Personally, it would be a real pleasure to see a thread that is not sidetracked with the DRM issue. If you have a problem with it please address your concerns with the website you have issues with. I think the point has been made here ad nauseum.

Ana

I just got the game installed! I'm listening to the music. I'm comin' back home!

EDIT: I found the English language trailer again here.

Is it ok to ask if the game will come out without drm? That is what I asked.

People likely keep bringing it up because it literally is killing their ability to enjoy the genre.

Shadow -- I don't think any of us are likely to know the answer to your question. The developers are the ones who are the most likely to know.

Hi Becky
That's the same trailer with the english words that is on their site. Thanks for the link to the You Tube one though. At least I could watch it in full screen mode.

Cathy

Not to sidetrack the discussion, but to clarify a bit:

The developer might know if and when the game comes out without drm. The publisher is usually the one deciding whether or not drm will be used, and if so, what drm will be used.

On a more general note, many adventure games may only be released through download since some adventure game publishers are no more.

People buy games from Steam alle the time.... (and as a side note Culpa Innata is now half price at Steam...)

I'm happy that I can buy Culpa Innata and Yoomurjak's Ring via download through sites like Steam or The Adventure Shop.

I have a few games that I'd like to finish first (Overclocked, Darkness Within, Legend of the Crystal Valley. But I certainly want to play Yoomurjak's Ring.

In the meantime, if anyone has been able to finish the actual game (as opposed to just the demo) with a 128 MB video card (as opposed to a 256 MB video card), please let me know. I'd hate to find out near the end of the game that a 128 MB video card isn't enough for some parts of the game. On the other hand, I don't want to have to have to play it on my brother's computer (which does have a 256 MB video card) if my 128 MB card would be sufficient.

Just a couple of questions -

• Does the game require server activation? This severely limits the ability to re-play the game down the road (and may make it impossible if the servers are taken down – which happens).
• Is there a limitation on the number of activations on the same physical PC? I was recently affected by this limitation for another game and was quite surprised to learn that 3 activations was the limit (and 5 was the maximum - ever).

In as much as many of us enjoy re-playing games (and can't keep them installed forever) I'd be curious to know.

If it comes down to Activation versus DRM (considering that the price is the same for a Boxed copy) - I'll pick DRM every time.

Hi InlandAZ, as far as I could tell you don't need to be online to activate - you get a code when you order the game. I downloaded the files & then installed the game. On launching the game you have to enter a code - I copied & pasted my code to be able to continue & that was all. In the E-mail that came with the download files it states that you can download it up to 6 times. It also states that you can backup the game on CD or DVD -I'm guessing that to reinstall you may only need the code that you were given but I don't know for sure? There didn't seem to be anything 'intrusive'. Except.....

....TAC recommended a download manager which seemed to 'play havoc' with the way I like to do things on my PC. So I uninstalled it & had to go back to a recent restore point to get back to normal! I successfully downloaded the game without it!

The demo that came out some time ago wouldn't play on my system but I gave in & bought & downloaded the game anyway! It started off, as the demo did, "cannot display in this video mode" but I've found that an adjustment of refresh rate in the configuration file has done the trick.

But I do wish I had waited - I've been playing the game for an hour & I am so bored! I want to play a game not 'go on holiday' - does this game get better?

InlandAZ, like chrissie I wasn't aware of any activation taking place, but the information on The Adventure Shop "How it Works" page here does mention online activation.

It also states that you can uninstall and reinstall the game an unlimited number of times on the same PC.

Chrissie -- I found that without the download manager, the game was downloading at about 135kb/s, while with the download manager, it was downloading much, much faster. I'm now a big believer in the download manager. I don't THINK it's affected my PC at all.

After exploring the town you do encounter some serious puzzle challenges. I like the exploration part, so I guess I do play games to go on holiday. There are a couple of threads going in the Hints section right now where people are helping each other with the puzzles.

Thanks Becky, as far as the download manager goes I don't like programs that interfere with other thing that 'are none of their business' & I've completely ditched I-Tunes after 2 years for that reason. I don't like downloading full AGs & am not planning to make a habit of it so will take the 'long route' on the occasions that I do but can appreciate the benefits of a download manager if you can get used to one!

After paying quite a lot for the game I will be persevering! It's not that I don't like exploratory but at the moment I don't seem to know what I'm looking for so I'm wandering aimlessly which is not what I like quite so early on in the game. Thank you - I've seen the thread titles in hints. I think I'll probably turn up there soon!

I'll undoubtedly be seeing you there then.

Aha - thanks Becky! I won't mention the name of the other game, but I was a bit disappointed when I learned that I was limited to 3 activations on the same physical hardware (I reformat frequently).

An email took care of the immediate problem, but they did state that 5 was an absolute limit.

Imagine not being able to play the classics (because you'd already played them once or twice)

It does indeed seem strange. I think we're in a transition period where everyone's trying to figure out fair and reasonable rules, and no one wants to allow a precedent that might be an albatross in the future.

That doesn't make things any easier at the moment, though.

Personally, I feel that if you can download a game & back it up to disc you shouldn't need any more than the code you were given in the first place to activate the game, if after uninstallation you should install it in the future. That's the impression I got from this game. If my impression is wrong then I feel I have been mislead. I paid nearly £30.00 (UK) for this game & that is very expensive- it is equivalent to a store price & far more than I usually pay for UK priced boxed copies ordered online. Although I've bought a few Indies directly from developers by download, YR is the first one I've bought from TAS. I've no complaints, as once I decided not to use the download manager, it downloaded, installed & so far plays like a dream. But, I really don't want to download games - I want them on disc! Copy protection issues have nothing to do with it - I just don't want to mess around downloading them!

Errmmmm...
TAC is The Adventure Company (Dreamcatcher), not The Adventure Shop. I don't think they're related. I guess The Adventure Shop would be TAS.

But thanks for the information on not having to use the download manager, Chrissie. I'd rather not mess with another download manager. I already have the one for Big Fish.


That assumes you haven't had to change your hard drive. Where else would the game store the information that it's been activated for that computer if not on the hard drive?

Also, if you have to reformat before reinstalling Windows, I'm unsure if the activation information will be retained. Adventure Shop doesn't go into detail on how it's stored.

Silly me! I started off by wandering around 'aimlessly' looking for a place instead of thinking to use the map! Now I've 'discovered' that feature I'm finding that the story is flowing along at a good pace & am enjoying exploring the sights inbetween 'tasks'. I think it would have been a mammoth task to have had this dubbed in English but I'm hardly noticing it's in Hungarian with English subtitles. I'm off to play a bit more as I'm now completely hooked!

Rule 1: always ask the clerk at the hotel/inn desk for a map. That's great that you're making more progress!

Hello!

It's great to see how many people are playing the game and getting on quite well!

A quick news:
The developer’s „Official Strategy Guide” is now available on the Yoomurjak homepage:
http://www.yoomurjak.com/walkthru
It's not intended to be a detailed walkthrough with precise solutions – only a list of small hints that may help you think how to get forward. Hope it will be useful.

We'll be back...


the PMS/AGON Team

Thanks agondev-2! A very fun game! And it's good to see you're following the GameBoomers' progress.

Hi

Is it known whether there's a chance this game could be released on disk in the future ??

It looks so good

Cheers.

Mad

Mad, as MaG stated here, it may be the only way to get these games at this time.

Ana

Sorry !!

I completely forgot I had already asked

[Some days I just don't think it's safe to let me out of my cage ]

It's never safe to let me out of mine, Mad. That's why we come here.