroll. Don't select the scroll from the item inventory, select it from the magic inventory to the lower right. You just click on the scroll you want to use. Then after you close your inventory, hit "R" to raise your arms and then just click the left mouse button, that will activate the scroll. Remember scrolls are one-use-only items, so if you're going to try it out again to make sure you are doing it right you'll want to save game just before giving it a try. 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Found Mr. Mudcritter and also bought a Mark spell (already had Recall) so here's my question. I have casted (I'm absolutely positive "casted" is not a word and my 8th grade English teacher Mrs. Winmill is turning over in her grave as I type but anyway)  the Mark spell near Mr. Crab and have gone on my merry way to loot and pillage. When I Recall back to him do I have to re-Mark before I leave or is it once Marked, forever Marked until you Mark somewhere else? Also, how do I make a spell? Do I have to have any particular attributes in order to accomplish it? I played around with one but I have no idea what to do with spell points and the distance thing. All I know is when I was done playing around my spell was running me 1583 gold so I cancelled  And how do you enchant? How high does my enchant attribute have to be? Right now it's pretty low since it's a minor, minor attribute of mine. In my travels today I came across a place called Berandas up around Gnisis. I cleared out all the baddies (and found some really expensive swords called Fiend Katanas - worth 9000 gold each and an ebony axe worth 15000) and then went into another part of the building and there were these monoliths with red swirlies around them. I went up to one and it told me I didn't have an Index??? What the heck is an Index, where do I find one, and why would I need one? Other than that Madge and I are doing just swell - we're level 16 and have 126,000+ gold in our pockets. All in all it's been a pretty productive game day 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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You crack me up Syd  Spells are dependent on your skill levels. So, if you have a high skill level in Destruction it will take less magicka to cast a big spell than someone who has a lower level. Now, I'll have to pull out my old strategy guide, but I think your mysticism level also dictates spell making in some sense as well. Enchanting can be kind of complex. I usually refer folks to this link, it goes through all the "stuff" better than I can: Enchanting in Morrowind Oh, and now it sounds like your in the creepy dark part of the Morrowind story if your looking for an index (known as a Propylon Index). If you have an index you can use those rooms with the swirly red things (  ) to transport you to other rooms with swirly red things around Morrowind.... That was the way the ancient Dunmer moved around. Unfortunately the Indicies are very difficult to find...
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Hi TM  I am ashamed to say I was using the inventory for my scroll efforts  Is that pathetic or is that pathetic ??  Thank you for steering me back on to the straight and narrow  Cheers. Mad 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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The Morrowind interface isn't all that easy to figure out, so no ned to feel bad about not being able to cast spells. The first time I played I didn't use spells unless I absolutely had to.
I never actually found all of the Propylon Indices. Let me tell you, trying to travel with only a few of them activated is an excercise in frustration. With all the jumping around and trying to work out where I was going and, if necessary, trying to get BACK to try another route, it was sometimes easier just to walk (or fly).
Enchanting is helpful insofar as you can use filled Soul Gems to recharge your magic weapons. The higher your level, the more efficient you are, and the fewer Soul Gems you'll use to recharge things. But as for actually creating enchanted items, it isn't worth it unless you get to a really high level, and by the time you get to that point you'll have plenty of money to pay an Enchanter to create your magic items. It'll cost you, but it's worth it. My personal favourites are Deadric weapons that steal health. Very handy. And of course, amulets and rings and clothing with Cnstant Effect spell on them. Strength is particularly helpful for lugging around all that loot.
I've created a few trinkets and the odd decent weapon myself, but I've never managed to make a Constant Effect item. Best leave that to the experts and go to a Mage Guild.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Oh Help and more Help please. I am trying to do the Dwemer Puzzle Box quest and and stuck in this maze thing, which do I do first" The hints said Centrifuge, Weeping Heavens, Hollow Hand, I got to Hollow Hand but nowhere to go from there, this is like a maze and I don't like them. I am about to cheat the box if I can find it, bandits in here are easy, they die really fast, but I hate deadends. Hints says to use rocks or levitate, cant levitate and what rocks. This place is making me dizzy, stole all the gold but too much other stuff to carry out.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Hawka all I remember about the puzzlebox was it was on a middle or bottom shelf and it seems like I had to kill a baddie who was in the room at the time. I also seem to remember seeing him from above and jumping down because I couldn't figure out where the door to get in was. I didn't do any of the areas in any particular order, just plowed through them (which is probably why I could never find the door in). Not much help I know. Hopefully Trail or hagatha will have more info. So hagatha, all I need to do is ask one of the enchanters at the Mages Guild to enchant something for me? I have never used a soul gem before so have no idea how to go about it. I do have a weapon called Soul Drinker I've been lugging around plus the Grand Soul Gem I lifted from the Balmora Mages Guild. Just don't know what to do with either. If it's easier to just have someone enchant maybe I'll sell the Soul Drinker weapon and the gem (however I'm sure the two merchants with the most money won't buy soul gems - may just keep the thing and turn it into a pretty necklace  Guess I'll not worry about those Index thingies. Sounds like a lot more trouble than they are worth.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Keep the soul gem and Soul Drinker! Oops sorry to yell  , but you need soul gems even if you have someone enchant for you. Really good filled soul gems will cost tens of thousands of gold so keep the sword and the gem and look for more soul gems. More in a bit.... EDIT: You need to get other souls gems such as petty, common, greater... When you are in a fight use Soul Drinker as the killing blow and that will fill a soul gem. Different creatures fill different soul gems and each impart a different amount of power. If you kill a rat with Soul Drinker and all you have on you at the time is the Grand Soul gem then it's soul will move into it, which is a waste. You want to go after the biggies for Grand Soul gems. Check out the link that I posted it will have charts on what is what...If you stole that grand soul gem from Balmora you won't be able to use the enchanter there. Everytime you try she will now accuse you of stealing and the mages will try to kill you. Killing or attacking a mage means you're out of the guild so best to go somewhere else. EDIT 2: Hawk, Syd is right, the box is on a shelf. I think it's in the same room with the boss bandit.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Hi  Nice to know being dumb doesn't count against me too much  As for spells or other stuff of that nature, I haven't even considered going down those roads yet !!  [I am sure I will be just as dumb there  ] Cheers. Mad 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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I am like Mad, not ready to go there with the Soul Gems and such, but hopefully I will retain this info for later. Does the gem have to be pysically on your body, or just in inventory?
Syd, I will go back in look for the box, maybe my eyes were too tired last night. I jumped down also, didn't see any other way in. I think all the baddies are dead now cause the game let me rest in there. If I can't find my way out, I will just teleport, but I hate to leave all that stuff in there. Now I want to find that Soul Drinker. I bought a couple of swords in Suran and they work much better than my old Sparksword. I just hate to part with any weapons, at least the magic ones.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Keep the soul gem and Soul Drinker! Keeping Grand soul gem and Soul Drinker, Sir!  I do have other soul gems in my inventory - lots of them as a matter of fact. So if I say, kill a rat with the soul drinker, will the soul be smart enough to know which soul gem to occupy? As to the Grand soul gem - so far the Balmora Mages haven't caught on that I have it - they love me there. According to the head mage person - "it's an honor to be in my presence"  I will however take my business with this gem elsewhere just in case. I now have a bounty on my head. I can never step foot in Gnaar Mok again [sigh] I broke into someone's hut and took back property that wasn't his to begin with (he lied to me when I asked him about it - can you imagine???) Hawka - that puzzle box is hard to see - I almost missed it. I wish I could remember where I got 'ole Soul Drinker. I've been carting it around for a long time now. I did notice something about these speedy boots - when I take them off my speed attribute is in the red. Is there a way to get it back in the black so to speak? I just bought a Restore Speed spell to see if that will help. Hawka and Mad if either one of you join the Tribunal Temple, while you're in say Balmora or some other town that has a bookseller - buy a book called Yellow Book of Riddles, read it and jot down the answers. I'm speaking from experience here, it will save you sooooo much time and reloads.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Thanks Syd for the info, I have entered the info into my handy notebook. I don't know what I would do without it and the piles of scratch paper I fill with quest info and such. I don't toss it until everything is done. I know most of it is in my journal, but, it looks better in my own scribble.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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OK, posting between rain drops. We have another round of big storms on the way. I might need that water-walking spell too soon  Syd, what ever you kill will go in the "most" available soul gem. If you kill a rat and have a petty sould gem along with others it will fill the petty soul gem. Now, if you don't have a petty soul gem it will fill which ever gem is the closest to petty. Also, there are certain creatures that will fill grand soul gems, but will contribute a bigger charge and also be worth more gold when they fill the gem. In Balmora you might have seen the one that was filled with a "Winged Twilight" (nasty creatures) worth a good amount. Later on you'll come across some other abominations that will be worth really big bucks if you fill a gem with their soul... EDIT: Hawk, you just need the soul gem in your inventory, no need to do anything with it. 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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I still can't find the puzzle box, maybe I am in the wrong room? The w/t said it is in the Cells of Hollow Hand, I am in the room and see nothing on the shelves. But when I go out of the room I see on my map two areas that say Hollow Hand. One of the w/t's says a Boss baddie name of Crito is in there, the dead guy in the room with me is someone else. I have since walked about and when I go to the second HH room, it is something difficult. Right now I have doubled back to the large room with the rusted desk where I had to jump to get down. I can't see at all in this area in the daytime, I took all the items I could find off the shelves snd dumped them on the floor. I can't even get the puzzle box in a cheat, must be typing it wrong, but don't know if it would show up in my Journal anyway. Off to look at more help sites.
Edit here: I think I am in the wrong HH room because the w/t I looked at said if you were way at the bottom it was the wrong one. The one I was in there was some sort of steam machine in the middle. However, now I can't find my way out, of course I am lost. I see it on the map, but I am on the wrong floor. I may teleport myself outside and start over.
I finally found the exit to outside, then found my way to the correct door, I had not climbled the rocks all the way to the second floor. I now have the puzzle box and am safely back in Balmora. One day I will go back there and take all the spoils.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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Hi hawkavonpuka  You can't find the box ?? I can't even find the PLACE  So far when I have been out "scouting" I have mainly found tombs and things - where bad things abide that I'm not yet strong enough to defeat  Well, back to the search Edit :
Yeah !!!! I have just found THIS site which will help me a LOT  Cheers. Mad 
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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That puzzle box is a pain. It is on a shelf somewhere in there, that I remember. I have trouble finding it every time. And every time I do find it, I can't believe I had trouble finding it.
Souldrinker is, I believe, found in one of the ruins north west of Balmora. I wish I could be more specific. I just remember norh and west, and that it was more north than west. Along the coast somehere, I'm thinking. I found it twice. It's a handy thing. Use your long sword for the fight and just at the end, give one good stab with SD and you've got yourself a trapped soul. The flled gems a re a good source of cash -- but sell them to Creeper so you can trade them back later when you need them.
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
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I had a heck of a time finding it also, it is closer to Balmora than I thought it would be. I first found it from the end of the bridge where the conjurer is standing, I was coming back from Punabi and Sulipund and took the wrong turn. So I was standing up behind it, getting mauled by Cliffracers and when I went close, he zapped me dead. I managed to get back on track and found the road going up there. If you have the large map, look at Ft Moonmoth, behind it there is a road that you can see a bridge attached to. It is actually behind the fort and to the east.
Hagatha, I will keep an eye out for the souldrinker on my journeys, thank you. So what are good souls to trap, I assume you wouldn't want to use this on just anyone.
I sell everything to the Creeper that he will take, just in case. Should I hang on to the diamonds, rubies and emeralds I found? Creeper isn't interested.
What kind of magic spell to use?
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Re: A Morrowind Question (Spoilers)
[Re: hawkavonpuka]
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06/09/08 12:23 AM
06/09/08 12:23 AM
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hagatha
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As Trail Mystic pointed out, there are different sized Soul Gems and you should ideally try to trap the appropriately sized soul for each one.
The tiny little greenish ones are good for the lowest level beasts like cliff racers. The teardrop-shaped blue ones are good for medium monsters. The multi-faceted purple ones can take bigger souls again, like the lower-level Deadra, and you want to save your Grand Soul Gems, the big round orange ones, for the very best monsters -- Golden Saints. Small monsters just waste the better gems, so if you're trapping rats or cliff racers, make sure you have the lowest level gems.
You'll find better Soul Gems and better monsters to put in them as you level up. For that reason, I usually avoid caves and bandit lairs until I'm at a higher level - say around level 20 or so -- because that's when you start to find the really good ones in crates and barrels. But there are some you can steal in some of the mage guilds, with a moderately good Sneak ability, or an Invisibility spell. (Balmora has a couple, for instance, and there are a few in Caldera and I think there's even a couple in Ald'ruhn)
Be warned though -- an angry Golden Saint is a tough battle the first few times. Better have that health-stealing sword when you try it.
You'll find lots of gemstones in the game -- rubies, emeralds etc. If you're short of cash, sell them. Otherwise they're good alchemy ingredients. Did anyone mention Alchemy as a must-have skill? It is. Level up in Alchemy as fast as you can, because once you can make your own potions you're laughing. They're not only useful, you can make a ton of money selling them. Eventually you'll find really good equipment, but in the meantime, beg, borrow or steal what you can and get started. And you can store the equipment in your usual stash for whenever you need it. The Mage's Guild in Ald'ruhn has some equipment in the storage room, and I always keep my alchemy inredients in the chests in that room. You can also steal some equipment in the Guild in Caldera.
Last edited by hagatha; 06/09/08 12:31 AM.
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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